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Title: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Lead Head on 11 August 2005, 23:15
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Manufacturers seeking to release peripherals for the Xbox 360 will have to pay royalties to Microsoft on each unit sold, with a new security system on the console preventing the connection of unlicensed devices. As a result, only Microsoft-authorised joypads, steering wheels and other such devices will be released, according to a abridged version of a new contract between the software giant and peripheral maker Mad Catz which was released as part of a Mad Catz financial filiing this week.

I think that is typical MS behavior. I wonder how many  peripherals will be made for the 360?, full story here (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10728)
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 11 August 2005, 23:21
Hopefuly this will put people off buying an Xbox 369 because it will lack 3rd party peripherals. I really don't se how they can benefit from this tactic.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: worker201 on 11 August 2005, 23:24
Unless it gets cracked in the first week like the last Xbox did...
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Jenda on 12 August 2005, 00:17
I will never, ever, touch that piece of crap. I would like to say I will NEVER use any MS SW anymore, but I will first have to try out Wine - and that's waiting for Nextra to connect me to the internet via ADSL. Dialup just sucks sooo bad...
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: skyman8081 on 12 August 2005, 01:04
Mad Catz controllers will break if you look at them funny.  trufax.

I'm kinda glad, because 99.95% of third party controllers are utter dog-shit.  The 1st party ones are better.

Hell, the original, big, design is the Model M of controllers.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Orethrius on 12 August 2005, 02:14
Quote from: skyman8081
Hell, the original, big, design is the Model M of controllers.

The original Jaguar controller is easier to hold than The Duke.  Trufax.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: WMD on 12 August 2005, 02:38
Quote from: skyman8081
Hell, the original SNES design is the Model M of controllers.

Fixed.  Trufax.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: noob on 13 August 2005, 00:59
i was gunna buy the 360. M$ just lost a sale, from somone who playes a lot of games. who will now buy the ps3 instead. the 360 was M$'s only product that i was going to buy because i wanted it, not what games were on it. now they can get screwed.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: hm_murdock on 13 August 2005, 10:13
Yes, because this licensing thing is going to affect all those third party peripherals you want so much. Like...

Like...

Damn. I can't think of anything you might need to get to go with your VIDEO GAME MACHINE.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: noob on 13 August 2005, 19:29
what does an official mem card for xbox cost, and a cheaper un official one cost
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Lead Head on 13 August 2005, 19:31
$327 and $24 respectfully
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: worker201 on 14 August 2005, 02:21
Why would you need a memory card for an Xbox?  They come with hard drives.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: piratePenguin on 14 August 2005, 02:23
Quote from: worker201
Why would you need a memory card for an Xbox? They come with hard drives.
For using your saved (game) data on another xbox, I guess.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: worker201 on 14 August 2005, 02:27
Fucking gamerz are nuts.  +$300 to play your saved character at your friend's house?  For that kind of money, you could buy a second Xbox.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: skyman8081 on 14 August 2005, 03:06
Wow...  that was an obvious lie, and you fell for it...

Official ones are $24.99, 3rd party ones are cheaper.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Pathos on 14 August 2005, 04:14
But microsoft do put a lot of money and research into bringing these consoles out. They don't make as much money out of the consoles once the prices drop, the profits really come from the peripherals and games. Yes they do make a lot of profit out of it  buy why should microsoft have to let third party companies nick their profit? These companies don't bear any of the risk involved if they design their product after the console is released and the market is stable.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Orethrius on 14 August 2005, 06:01
Quote from: Pathos
But microsoft do put a lot of money and research into bringing these consoles out. They don't make as much money out of the consoles once the prices drop, the profits really come from the peripherals and games. Yes they do make a lot of profit out of it buy why should microsoft have to let third party companies nick their profit? These companies don't bear any of the risk involved if they design their product after the console is released and the market is stable.

You DO realize that makes about as much sense as letting Microsoft kill off all the floppy, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, and hard disk drive manufacturers because it "nicks their profits"?  Bear in mind that the XBox is a miracle of marketing: not ONE hardware component is actually theirs.  So why give them the right to kill off third-party vendors?
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: DBX_5 on 14 August 2005, 06:10
Quote from: Orethrius
not ONE hardware component is actually theirs. So why give them the right to kill off third-party vendors?

 [OFFTOPIC]does the casing count?[/OFFTOPIC]
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Orethrius on 14 August 2005, 06:13
Quote from: DBX_5
[OFFTOPIC]does the casing count?[/OFFTOPIC]

[offtopic]Probably a rebadged Antec or something.  :D[/offtopic]
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Pathos on 15 August 2005, 02:06
The fact that Microsoft did not produce any of the hardware is irrelevant. They produced the system, why can't they decide which hardware is compatible with it. If you buy their hardware you put put up with it. No one thought it was illegal that the N64 couldn't use CD's...did they want CD manufacturers to lose profits?

I don't think anyone would have complained if the original PS1 had the same sort of thing.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: DBX_5 on 15 August 2005, 02:29
this is another one of those 'blame microsoft' situations . It doesnt really matter if they didnt make any of the hardware themselves. When you buy an OEM PC, they just get parts from everyone else and slap on their casing and logo. Samething with Xbox.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: adiment on 15 August 2005, 03:45
Quote from: skyman8081
Mad Catz controllers will break if you look at them funny.  trufax.

So true... :eek::eek:
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: WMD on 15 August 2005, 04:06
Quote from: Pathos
They produced the system, why can't they decide which hardware is compatible with it.  If you buy their hardware you put put up with it.

Hardware you buy is yours.  You don't license it like software.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Kintaro on 15 August 2005, 09:48
Quote from: WMD
Hardware you buy is yours.  You don't license it like software.

You might say that, some say you don't licence software, that it is the wrong thing to do. However it certainly doesn't look like you don't with hardware and software, it looks to me like you do what ever the hell you want.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: skyman8081 on 15 August 2005, 11:00
Quote from: Pathos
I don't think anyone would have complained if the original PS1 had the same sort of thing.
Of course, Sony is nixing ALL third party peripherals.  Which means that you are stuck with the boomerang design for it.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: MarathoN on 15 August 2005, 13:47
Why be so negative about the "boomerang" controllers?

They look pretty nice to me, if they're comfortable then I really couldn't care how they look. ;)
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: skyman8081 on 15 August 2005, 18:33
Quote from: MarathoN
Why be so negative about the "boomerang" controllers?

They look pretty nice to me, if they're comfortable then I really couldn't care how they look. ;)
It's revenge really.

I was a fan of the xbox from when it was first announced. I had to take all kinds of goading from sony fanboys who though that the Duke controller was too big for their tiny, fragile hands.

What goes around comes around.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: MarathoN on 15 August 2005, 18:56
Fair enough, but I've tried the Duke controller, I have small hands, and it was a nightmare!
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: noob on 15 August 2005, 20:41
if i buy a pc from the shop down the road, one he made. he used parts from other companies. but he doesnt force me to buy a seahgate hdd as a second one, a qtec router and a pinnacle tv card. i usually buy parts that are slightly cheaper because i dont mind if somthing looks crap, or has a bit of swarf hanging out of a screw hole. if it does the job, its fine. ok i did buy a dead nice case. but it was cheap.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: Pathos on 17 August 2005, 14:21
Its worth spending a bit more money on a case because thats what everyone sees every day.

Plus it probably boosts resale value.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: MarathoN on 17 August 2005, 18:08
I just use a white box, I couldn't care what other people think about my computer by looking at it.

It performs well when you use it, and that's what matters. ;)
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: DBX_5 on 17 August 2005, 21:01
That post is approval material, Marathon.
Title: Re: Microsoft plans to charge license fee for Xbox 360 peripherals
Post by: MarathoN on 18 August 2005, 01:05
So you approve of it then? ;)