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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: adiment on 23 November 2005, 19:26

Title: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: adiment on 23 November 2005, 19:26
"Jsgongwon, one of our forum members, reported that his newly bought Xbox 360 keeps crashing while playing Project Gotham Racing 3 in single player mode. He's playing with the default settings, and apparently his Xbox crashes even before the end of the first lap. Crashes on Xbox Live and on startup occur too. He included screenshots of the crashed Xbox 360 and a video of the crash.

A quick look on our forums seems to indicate he's not the only one. Several of our members seems to get crashing 360s. It doesn't seem to be related to a specific game, as we get reports of the Xbox 360 crashing with several games. And it's not all the same Error-number either (E79, E74, E64, real crashes, ...)."


http://www.dvhardware.net/article8338.html (http://www.dvhardware.net/article8338.html)

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/...yEHasmrPqu.php (http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEFkZkkkyEHasmrPqu.php)

(http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/error/pgr3_crashing_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Refalm on 23 November 2005, 19:30
This is exactly why you need to hire full-time beta testers for your next-gen console :)

Movie of Xbox 360 crashing:
http://www.illhostit.com/files/8000149352218433/3260052289.xvid.avi (XviD)
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: noob on 23 November 2005, 20:32
OMG they suck ass.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 23 November 2005, 22:19
YYYYYeeeeeeeeesssssssssss .... another home run for M$ :thumbup:

Although $ony is full of shit ... the PS3 will probably kick ass ... or you can wait for the Nintendo Revolution, whenever that comes out
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: worker201 on 23 November 2005, 22:28
Or you can go outside and get some air, while it is still free.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 23 November 2005, 22:46
The air here ain't so good ... smells like pollution ... and burnt tires ... so it's probably healthier to play games than inhale the air :D
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Dark_Me on 24 November 2005, 01:11
A console crashing? A computer sure, but not a console. There made for only one purpose, to play games. Computers crash because of conflics, consoles are to single minded to crash easily.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: worker201 on 24 November 2005, 02:14
Except you forget that Microsoft is too single-minded to construct anything properly.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: WMD on 24 November 2005, 03:51
It's like they can't get away from this crashing stuff, ever. :D

What luck.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Laukev7 on 24 November 2005, 05:19
Well, that's gonna make some nice new screenshots for your BSOD collection, WMD. ;)
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Dark_Me on 24 November 2005, 05:22
I think they took the BSOD out of XP so it probably won't be in the 360. It's now "illegal error" or some other BS which requires you to restart.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: WMD on 24 November 2005, 06:43
Quote from: Dark_Me
I think they took the BSOD out of XP

No.

Quote from: Dark_Me
so it probably won't be in the 360. It's now "illegal error" or some other BS which requires you to restart.

It's not in the 360 anyway.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Jack2000 on 24 November 2005, 14:54
yo ahahah
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Lead Head on 24 November 2005, 16:55
Quote from: Dark_Me
A console crashing? A computer sure, but not a console. There made for only one purpose, to play games. Computers crash because of conflics, consoles are to single minded to crash easily.

The original xbox crashed also, it ran on windows 2000
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Refalm on 24 November 2005, 19:48
Whatever Windows is running on it (my guess it's 2003), they would have to port it from x86-64 to PPC.
Maybe this is the source of trouble?
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: MarathoN on 24 November 2005, 20:05
Erm, I've never seen an original Xbox crash, I think Refalm is probably right, the problems were caused by Microsoft trying to port their OS to PPC
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: noob on 24 November 2005, 23:05
i crashed my orig xbox. it;s the only M$ thing i actually like.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: worker201 on 25 November 2005, 01:11
Well, if an OS isn't portable, that means it does too much work.  That's one of Microsoft's problems - they have programs doing what the OS should be doing, and OS doing what programs should be doing.  See for instance the arguments against Windows technically being an OS at all, for more details on these issues.

I thought it was kinda funny to see the responses to the Xbox 360.  At Slashdot, 73% (as of yesterday) said they would never own one - that's terrible market share for a system trying to make money off of game licensing.  At some other site, it was really sad how many people were saying "Well, it's Microsoft, of course it is going to crash".  And at some list of comments one young kid said "I like Microsoft, but I hate their bugs".  Just saying.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: WMD on 25 November 2005, 01:51
It's probably not a porting problem.  Windows NT ran on PPC a decade ago.

Some say it's a heat problem.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Lead Head on 25 November 2005, 03:54
I heard Heat Problems and PSU problems. I also heard the MS said the 360 has a 1 in 20 failure rate
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: TB on 26 November 2005, 05:29
Quote from: MarathoN
Erm, I've never seen an original Xbox crash, I think Refalm is probably right, the problems were caused by Microsoft trying to port their OS to PPC



The very first time I played an Xbox at my local EB all those years ago, the damn thing crashed on me.....well technically it locked up....but still, it didn't give me a stellar impression of Microsoft's first foray into consoles. And I do recall seeing a screenshot of the Xbox "Green Screen of Death (tm)" (GSOD). Although I believe that was from the Xbox SDK.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: piratePenguin on 27 November 2005, 18:14
http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/11/27/158237.shtml?tid=211&tid=1
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Kintaro on 29 November 2005, 17:31
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyone who buys an XBox is a fucking moron. The XBox crashing is just bad karma from God to say "You idiot, you should have waited for the PS3 that has a processor that is roughly 7x more powerful than that of the XBox."
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Kintaro on 29 November 2005, 17:33
I should also mention the obvious, which is that Microsoft fat heads (CEOs/should be stabbed) probably rushed the release and hence grossly decreased code quality just to get it out shortly before Christmas in every nation that celebrates it, because they know IDIOTS will buy it anyway.
Title: Re: Xbox360 Crashes?
Post by: Refalm on 29 November 2005, 18:36
Quote from: Kintaro
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyone who buys an XBox is a fucking moron. The XBox crashing is just bad karma from God to say "You idiot, you should have waited for the PS3 that has a processor that is roughly 7x more powerful than that of the XBox."

And all those morons buying first batch machines. That's only a good idea if you're rich (even then it's kinda silly), so you can buy another one (or more).