Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: _kill__bill on 25 April 2006, 20:12
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Here's an idea:
Make one day a year "Screw Microsoft Day", where all participants use absolutely no ms products. Nothing, hardware, software or vaporware. No Windows, no XBox, not even Office:mac.
Now, a lot of us don't use it anyways, but this is a good way to spread the message. And it does apply to other computers. If it has to be in windows (say, a shared workstation), don't use it.
You can also do stuff like distribute Linux CDs, Mac, er, somethings, and other stuff. Get friends, family, coworkers, and that creepy bus driver in on it too. The more the merrier!
start an angry mob, storm redmond, release a virus, mehehehehe
As for the date, I figured November 20th, the day Windows 1.0 was released.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0))
Any other ideas? It's early, but I wanted to get the news out before I forgot.
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No M$ day is every day for me ... well almost every day (only possible exception is using school computers, which I have to do sometimes)
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Kubuntu?
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Start it the day Vista releases, and start a campaign wherein forum members and other anti-MS people stand outside stores selling Vista and hand out Ubuntu CDs.
After that, Nov 20 works.
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As long as it is after I finish college, as I have no choice there. I finish in 4 weeks :).
I may have to use my Handheld PC though. It will be running Linux so hopfully that will reduce the flaming i get :D.
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Flaming ... from whom ? The customers ? If they don't want it, let them buy Vi$ta ... they'll get what they deserve.
I personally don't think it's my duty to switch people to Linux ... just to show them that are alternatives. ([size=-1]I can only show you the door. You're the the one that has to walk through it. ~ [/size][size=-1]Morpheus)[/size]
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Start it the day Vista releases, and start a campaign wherein forum members and other anti-MS people stand outside stores selling Vista and hand out Ubuntu CDs.
Brilliant idea. We could give out OOo, FF, and other free programs on a CD too (note: Opera isn't free. You'd need permission from the Opera guys to redistribute their software). I think those are already on Ubuntu CDs, or will be in 6.06. Stick an Ubuntu CD into a Windows computer and the autorun thing will give you a list of free software you can install.
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That's almost doable for me (so long as it's on a weekend, my job forces me to use MS stuff), except for one thing.
My MS Natural keyboard.
I've had this thing since 1996, and it's the best keyboard I've owned. I have hand problems. I'm not going to buy another ergo keyboard for one day and I'm not going to increase my arm pain to not use MS hardware.
I don't like MS but I'll draw the line at not using my ten year old keyboard.
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Do you use QWERTY or dvorak, or something else ? ... if QWERTY, it may be contributing to your hand problems while typing. QWERTY is definitely NOT designed to be comfortable to use at all ... maybe even the contrary. I remember my hands used to hurt after typing really long papers while using QWERTY ... dvorak is a whole lot better, it's actually designed to be comfortable in the layout (as opposed to ergo) ... of course the down side is that pretty much every keyboard everywhere is QWERTY ... well, you can't have it all.
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Brilliant idea. We could give out OOo, FF, and other free programs on a CD too (note: Opera isn't free. You'd need permission from the Opera guys to redistribute their software). I think those are already on Ubuntu CDs, or will be in 6.06. Stick an Ubuntu CD into a Windows computer and the autorun thing will give you a list of free software you can install.
OOo and Firefox were included in Ubuntu as of Hoary (5.04 i think). I doubt we'd get permission to redistribute Opera, and even if we did, they'd never allow Ubuntu to preinstall it or make it available through repositories. I'm not seeing a problem, though, as the majority of the Windows users we'd be converting already are familiar with, if not comfortable with, Firefox.
The real question here is would Canonical support us with the mass quantities of CDs needed to pull this off?
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i meant flaming from you lot on here for using an M$ device.
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The real question here is would Canonical support us with the mass quantities of CDs needed to pull this off?
Theres only one way to find out...
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If it's happening the day Vista releases then Ubuntu Edgy Eft should be out (scheduled for October IIRC), and maybe even the release (or a few releases if things keep going the way they're going) after that.
(BTW, the next release of Ubuntu will be 6.06 (can't think of the codename ATM) and will be out in June. After that it'll be Edgy Eft, which the main guy (Mark Shuttleworth I think his name is) has said he's not placing any restrictions on what goes in it. There'll be some experimental stuff like Xgl (the X server built on OpenGL, or something. Well, it can do some pretty cool wobbly window effects and stuff anyhow.) and virtualisation (or at least, there might/can be, if they bother, which they probably will), maybe that stuff will be option though.).
And er, does it have to be Ubuntu? I suppose it does actually, seeing as if we want CDs en masse we could get them off cannonical. SuSE (only OpenSuSE?) might be another option (could ask Novell), and it's supposed to be good too.
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And er, does it have to be Ubuntu?
That's why I started the post Linux for newbies (n00bs) ... I don't particularly like Ubuntu, but whatever distro you choose it must be (very) user-friendly ... and it should probably be a live CD, just in case people have problems installing to HDD or dual-booting ... I've had both of these problems, so they are not uncommon.
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OOo and Firefox were included in Ubuntu as of Hoary (5.04 i think)The real question here is would Canonical support us with the mass quantities of CDs needed to pull this off?
Forget that let's publicize this FIRST!!!! HERE WE GO!!!!
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I say ubuntu CDs, it's free to just order an assload of them off of the shipit system https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ (https://shipit.ubuntu.com/) , you'll wanna do it 2 months in advance tho, since they take for-fuckin'-ever to get shipped, but you would get nice, profesional looking discs in little cardboard sleves that have the actual install CD and the live CD, the live one has things like FF and OO.o for windows in there if they pop it in.
I ordered an assload of them once and placed them in the bestbuys and circuit city stores. They should come with a little display box thats says free take me.
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It could be like Software Freedom Day (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/), except nothing to do with software freedom.
We could get sponsers and stuff (like the SFD people have).
We gotta get a little up-to-date article to print about MS, and give that away too.
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I say ubuntu CDs, it's free to just order an assload of them off of the shipit system https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ (https://shipit.ubuntu.com/) , you'll wanna do it 2 months in advance tho, since they take for-fuckin'-ever to get shipped, but you would get nice, profesional looking discs in little cardboard sleves that have the actual install CD and the live CD, the live one has things like FF and OO.o for windows in there if they pop it in.
I ordered an assload of them once and placed them in the bestbuys and circuit city stores. They should come with a little display box thats says free take me.
They'll probably freak out if they see a bunch of us ordering thousands of CDs all at once.
I'd probably have to order three months in advance anyway, since they're so fucking slow.
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SuSE 9.1 was my favortie distro for a while, then I moved to Fedora and liked that, now im on SuSE 10.0. Id say SuSE has an easier way to admininstrate things the ubuntu, plus I know alot of people who would like SuSE's graphical installer over Ubuntus, but SuSE 10.0 is 5 disks :rolleyes:
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SuSE 9.1 was my favortie distro for a while, then I moved to Fedora and liked that, now im on SuSE 10.0. Id say SuSE has an easier way to admininstrate things the ubuntu, plus I know alot of people who would like SuSE's graphical installer over Ubuntus, but SuSE 10.0 is 5 disks :rolleyes:
Surely most of them are unrequired package CDs?
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Either that or it might've even beaten the record for the most bloated OS ever.
I agree about Ubuntu, it isn't an easy to use OS, oh sorry it's easy to use but administrating it does take some getting used to - I have a fair way to go on that part.
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Either that or it might've even beaten the record for the most bloated OS ever.
Mac OS X Tiger is one DVD. Vista will be one DVD.
One DVD ~= 4.7GB.
One CD ~= 700MB.
Four CDs ~= 2.8GB.
2.8GB < 4.7GB =>
Four CDs < One DVD =>
SuSE 10.0 < ('contains less bloat than') Vista,Tiger.
Debian comes in I think 9 CDs, it's not bloated at all.
My only point is that I wouldn't measure OS bloat by the amount of CDs/DVDs you CAN get with it on it (especially when the extra CDs are full of packages for people with slower internet connections, often the case with GNU/Linux distributions).
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Tiger doesn't even fill the DVD. I doubt Vista will either.
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Surely most of them are unrequired package CDs?
Yes, the OS actually seems quite nice and smooth with Gnome instead of KDE, KDE made it clunky and slow. Debian has 14 CDs last i checked
EDIT: Heres a screen shot of the admin panel http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/amdfan12/Screenshot-1.png (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/amdfan12/Screenshot-1.png)
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Just ordered ubuntu cds.
Remember, November 20th!
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EDIT: Heres a screen shot of the admin panel http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/amdfan12/Screenshot-1.png (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/amdfan12/Screenshot-1.png)
Holy shit, beagle and Xen integrated, I must try SUSE.
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I missed this thread the first time around because I was overseas without internet - thanks for the bump.
I wonder how many Ubuntu cds I can burn before Vista hits stores? Probably a damn near infinite number, considering Microsoft's release schedule issues.
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We need to agree on a date for this.
I say Nov. 20.
If we boycott Vista the day it comes out, how can we criticize it?
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When people go to BestBuy to buy the new Windows for $250, they might be awful glad to see somebody handing out something better for free right in front of the store.
And Windows wasn't that bad when it first came out. I mean, it sucked, but the idea of a gui desktop for PC hardware was a pretty good one. Maybe the day Windows 94 was supposed to come out would be a better anti-Microsoft holiday.
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Sorry I can't do 20th November as I'll be at work and I don't plan to take the day off as holiday - I'm not that sad.
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Go to work anyways. Bring in a laptop and do your work on that, say it's a protest against tyrannical capitalists.
If there can be a day supporting gays where the protesters say nothing, there can be a day where noone uses Microsoft.
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If I do anything ... I wanna boycott Vi$ta the day it comes out, that would be best day to do it ... cut into M$'s fuckin profits a little bit
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If I do anything ... I wanna boycott Vi$ta the day it comes out, that would be best day to do it ... cut into M$'s fuckin profits a little bit
Boycotting Vista the day it comes out will accomplish nothing. Very few people will buy it on the first day, anyways, and us boycotting it would do nothing.
It would actually hurt us, because we'd be unable to accurately critique it. All our knowledge would be based on second- or third-hand accounts.
I'm not getting Vista at all, anyways.
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Boycotting Vista the day it comes out will accomplish nothing. Very few people will buy it on the first day, anyways, and us boycotting it would do nothing.
It would actually hurt us, because we'd be unable to accurately critique it. All our knowledge would be based on second- or third-hand accounts.
I'm not getting Vista at all, anyways.
Wait a second, you circular-logic dumbass. You don't want to diss Vista on release day because you won't have had accurate time to try it out. And yet you're not planning to try it out! That's retarded. I see two possibilities here:
1. If you aren't planning on using Vista for personal/political/philosophical reasons, that's what you tell people - the actual details of the product are insignificant.
2. If you aren't planning on using it because it sucks, well how the fuck do you know?
I think your whole plan needs to be reconsidered.
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I said I personally will never get it. I might try it out on other computers.
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So you're saying we don't have enough dirt on Vi$ta to put it down on release day ? I don't think that's the point ... the point is to spread free OSs to all, or at least to get them to try something different (and probably a whole lot better) than M$ Window$ and Vi$ta. Handing out some CDs of an easy to use, stable, usable distro is the perfect plan, I think.
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Actually, handing out free Ubuntu cds on Vista release day is just about the most productive idea that has ever been suggested on this forum.
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Wait a second, you circular-logic dumbass. You don't want to diss Vista on release day because you won't have had accurate time to try it out. And yet you're not planning to try it out! That's retarded. I see two possibilities here:
1. If you aren't planning on using Vista for personal/political/philosophical reasons, that's what you tell people - the actual details of the product are insignificant.
2. If you aren't planning on using it because it sucks, well how the fuck do you know?
I think your whole plan needs to be reconsidered.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Worker201, deny it if you like, you are a TEXAN! You kill me!
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Just got a pack of Ubuntu cds to give away.
Remember, November 20th!
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Go to work anyways. Bring in a laptop and do your work on that,
I can't do that because our striuct security policy won't allow me to do that.
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I'm going to be at a Vista "Anti-Release Party" with my old Macs, showing them off to people who don't know jack about where computers came from.
I think it'll be a big eye-opener for a lot of these dullards to see OMG LOOK-A-DAT ITS TEH WINDOZE!!!!1 on a 128K machine with an 8MHz processor.
Fuck teh Vista.