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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Kintaro on 14 August 2008, 19:18

Title: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 14 August 2008, 19:18
I challenge you to tell me of anything this operating system does behind my back. It doesn't crash, it is more stable than Linux by all standards of the word. I don't have a TPM, so no you can dismiss the stories of DRM wiping grub and all those nasties. I want to hear something valid to do with things I cannot control on my own computer.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Orethrius on 15 August 2008, 04:36
I challenge you to tell me of anything this operating system does behind my back. It doesn't crash, it is more stable than Linux by all standards of the word. I don't have a TPM, so no you can dismiss the stories of DRM wiping grub and all those nasties. I want to hear something valid to do with things I cannot control on my own computer.

Damn, it has to be system-related?  You mean we can't mention how you've been successfully suckered into supporting an artificial tiered-pricing system by dropping $400 on the Ultimate version because the options that would save you money are intentionally crippled?  Dammit!  ;)
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 15 August 2008, 07:32
I'm using a cracked version of Ultimate. I didn't pay for it, don't go into the irony of a Randroid-Pirate please.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: worker201 on 15 August 2008, 07:36
That's really more like hypocricy than irony.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 15 August 2008, 07:58
Yeah. Though considering I like it so much I'll have every reason to buy it, and you are allowed to use pirate copies for 60 days legally, not allowed to crack them, but I did anyway. I'm sure Microsoft will send out some ingenious update that breaks that crack and I'll finally probably buy a copy.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 16 August 2008, 16:38
Wouldn't that genuine advantage crap catch that? It is sent in auto-update form.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 16 August 2008, 17:38
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I'm sure Microsoft will send out some ingenious update that breaks that crack and I'll finally probably buy a copy.

I just said that genius.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 17 August 2008, 00:30
You can get around that. I usually do. (MINES NOT PIRATED) I just don't like the problems it causes.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Orethrius on 17 August 2008, 08:56
Yeah. Though considering I like it so much I'll have every reason to buy it, and you are allowed to use pirate copies for 60 days legally, not allowed to crack them, but I did anyway. I'm sure Microsoft will send out some ingenious update that breaks that crack and I'll finally probably buy a copy.

There I go confusing you with Jack again.  DMCA covers that here, and I'd imagine the Berne Convention has some pretty strong disincentives to that behaviour.  Then again, Australia didn't exactly reject the Berne Convention (http://www.copyrightaid.co.uk/copyright_information/berne_convention_signatories), did it?  Perhaps my understanding of the interpretation is lax and deserves some correction.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 17 August 2008, 09:09
I'm saying Microsoft don't seem to care for 60 days. You don't get asked to Activate for about that long. Every Windows product as far as I know is legally shareware nowadays.

The Australian Government is far too busy helping aboriginals gang rape children, locking out the cities past 2am, and appointing judges that give suspended sentences to sick fucks that gang rape retarded girls to worry about piracy.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 17 August 2008, 15:44
Odd because the trial period for Windows is usually 30 days before it starts locking itself down. Maybe its different in the US.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 17 August 2008, 16:31
I might be wrong, I heard 60 days. It's the same Ultimate as everywhere else, including the US, though. I'm using FC9 at the moment to get some stuff on Gnutella. Windows has a serious lack of Gnutella clients that arn't featureless. The new version of shareaza is faggotry designed for morons and won't even tell me what PORT it listens on so I can set the shitty thing up.

So there is some software missing on Windows. I built gtk-gnutella under cygwin fine but the X server for Windows keeps crashing and I'll have to update it.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: 7031 on 17 August 2008, 17:37
I might be wrong, I heard 60 days. It's the same Ultimate as everywhere else, including the US, though. I'm using FC9 at the moment to get some stuff on Gnutella. Windows has a serious lack of Gnutella clients that arn't featureless. The new version of shareaza is faggotry designed for morons and won't even tell me what PORT it listens on so I can set the shitty thing up.
What about Frostwire? Last time I checked that was Gnutella.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Kintaro on 17 August 2008, 18:35
I might be wrong, I heard 60 days. It's the same Ultimate as everywhere else, including the US, though. I'm using FC9 at the moment to get some stuff on Gnutella. Windows has a serious lack of Gnutella clients that arn't featureless. The new version of shareaza is faggotry designed for morons and won't even tell me what PORT it listens on so I can set the shitty thing up.
What about Frostwire? Last time I checked that was Gnutella.

Platform: Java

No thanks.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: bob_v5 on 7 December 2008, 03:59
hi. first post on here. I used vista for a short time on a friends machine. I don't remember the spec but it was a much nicer machine than the desktop I type this on. My machine is fast. My friends was slow. I have to repeat, my friends machine is significantly more powerful. His has two core's and an extra gig of ram. Not a big fan of microsoft but I use xp anyway, just because it is convieniant. While i am intrested to see windows 7(I like the name even if the OS sucks) I see no purpose to vista.

Kintaro-- you say you like vista, but you wont use java. I also dislike java, because it is inefficient and slow. I dislike vista for the same reason. You mention that vista is more stable. My xp machine is solid. It crashes in only 2 situations.
1- When using the 3d part of the graphics card it will occasionaly lock up. I can't be certain, but I suspect this is due to the water damage from when my cooling system leaked. It was fine before the leak. (side note, if you have a water damaged component, try cleaning it with distilled water and a toothbrush. I give no promise, but it took my graphics card from "fucked" to "kinda dodgy")
2-When I do something stupid. The most recent was when I installed 2 different driver's for my hacked playstaion pad. That was dumb. It was my fault (I was drunk) and not a fault of the os.

I would consider the poor performance a reason not to love vista, so I ask you a counter question. Can you tell me a reason I should love vista? go ahead, TRY!

Additional ramble-- I don't wish to change from xp. It was only a few months before vista that I got xp running the way I wanted. Although I will be forced to upgrade at some point to keep my system compatible, I have no reason to do so other than the fact that I know eventually software will not be available for xp. It was the same when going from 98 to xp. I admit 98 was unstable, but after using my mum's computer last week (win 98), the only thing that bugged me was the fact that firefox wouldn't install. Because of this my mum is considering buying a many-gigahertz, dual core monster of a machine just to check her email. While this cuts down on the tech support calls I receive, it is power wasting, land fill - filling stupidity. I perhaps should install linux for her, but after she looked on her physical desk when I told her to double click "my computer" on the "desktop" I feel it might be a bad plan.

Sorry if the rant was too much, and hello people!

MOD EDIT:
Replaced ph**cked with the propper spelling. Hope you don't mind, I'm not having a go, this place used to be called FuckMicrosoft.com  LOL
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: worker201 on 7 December 2008, 06:12
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, there is as yet no software that runs in Vista that does not also run in XP.  Whether through compatibility modes or version forking, XP will probably be with us for a long time.  Not wishing to upgrade at this time is perfectly normal.  The businesses and universities I am familiar with haven't migrated yet.  In fact, static non-adoption has been a problem for Microsoft for quite some time now, as this article from 1998 proves:
http://news.cnet.com/Windows-95-remains-most-popular-operating-system/2100-1040_3-228773.html (http://news.cnet.com/Windows-95-remains-most-popular-operating-system/2100-1040_3-228773.html)

Yer mum should get a Mac.  They're much more intuitive, graphically self-consistent, and generally require less abstract logic, and they're so easy to use that most people don't need any help.

Welcome to Stop-Microsoft.org.  Enjoy your stay, and don't bother censoring your own profanity - we don't mind cursing at all.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 7 December 2008, 13:23
Hi and welcome to the forum.

Yes, we actually encourage the use of wonderful words such fuck here.:D

Kintaro was a troll and has been banned so don't pay any attention to his posts.

How did you find us by the way?
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: bob_v5 on 7 December 2008, 15:56
I found this site by accident. I was researching battery chargers and stumbled across this site somehow.
There is no software I know of for vista but not xp, my point was that there will be someday. I remember software that was "xp only" that ran on 98 if you applied a hack to remove the lock...
As for my mum getting a mac, that seems just as bad. All she uses it for is occasional internet/email.

"took my graphics card from "fucked" to "kinda dodgy"" Ha, someone edited my post to put the swearing back, never thought that would happen! Its just automatic for me to censor stuff, some of the boards I go on it would not be welcome, and I have no wish to offend people that might have useful information.

Fuck micro$haft!

edit- Startrek blue screen, funny!
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 9 December 2008, 00:04
It was me who did the edit. :D

We don't normally edit posts but I just thought it would be fun and harmless on this occasion.

Have you ever used a non-MS OS?

Here's the full-sized Star Trek BSOD.
(http://london.flirtbox.co.uk/images/data_bsod.gif)
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: bob_v5 on 9 December 2008, 01:47
I used a mac for a while when I was at school. Didn't like it, but that was a long time ago. I have messed around with various linux distros, but never found it suitable for my main pc. I used slackware on a borrowed pc for about a year, I was at uni and my pc was fucked. I was using a friends old pc and it was too slow for xp. Although I appreciated the amount of control it gave me, I got annoyed at the difficulty of installing software. "Dependancy hell" Is the correct term I think. I understand that other linux's are easier, but, I recently tried ubuntu on my current system, It was no faster than xp, and with much poorer software support.
I find myself hypocritical sometimes. I hate microsoft, but I use there stuff anyway. I think the linux developer guys should come up with some sort of universal instalation method. I have made a few programs in C(not pretending to be sum ub3r 1337 haxor though), and I feel that if I struggle to do it, the "average user" has no chance. In my defence, if I knew how to use pirate XP I probably would. Not that I would ever admit it in a public place if I was using such a dirty, illegal thing......
What os do you guys use? I find it funny that I imagine a lot of people on "stop-microsoft.org" are using microsoft software!
ps, I also used commodore 64 basic :)
pps, the missus has one of them crime programs on, and there playing NIN, yay!

ppps
"You fucking barsted's with all your fucking 1024x768 images that take fucking 5 miniutes to load on dialup... Webaster give a moderater permissions of this fucking "The Lounge" Thread..  Downloading can cost money... Now fucking fix all these up someone or i may just block the fucking domains.

What if i was in arachne 4 dos in 320x240/4 colors on an old palm top or somthing you fucking cunts.

bob the pic poster will he fix YES HE FUCKING WILL YOU BARSTED!"
From our friend kintaro! He seemed somewhat sensible in this thread, know I see why he was banned..

Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: worker201 on 9 December 2008, 12:28
Myself, I have 2 computers at the moment.  One runs Windows XP SP3, which I only use for one program, which is required for school.  Everything else is done on the Mac running 10.5 Leopard.  I have lots of experience with Slackware and Fedora, but don't currently have Linux installed at home.

Regarding the "universal installation method", a lot of people have wanted something like that.  But I think it is anathema to the Linux concept.  Within the Linux framework, people are encouraged to solve the same problem multiple times, because there's no standards org that says "We'll use this one".  So some guy invented rpm, and thought that was the ultimate be-all-end-all package manager.  Then some other guy came up with deb, and he thought that was the ultimate be-all-end-all package manager.  Which is right?  Both.  Or neither, if you like adding Slack tgz packages.  It's a crazy situation, but to enforce some kind of centralized standard would be to interfere with the independence of each individual developer.  That's the price you pay for the total freedom of Linux.

I used to think Macs sucked too, and they seriously did back in the days before OSX.  But nowdays, there's nothing out there that compares.  Every time I open the lid, I am impressed with what this computer is capable of.  When you consider the extensibility of BootCamp and MacPorts, the sky truly is the limit.
Title: Re: Make me not love Vista, go ahead, TRY
Post by: _ZeroBeta on 17 April 2009, 02:19
Yeah. Though considering I like it so much I'll have every reason to buy it, and you are allowed to use pirate copies for 60 days legally, not allowed to crack them, but I did anyway. I'm sure Microsoft will send out some ingenious update that breaks that crack and I'll finally probably buy a copy.

I thought the limit was 30 days?