Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Lars on 22 March 2006, 01:13
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I am a late convert. Bill-the-Gates crushed OS/2. I worked around it. He published version after version of bug-ridden slop and I made a living off of it. From C to C++ through COM, COM+, .NET, whatever. The theme is the same: low-quality, obfuscated software with a high rate of updates. Today I finally hit the wall.
I got hacked. It manifested on an e-commerce site. Info was being sent to some Russian hole ostensibly to facilitate stealing my payment info. The Russian site disappeared which left me with an odd error about not finding this heretofore unknown site. Of course I was pissed. I thought that I had exceptional computer hygene.
Here is the part that sent me over. The first thing I did was look for a rogue plug-in. Plug-ins never got the attention that ActiveX problems did. The UI showed nothing unusual but anything plugged-in I disabled, silently cursing the lack of removal functionality. Still the hack remained: my pages were being parsed and edited before display. Finally I got out p-explorer and found some POS dll running under iexplore.exe. It was a plug-in. Imagine my surprise. It turns out that one can mark plug-ins so that they won't display in the IE interface (as with most other plug-in venues: VB, Office, etc.).
Need I ask why an interface to manage plug-ins would allow anyone to hide one from me? Especially when 'hide' usually means simply increase the effort to manage them? The 'advanced' option to hide it is given to the hackers and crackers and jackers and corproate weenies, but the 'advanced' option to know whats running on my own system is to be denied me?
I still remember the line from "Pirates of Silicon Valley" where Jobs says to Gates "our stuff is better" and he quips in reply "it won't matter". I curse Bill the Gates. I wouldn't piss on Bill Gates if his heart were on fire.
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1st step tward changing OSs completly? If an idiot like me can switch OSs anyone can.
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Hi Lars. I'm sorry you got hacked. I hope you were able to cancel your credit cards in time.
Welcome to the forums and software written by people who don't want to screw you.
:)
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I still remember the line from "Pirates of Silicon Valley" where Jobs says to Gates "our stuff is better" and he quips in reply "it won't matter". I curse Bill the Gates. I wouldn't piss on Bill Gates if his heart were on fire.
Sadly ... Bill was right ... that evil little bastard. Anyway, welcome. :)
P.S. This reminds me ... in the post where I said I got hacked on FC4 ... I was just paranoid. It seems the number of users gets stuck at 2 if you keep the terminal open long enough ... sorry, I'm a bit paranoid sometimes.
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Switching OSes is really hard you end up with a lot of cds that are useleass and a bunch of stuff unsupported that you used before. I still have a windows computer and I'm still switching to macintosh. I ahve a even biger issue swtching to mac. because all my software and hardware is renderd useless. I have so much x86 based hardware it is really hard onthe switch. I have decided I will switch all except my game computer because of the lack of games on mac. but iTunes is much better then media player. The only thing mac needs is a thing like iPlay or iGame like microsoft has direct x they should have a version of games that is similar to direct x making games easy to make in a all in one sort of thing.
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Why would all you hardware not work? Almost everything you have should work with a Mac.
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Yeah, I don't see too much of a problem ... unless you mean you got few games on Mac.
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Which isn't that true. There are quite a lot of games for Macs, just not as many as for Windows (why do people always say PC? Apples are PC's as well.)
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The only thing mac needs is a thing like iPlay or iGame like microsoft has direct x they should have a version of games that is similar to direct x making games easy to make in a all in one sort of thing.
OpenGL + Core Audio. There's a few other things DirectX does, although, I'm not sure how often they are used.
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Which isn't that true. There are quite a lot of games for Macs, just not as many as for Windows (why do people always say PC? Apples are PC's as well.)
I don't quite understand this either. I always thought that pc ment personal comptuer not windows when the definition changed I really don't know.
You are right there are quite a few but still there are more for windows. One of my favorite games Battlefeild 2 is only for windows and halo that is for both NFS is only windows. anyway you get my point.
OpenGL + Core Audio. There's a few other things DirectX does, although, I'm not sure how often they are used.
Yeh but see the problem with that is directx is a all in one so in programming you just need to know direct x. Open gl is the graphics core audio is the audio etc. but that isn't all in one so you need to know each indiviual thing.
Why would all you hardware not work? Almost everything you have should work with a Mac
It isn't a matter of the hardware working in the mac the problem come to the software. Drivers and software that are required to run the hardware. Like example I have a ati radion 9200se unsupported by mac because there is no drivers for it. and then my ATI TV WONDER VE unsupported by mac because no drivers for it. Out of frustration i took my dvd decoder out of my p2 to see if I could get that g3 to at least play dvds. I was sure it would work because it didn't need drivers to work just a dvd software well i couldn't find the cable to link the decoder the the ati rage 128.
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Well, actually ... to delve into the realm of stupidity and ignorance that permeates my current locale ... most people here think:
Window$ = Computer
Really ... I'm not fucking kidding ... which is kinda sad :( ... :fu: stupid, ignorant people, they deserve everything they get.
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Yeh but see the problem with that is directx is a all in one so in programming you just need to know direct x. Open gl is the graphics core audio is the audio etc. but that isn't all in one so you need to know each indiviual thing.
I'm sure DirectX has a lot of differences between the sections. You wouldn't use a video function to use audio, would you?
It isn't a matter of the hardware working in the mac the problem come to the software. Drivers and software that are required to run the hardware. Like example I have a ati radion 9200se unsupported by mac because there is no drivers for it. and then my ATI TV WONDER VE unsupported by mac because no drivers for it. Out of frustration i took my dvd decoder out of my p2 to see if I could get that g3 to at least play dvds. I was sure it would work because it didn't need drivers to work just a dvd software well i couldn't find the cable to link the decoder the the ati rage 128.
Which G3 Mac is this? Most are capable of watching DVDs via accelleration provided by the video drivers. The Rage 128 is included. (And, Macs need different video cards because they need a different video BIOS.)
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g3 powermac 350mhz
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Hmm. With OS X's bundled DVD app, you should be able to watch DVDs fine with a G3/350 and a Rage 128. What version of it do you have? Version 3.0+ is required to work in the G3.
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I could have sworn that the older macs used a different signaling system with the AGP port or something, so x86 compatible cards couldnt work
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Yeh but see the problem with that is directx is a all in one so in programming you just need to know direct x. Open gl is the graphics core audio is the audio etc. but that isn't all in one so you need to know each indiviual thing.
You really don't know what directx is, do you?
DirectX is a name for a collection of Microsoft's proprietary API's. A collection. That includes API's for sound (directsound) API's for 3d sound (directsound3d), APIs for game controllers (directinput, including the mouse and the keyboard), API's for 2D graphics (DirectDraw), and multiple API's for dealing with 3d video (Direct3D 3,4,6,7,8,9 and soon 10).
There's no "all in one" about it, except that they are all distributed together and they are all owned by Microsoft.
Knowing one of these API's (directinput, for example) doesn't mean you know another one (directsound, for example). Knowing Direct3D 6 certainly doesn't mean you know Direct3d 9, even though they come together in the same package!
There is nothing more difficult about using OpenGL in place of Direct3D and continuing to use Directinput and Directsound.
If Apple could make OpenGL proprietary, there would be nothing to prevent them from calling OpenGL + Core Audio + other crap something like iPlay.
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I could have sworn that the older macs used a different signaling system with the AGP port or something, so x86 compatible cards couldnt work
I believe the older Mac AGP cards needed a different video BIOS. I remember reading about how to flash 3dfx board's video BIOS so it would work on a Mac and that was the only difference between the Mac version and the PC version.
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If you are switching to Mac, get Lil'Snitch software firewall. You'll need it. OS X is chatty and some of the apps will call home unless you change the OS defaults. I use it to block Quicktime and Real Player, except when I specifically want to let them out.
Virtual PC with Win98SE or XP works fine for programs that don't involve sound or motion pictures. VPC 6 works on G4's but VPC 7 is necessary if you get a G5.
I have TMPGEnc Plus running under Virtual 98SE on my eMac to recode Windows media player files if necessary into something that will play in VLC. VLC will recode audio mp3's into mp4's if you need to drop and drag a movie with mp3 audio into Toast Titanium. Toast is a must. Version 6 can be had for less than $50. Don't waste your money ($100 extra) for the Jam license, unless you need it for legal reasons.
VLC media player, Wiretap (the free version) Firefox, Audacity, MPlayer, Hexedit and Hexedit Fat, iGetter download manager (not free), OpenOffice for Mac 2.0 (doesn't need a startup script anymore), SiteSucker, MacGimp, AbiWord, SnapNDrag (screen capture) are all very useful programs for OS X.
You won't miss IE or Windows.
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...Finally I got out p-explorer and found some POS dll running under iexplore.exe. It was a plug-in. Imagine my surprise. It turns out that one can mark plug-ins so that they won't display in the IE interface (as with most other plug-in venues: VB, Office, etc.)...
Sounds like you were browsing the net as root.
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I just committed the ultimate sin... and installed IE 6.0sp1 on Crossover Office. :( I'm so pissed... why do poker clients require fucking IE to work properly?
On a lighter note, that fixed my Partypoker problems from the other thread. Thankfully, IE doesn't know how to set itself as the Linux default browser.
Can someone PM me quickie instructions on making Opera set itself as Debian's/KDE's default browser? I'm getting a little angry about links from IMs opening in Konqueror when I've got a perfectly good Opera window already open.
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Can someone PM me quickie instructions on making Opera set itself as Debian's/KDE's default browser?
Why PM, is there any reason why this can't be discussed here, is it aginst the rules?
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Why PM, is there any reason why this can't be discussed here, is it aginst the rules?
I didn't want to clutter the thread with more unrelated garbage.
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I didn't want to clutter the thread with more unrelated garbage.
I'm having the exact same problem, so it's okay by me :)
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I just committed the ultimate sin... and installed IE 6.0sp1 on Crossover Office. :( I'm so pissed... why do poker clients require fucking IE to work properly?
On a lighter note, that fixed my Partypoker problems from the other thread. Thankfully, IE doesn't know how to set itself as the Linux default browser.
Hmmm ... why would party poker require IE ? Technically Opera can identify itself as IE, so it should work ... that's strange.
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Party Poker loads ActiveX. If I want to listen to Yahoo online music, I have the same problem (on a Mac). Either I use IE or run VPC Win98. If you are on a pc, Firefox now has a replacement for ActiveX, so in theory you can do the plugin, fake your user agent string and go anywhere IE is 'required'.
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Making Firefox use ActiveX ... I dunno about that ... but it would be better than running IE on Linux ... a mortal sin for sure
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Making Firefox use ActiveX ... I dunno about that ... but it would be better than running IE on Linux ... a mortal sin for sure
Making FF use ActiveX would be opening it up to all the ActiveX vulnerabilities of MSIE. ActiveX blows.
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Of course it does ... but if you wanna play pocker it beats actually using IE.
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duh
"would be opening it up to all the ActiveX vulnerabilities of MSIE."
do not think so ...
:) FF does not manage BHO's and other stuff the same way as MSIE...
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I would hope Firefox implements ActiveX proberly and runs the controls in a proper little sand box totally isolatied from the system otherwise it's just as shit as IE.
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Maybe there is another ActiveX plugin out there than the one I'm thinking about. The one I am thinking about was for the Windows version of FF. It was an interface to the ActiveX stuff written in Windows, not a clean implementation of ActiveX. I looked at it and said "what's the point?"
Even then, I would still not trust it. ActiveX was never designed to be sandboxed and secure.