Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: lazygamer on 13 September 2002, 01:21
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Ok I still don't support X-box, but aren't they still making games for it? I like to watch a TV show called "The electric playground", and they cover X-box, Gamecube, PS2, PS1 and PC. They haven't quit covering the X-box, so it can't be dead yet. I saw a review for a game that was released AUG 2002 actually. I also have seen the odd preview hear and there. Ya ya don't be fooled etc. What im getting at, is that X-box might have some cool X-box only games that won't be released for 6 to 12 months. IIRC correctly, Dreamforge had 2 X-box games in the works...
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Originally posted by lazygamer:
Ok I still don't support X-box, but aren't they still making games for it? I like to watch a TV show called "The electric playground", and they cover X-box, Gamecube, PS2, PS1 and PC. They haven't quit covering the X-box, so it can't be dead yet. I saw a review for a game that was released AUG 2002 actually. I also have seen the odd preview hear and there. Ya ya don't be fooled etc. What im getting at, is that X-box might have some cool X-box only games that won't be released for 6 to 12 months. IIRC correctly, Dreamforge had 2 X-box games in the works...
why would it be dead :confused: It is still a new (ish) console. The PS2 has been out longer and it's not dead.
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Well, according to the MES, it has lost most of it's developer support. Then there's also what you see when you go to the video store and compare the X-box section to the other game sections. So there is solid evidence here. Still, we don't really know if 5 kick ass X-box only games will show up 12 months from now.
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Dead. I highly doubt that.
While I'm only talking statistics in Australia, Gamecube holds the lowest market share in the console area and with PS2 at the top and XBOX in the middle, it is fairly unlikely.
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xbox is losing japanese developer support. and most of the people who play consoles like japanese games. stuff from developers like square, konami, sega. the only way that M$ is getting japanese developers to make games for them, is by paying out ludicrously large sums of money for exclusive licenses.
one of the big issues is that microsoft has too many games exclusive to its console that should be appearing on pc. they can't quite define the difference between a console gamer, and a pc gamer.
another issue is that the japanese console market is the largest in the world. and they don't like an american company invading their territory.
and now i leave you with this final thought:
in its first week of release, the xbox sold half as many as Sega's dreamcast...
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the xbox cant die because M$ will just keep pouring money into it to keep it alive
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I think its dead. Already being called one of M$'s biggest blunders. It will never catch on in Japan, never. The only US games that will ever make it in Nippon are from Blizzard.
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Dead. I highly doubt that.
While I'm only talking statistics in Australia, Gamecube holds the lowest market share in the console area and with PS2 at the top and XBOX in the middle, it is fairly unlikely.
Where did you get that information from? Im from Australia and Iam certain that is not the case.
Even if it was in the middle of the market share in 'Australia', who gives a shit. Australia is one of the smallest markets in the world when it comes to games.
The XGrit (puke) is going down the shitter.
[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: ShigeruMiyamoto ]
[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: ShigeruMiyamoto ]
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Microsoft X-Box the console with a thousand uses!
They're great as hockey pucks for people with bad eyesight. Much larger target to focus on.
You can use it as a base for GI Joe figurines and blow it up with that stick of dynamite you stole from grandpa when he was going to bomb that old stump in the back yard.
They make great starter logs for warm winter fires.
Use it as a handy retractible cupholder.
Use it as a stopblock for your boat or other light trailer.
Hang it in the living room as a stylish wall decoration.
Install a mod chip and Linux and you have an affordable server appliance!
Remove the "Fritz" chip and mail it to Senator Hollings along with a nasty letter typed on your Linux-powered X-box telling him that he's not welcome in the United States anymore.
Use your Linux-powered X-box to do some l337 h4x0ring and hit riaa.com with a DoS attack.
Develop software that violates the DMCA and distribute it on your X-box.
Do drive-by X-box throwings at Hollywood execs.
Wow! I'll bet you never know how great the Microsoft X-box can make your world!
Steal one today and make Bill Gates angry!
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Difference between a PC and Console gamer? There is no difference, the vast majority of PC only or Console only gamers could pick up each other's system and like alot of games on it.
Some people are cat people, some people are dog people, some people are PC people, some people are console people. Sadly, the whole MS domination of the PC makes it a sour deal(upgrade cycle, shitty OS etc.) What helps even out the PC as a great platform is the ease with which you can pirate games, and some other things about it. It's alot more hassle to pirate console games.
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Originally posted by cozzer:
Dead. I highly doubt that.
While I'm only talking statistics in Australia, Gamecube holds the lowest market share in the console area and with PS2 at the top and XBOX in the middle, it is fairly unlikely.
Yes, PS2 Rules, I like Nintendo, but im going to stick with PS, when the PS1 started dieing out they released the PS2, and when it starts going down they will release the PS3 and so on... Microsoft cant stop sony in Austrialia... Dont know about the rest of the worlds status. DONT GET X-BOX, when your in a hole stop digging deeper.
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Originally posted by ShigeruMiyamoto:
Where did you get that information from? Im from Australia and Iam certain that is not the case.
Even if it was in the middle of the market share in 'Australia', who gives a shit. Australia is one of the smallest markets in the world when it comes to games.
The XGrit (puke) is going down the shitter.
[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: ShigeruMiyamoto ]
[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: ShigeruMiyamoto ]
Well for a start i do, since i live there. Who give's a fuck about japan :D
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Who gives a fuck about Japan you say????
Everyone who owns a console should give a fuck about Japan cause if it werent for them we wouldnt be playing these awesome consoles today.
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yeah, but he's just responding in kind since you insulted his country.
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Well... you can insult my country any time you want...
I fucking hate the Netherlands because it sucks!
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Calum...Im an Australian....I didnt insult my country. I just made a point that Australia means nothing in the console market...its the truth.
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well whatever. i will only say it is misleading (or was, as i notice it has conveniently changed) that you put tokyo as your location in your profile.
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What the hell? I never heard about any of this. I'm not really a dedicated gamer, but i have my sources, and no where did i hear that x-box was dead or even losing support. This shows how much mind control m$ has over us, even me. The last news i heard about x-box was that rare software had left nintendo to work for m$.
And anyway, microsoft will find a way to bypass this, even if it means drowning puppies or something. Anyone hear about its new game clones of diablo and age of empires? i smell monopolization.
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Sadly, XBOX is NOT dead. Sega has Panzer Dragoon Orta in the pipeline, splinter cell is coming out soon, halo2 isnt too far away, konami has signed on as a developer and has already made silent hill 2, plus metal gear solid 2: substance is almost complete, featuring a bunch of new missions as well as VR training.
last but not least, we have rare. yes, rare is now a M$-exclusive developer. banjo-kazooie, conker, and yes PERFECT DARK are all in development for the xbox. don't expect it to die anytime soon - gamers get the systems that have the games they want. Kids will see perfect dark and banjo-kazooie and say "hey mommy we need to get an XBOX."
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Ya, but all of that 3rd party support is comming out now. Most of those titles are for the other systems as well. MGS2 already came out for PS2 ages ago.
Nah, I don't think this boost (no doubt due to heavy M$ handouts) will help X-box sales to much.
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yes, mgs2 came out a long time ago for ps2. yes, i played it through and enjoyed it, but i wondered where the vr missions were. looks like they saved them for the xbox. this discourages me, the reason that i bought a ps2 was FOR mgs2.
rare is now microsoft exclusive, and the fact that one of the best games ever (panzer dragoon by sega) is being added to the mix makes me believe that most hardcore action gamers will see the xbox as the only way to go. this is how it looks to me:
ps2 - RPGs and GTA
xbox - FPSs (first person shooters) (halo, halo2, perfect dark, etc)
gamecube - a little bit of everrything
now perfect dark is my biggest concern. it seems like everyone who had n64 (and thats a LOT of ppl) thinks perfect dark is the *BEST GAME EVER.* they thought that about goldeneye, then when goldeneye's sequel (Perfect dark) came out, they abandoned goldeneye for the new game. when they hear that perfect dark 2 is coming out, they will do *ANYTHING* to play it. anything includes buyin an xbox. as an added bonus, they will then be able to play halo.
note that i am a hardcore gamer, i prefer ps2 and i never really went nuts over goldeneye or perfect dark.
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Originally posted by Macman / Bob:
What the hell? I never heard about any of this. I'm not really a dedicated gamer, but i have my sources, and no where did i hear that x-box was dead or even losing support.
well i work in a video game store, and the news were hearing is that M$ is definately losing voluntary japanese support.
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It looks like it might pull out of the Australian market as well by account of this peice of info: http://news.com.com/2100-1040-962797.html?tag=fd_top_3 (http://news.com.com/2100-1040-962797.html?tag=fd_top_3)
They are such fucking cry babies.
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Now, if we could just get them to pull out of the U.S. we'll be all set!
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Come on Calum, dont you remember me? I use to come here a while back. I was the one who brought up the topic about how Micro$soft are getting to people early and how all schools now use Windows.
When I edited my message I didnt edit where I come from....and anyway it was edited on the 16th of October which was before you posted your message (october 19th).
If you dont believe me, ask me some things about Australia that only an Australian would know.
Anyway man, no hard feelings. (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:
It looks like it might pull out of the Australian market as well by account of this peice of info: http://news.com.com/2100-1040-962797.html?tag=fd_top_3 (http://news.com.com/2100-1040-962797.html?tag=fd_top_3)
They are such fucking cry babies.
Ballmer is so full of shit. A very small percentage of people install mod chips, 1) because it requires technical know how, 2) because you can waste the system if you screw up the soldering and 3) because you void the warranty. Hence, MS is NOT going to withdraw the XBOX from Australia because even if the mod chips are legal, very few of it's customers will actually use them.
This is more MS scare tactics.