Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: Interscope on 29 May 2002, 01:29
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I just got infected with a virus. Don't you just love that? And it's usefull to have linux and windoez on your comp even if windoez is your primary os. Just for the simple fact of crashing/virus/MS "updates"
BTW, it isn't my fault I got it, blame my sister. She so stupid that she can't tell the diffrence between .mp3 and .mp3.vbs
And i'm planning on switching too FreeBSD. I use mandrake now, am fairly happy with it, but I wanna try freebsd. The daemon looks cool... hehe.
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Your running Windows without some kind of anti virus? Thats like walking into a gay bar with your pants down.
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if you want to not pay for antivirus software, you can get AVG antivirus for totally free. Still, you'd be better just using linux for the internet, it doesn't even bloody need antivirus software...
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it doesn't even bloody need antivirus software
Yes, because no one would waste their time writing a virus for such an unpopular OS.
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BTW, it isn't my fault I got it, blame my sister. She so stupid that she can't tell the diffrence between .mp3 and .mp3.vbs
In some way, shape or form, user ignorance always plays a part in catching or spreading viruses. Letting a PC-illiterate user behind ANY system is like putting a drunken monkey in a car and starting the engine for it. The bottom line is that if people would learn how to use their damn systems this kind of crap wouldn't happen.
Also, everyone moving to MacOS and Linux isn't the answer. Yes, it will be a short term fix, but as soon as one arises as the clear dominant platform, guess what OS the script kiddies will re-focus their efforts on...
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Originally posted by Windows XP user 0987866278378:
Yes, because no one would waste their time writing a virus for such an unpopular OS
You must be ignorant as well as stupid. Otherwise you wouldn't have been coming back for more. A question for you: Who would even bother write a virus in C or C++? On the contrary, writing a virus in Visual Basic is childs game. Hell, you can even learn how to do it :D . On top of that you seem to ignore GNU/Linux's whole architecture as an Operating System.Even if there were a virus in Linux, it wouldn't compromise the security of your system if one hadn't logged in as root! Please, before coming here talking nonsense, try to read as much as you can about Linux.
Oh, I forgot something. There are virus scanners for Linux. Yeah, like Amavis for example which searches for Windoze virii (in case Linux is beeing used as a server or router :D )
One last thing. I wouldn't call Linux unpopular since it holds already more than 30% of the server market. If you still think Linux is unpopular have a look at what M$ thinks of such an unpopular OS (http://microsoft.com/windows2000/migrate/default.asp). Now, fuck off :D
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Why don't you squeeze the doughnuts out of your ears and get some sense into that dormant organ you keep hidden inside that thick skull of yours? Did it ever occur to you that it is easier to write a virus in visual basic rather than C++ because basic is a much easier programming language? Do you realize that you don't need to be root to have all the files in your home directory, where all the documents and local program configurations are, infected or wiped out? I've already posted an article on this forum describing how deluded the notion held by Mac and Linux users is that their operating systems are more somehow more secure than Windows. There are and have been huge gaping security holes in BSD and Linux, but people don't hear about it like they do when one of Microsoft's operating systems has a problem. And, actually, since no one has any official quality control over Linux like Microsoft does, and due to the fact that very few people are actively trying to discover Linux security flaws compared to the legions attempting to hack Windows every day, it is very likely that Linux has far more security holes in it than Windows does, as Windows has undergone much more rigorous scrutiny. Also, I keep my system up to date, run a virus program and a decent firewall, and I've never had a problem.
PS Speaking of easy to write, I could e-mail you a shell script with the single command rm -Rf ~ and you'd be done for.
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well done, you get the prize. EVERYTHING in that post was actually wrong! i am utterly stunned! i have never seen such concentrated moronity here so far! and i've been here since it all started in november! You could almost exactly write a post saying the exact opposite of everything you just said, and you would be right on the money! There is no point me responding to anything you post from now on. In fact the only responses you will ever get from me from now on will be completely devoid of substance. You have ceased to be a rational being in my opinion. Good luck in the world. Let me know when you can successfully distinguish between your elbow and your arse!
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In fact the only responses you will ever get from me from now on will be completely devoid of substance.
You mean they had substance before?
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oh ha. pass me a needle i think my sides have burst. what hilarity.
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You seem to be completely hopeless. Since you were asking for some strong arguments, this (http://www.jimmo.com/Linux-NT_Debate/) should help.What an arsehole :D
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Oh, have a look at this thread (http://forums.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi_bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000030) too you pathetic Windoze drone. and about that shell script that would crash my system: Not only did you mistype it but it doesn't work anymore, sorry :D .
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I do know this: A stupid user on Linux can do just as much damage as a stupid user on Windows.
Same goes for this: A smart user in Windows can be just as safe as a smart user in Linux.
And hoojchoons, your second link leads me to a:
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Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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My fault. I was to eager to answer to this asshole's silly arguments that I mistyped the URL. Here it goes (http://forums.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000030).
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A blast from the recent past :D . I think that VoidMain's words describe it better.
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Good choice with freebsd I think :cool:
BTW, if you wait a few (days?) FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE is going to be released.
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Do you realize that you don't need to be root to have all the files in your home directory, where all the documents and local program configurations are, infected or wiped out?
I'm sorry but wiping a WHOLE system is more devastating than wiping ONE USER.
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There are and have been huge gaping security holes in BSD and Linux, but people don't hear about it like they do when one of Microsoft's operating systems has a problem. And, actually, since no one has any official quality control over Linux like Microsoft does, and due to the fact that very few people are actively trying to discover Linux security flaws compared to the legions attempting to hack Windows every day,...
Wrong again. This is total opinion. I think you have it backwards. Legions try to break into *nix operating systems because they actually have the source code (and its funny because fixes are released hours after the os team is made aware, unlike the DAYS or more you have to wait for a MicroS fix). I think you should accompany your argument with real life statistics, rather than information taken from a poll in a microsoft chat-room/webpage. Thats limited thinking for a limited user.
[ May 30, 2002: Message edited by: dwar ]
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originally posted by the moron:
Do you realize that you don't need to be root to have all the files in your home directory, where all the documents and local program configurations are, infected or wiped out?
idiot.
Try humouring me for a minut. just do this: boot into DOS, type "C:" <enter>, then type "deltree /y *" <enter>.
NOW TELL ME, AT WHAT POINT DURING THAT OPERATION DID YOU GET ASKED FOR YOUR ADMINISTRATOR PASSWORD? HMMM?
dumbass...
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originally posted by dwar:
Legions try to break into *nix operating systems because they actually have the source code (and its funny because fixes are released hours after the os team is made aware, unlike the DAYS or more you have to wait for a MicroS fix).
Ha! days indeed! take for instance that "C:/Con/Con" kernal bug, that is resident in all copies of windows 95, 98 and 98se. It allows the simple viewing of a webpage using internet explorer to crash your computer instantly. I found out afterwards that there is a good chance that your entire filesystem, and all the data on it has a good chance of being erased. As i say, this bug has been present since 1995, and was not even removed for windows 98 or 98se, but on top of that, the patch was only made available at long last in 2000! that's a wait of five years for something as fucking dangerous (not to mention easy to exploit) as this to be fixed. And even then, Microsoft have hardly done their best to make people aware of the fact that they even need to get a patch.
Of course all this is moot because WHEN you need to reinstall your copy of windows, after it shits its own bed AGAIN, you will probably forget to apply the patch anyway and be back at square one.
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Thats funny. They take IIS vulnerabilities (1-3 week fixes) more seriously than OS CORE vulnerabilities (5 years).
Talk about security holes, IIS is like swiss cheese.