Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Mastertech on 22 June 2006, 02:30
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This thread is pretty ridiculous but I feel like I need to provide this information.
First if you go to Folder Options in Windows Explorer (2000 or XP), View Settings and select "Show hidden files and folders" then uncheck "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)". You can now browse to the Temporary Internet Files folder. If you select the + sign on the left of the folder it will expand and show the Content.IE5 folder and again to show all the sub folders.
Cleaning this is rather easy, you have two simple solutions:
(SuperClean is not a free program these are)
1. CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds.aspx) - Get the Slim or Basic builds (No Yahoo Toolbar). This program will clean all your Internet Temp Files and the Index.dat upon reboot. This will only clean up the Temp Files ect... for the account you are logged on to. To fully clean the Index.dat you have to have admin rights on the account.
Settings:
-Uncheck Old Prefetch Data (Deleting these will slow down Windows Boot and Application Launch times)
-Go to Options, Advanced, uncheck "Only delete files in Windows Temp folders older than 48 hours"
-If you want to securely delete these files go to Options, Settings, Secure Deletion, select "Secure file Deletion (Slower)" and select the number of passes you want.
2. CleanUp! (http://www.stevengould.org/software/cleanup/) - Is a good program to clean multi-Windows user accounts at the same time.
Settings:
-Options Uncheck Prefetch Files (Deleting these will slow down Windows Boot and Application Launch times)
Now it is possible to secretly hide files on your HD using Rootkits. You can detect these using RootkitRevealer (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.html). Viruses and complex Malware can use this technology.
Here is another program for paranoid people about their privacy;
MRU Blaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/mrublaster.html) - is a program made to do one large task - detect and clean MRU (most recently used) lists on your computer. These MRU lists contain information such as the names and/or locations of the last files you have accessed. They are located ALL OVER your registry, and for almost ANY file type. By looking at these MRU lists, someone could determine what files you opened/saved/looked at, what their file names were, and much more! (And, in many cases, the lists are displayed in drop-down menus automatically.)
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We have kinda verified that they don't exist on later versions of Windows.
Also does the fact that you need all these different apps signify anything about Windows to you.?
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We have kinda verified that they don't exist on later versions of Windows. Also does the fact that you need all these different apps signify anything about Windows to you.?
You don't need all those apps. I simply provided them for people that are interested. They each serve different functions. CCleaner and Cleanup! are similiar but CCleaner only cleans the account you are logged onto and Cleanup does all the accounts at once. CCleaner has other options too like a registry cleaner.
Rootkits are a problem on all Operating Systems. And the MRUBlaster program is for anyone paranoid about privacy.
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i know it is highly unfashionable these days to say this, but the answer is staring you in the face, install linux, or a BSD, or get a mac. if you are not using windows, you are definitely 100% free of windows hidden files, for good.
and you NEVER hear of these hidden files in ANY other operating system do you? there must be a good reason for that.
Never let unfashionability get in the way of the truth.
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This thread is pretty ridiculous but I feel like I need to provide this information.
It is generally accepted on this forum that the "really hidden files" article is rubbish, most of us would like to see it removed and replaced with something better but Refalm (the admin of this site) doesn't actually have ftp access so it can't be done, it's a shame because the main page is now so outdated that it takes away our credibility. Many people here have offered to write new articles and I hope that one day the webmaster returns and allows Refalm to put them up on the front page.
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it isn't "rubbish" and the "most of us" you refer to who think it *is* "rubbish" are idiots.
take offence if you like, but i agree with annorax about the truth.
i myself have seen and deleted hidden files from all of the locations mentioned in the hidden files article in both windows 98 and windows me, which were the most recent and popular home user windows versions at the time i read the article originally.
the article may be outdated, but that is 100% different from "rubbish".
so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Yeah whatever. There are no super secret folders in Windows that you cannot access. I've tested this on Windows 98, ME, 2000 and XP ect...
Otherwise please provide documented reproduceable proof of your claims.
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Trolled posts and replies moron'ed
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it isn't "rubbish" and the "most of us" you refer to who think it *is* "rubbish" are idiots.
Whatever, but tell me seriously that you don't believe the conspiracy theory bullshit? Because if you do then you are an idiot.
The article talks about hidden files which may be true, but it's worded like MS have hidden them in a bid to keep track of people when the truth is it's they are not displayed because they are part of the cache indexing system and the reason why they aren't deleted is due to poor programming. Fair enough when it was origionally written it may've looked that way but it's been proved otherwise, so it's now outdated and obsolete.
By the way, wouldn't it have been more sensible to contact MS about this article before posting it?
If they didn't respond or lied about it then we would've had a case but if they'd given an explanation then it shouldn't have been posted in the first place.
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amazing what a good troll can do ...
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amazing what a good troll can do ...
I am sorry but you are an absolute idiot. Did you even READ my initial reply? Or do you see my name and jump to conclusions?
Wow only on Microsucks.com could a legitimate reply to a FUD post with detailed explanations and solutions be moved here.
I mean what is the agenda with moving this? So more people can believe the bullshit in the post this was cut from?
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I must agree. Why was this section cut out?
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I don't know it must be my "trolling" post that includes detailed information on how to clean these "hidden" folders. Oh and I tried linking here off the original again but that got deleted too. Someone please read my post above but remove my name and tell me if it would have been removed otherwise. I don't think so. This is definitely the first time I've ever posted instructional information EVER to a post ANYWHERE and had it cut off. I guess there is a first time for everything. :nothappy:
When someone here gets a clue as to what is going on please let me know. :rolleyes:
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1) There was a flame war brewing.
2) The post to the link here contained a personel insult towards a mod.
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It's a stupid idea to insult mods, idiot.
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Considering you have two red squares for rep, i wouldnt doubt it
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I agree with Mastertech here, there is no reason why your posts should've been moroned.
By the way what's your reputation?
I don't think we've ever had someone with two red squares before!
Well done, you've made a new MES record!
And it isn't your oppinions either, we've had Windows lovers with positive repuations before.
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I agree with Mastertech here, there is no reason why your posts should've been moroned.
By the way what's your reputation?
I don't think we've ever had someone with two red squares before!
Well done, you've made a new MES record!
And it isn't your oppinions either, we've had Windows lovers with positive repuations before.
He has THREE!!
"Mastertech is a Microsoft spy" lol.
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EDIT: After reading this thread, I don't really see any problem with it, but I'm not allowed to merge threads...
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He has THREE!!
"Mastertech is a Microsoft spy" lol.
Good ... I was hoping it'd get up to three at least. He's a troll and completely full of shit.
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Wait I have 3 red squares? Oh thats cute. I see how it works here everyone can insult and personally attack me but if I say anything some genius moderator just starts adding warnings on? Everyone can see how completely ridiculous this whole situation is. :rolleyes:
I am going to repeat every personal attack someone says to me and see how fast the warnings add up.
H_TeXMeX_H you are troll and completely full of shit.
"piratePenguin is a Microsoft spy" lol.
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Do you actually believe in the arguments you make ?
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Yes I believe in logic and reason.
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I see how it works here everyone can insult and personally attack me but if I say anything some genius moderator just starts adding warnings on?
That's a Myth, stop spreading misinformation.
Any user can give either positive or negative rep another user. You get enough positive reps you get a green square, enough negative reps you get a red square.
It has nothing to do with the moderators.
If you wanna rep someone, there's a button on the bottom left of their posts. Please rep me negative - I can't wait to see how little rep points it takes away (I've noticed that people with more rep points have a huger effect when repping), hell maybe it'll give me some points!
Also whenever you hilight somebody's rep-squares a tooltip comes up - for you it says "Mastertech is a Microsoft spy!", that's why I said that.
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Yes I believe in logic and reason.
Glad to hear it - this means we'll be seeing less of you?
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Glad to hear it - this means we'll be seeing less of you?
I thought I had alot of friends here?
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I thought I had alot of friends here?
How's the schizophrenia these days?
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Whatever, but tell me seriously that you don't believe the conspiracy theory bullshit? Because if you do then you are an idiot.
go and fuck yourself.
and interesting that you and good old mastertech have exactly the same response to my posts.
The article talks about hidden files which may be true, but it's worded like MS have hidden them in a bid to keep track of people when the truth is it's they are not displayed because they are part of the cache indexing system and the reason why they aren't deleted is due to poor programming. Fair enough when it was origionally written it may've looked that way but it's been proved otherwise, so it's now outdated and obsolete.
again, all you are doing is agreeing with me, so calling me an idiot was totally out of line, and i feel justified in my above response as a result.
By the way, wouldn't it have been more sensible to contact MS about this article before posting it?
i didn't post it.
If they didn't respond or lied about it then we would've had a case but if they'd given an explanation then it shouldn't have been posted in the first place.
what you mean we, white man?
seriously though, i didn't make any comments about the motivations etc, so all you pillocks with too much personal insecurity can get your knickers in a twist as much as you like, all i said was that the hidden files were in windows 98 and ME exactly where i couldn't see them with hidden files turned off, just like the article says, way back when the article was new. so what if it was written by a slightly foaming at the mouth fanatic? those were different days. some of you were still in primary school no doubt!
and to be honest i think you need to write to the webmaster of this site if you want to have influence over the site content, not just bad mouth me because i happen to respond to your post in a way you don't like.
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And he posted an XP myths article from Mastertech ... it might be enough for a conspiracy ...
Still, Aloone did argue against Mastertech ... so ... I dunno
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And he posted an XP myths article from Mastertech ... it might be enough for a conspiracy ...
Still, Aloone did argue against Mastertech ... so ... I dunno
lol... :nothappy:
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go and fuck yourself.
and interesting that you and good old mastertech have exactly the same response to my posts.
... does this make you :nothappy: ?
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i actually quite like jones, but i won't stand for anybody calling me an idiot. i was kind of expecting him to rise to my half arsed flame, but perhaps he hasn't seen it yet.
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Oh ... and I didn't think up this conspiracy ... :)
But I do pick up on them quickly.
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Is this still going...FUCKKKKKKKK!!!
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some 1 shud kill the thread :]
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and we're cunts too, no doubt.
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easiest removal of MS super secret squirrel hidden files;
c:>fdisk
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y have a flaw
it will ask you if you want
echo Y | format C: [swiches that i do not remember]
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i was kind of expecting him to rise to my half arsed flame, but perhaps he hasn't seen it yet.
Correct.
all i said was that the hidden files were in windows 98 and ME exactly where i couldn't see them with hidden files turned off, just like the article says, way back when the article was new.
ME is understanderble as you can't boot to DOS without hacking it, but I didn't see the fuss about Windows 98, even at the time of writing as you could always boot to DOS and deleted/veiwed the files.
so what if it was written by a slightly foaming at the mouth fanatic? those were different days. some of you were still in primary school no doubt!
Now that is my problem with it, he hadn't taken the time to research and get his facts straight before posting it, he just went on the blood thirsty attack. I could've easilly solved this myth given an NT based version of Windows and a live Linux CD.
and to be honest i think you need to write to the webmaster of this site if you want to have influence over the site content,
I could but there again I can't see him responding, is there another email address I can try?
not just bad mouth me because i happen to respond to your post in a way you don't like.
Sorry, perhaps is was a bit of a misunderstanding on my part, at the time I was of the oppinion that you still believed the conspiracy theory, but on seeing this post I've changed my mind.
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Is this a cloned post ... there's a sticky with the same name :confused:
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It was split off and put into the bin. Then it was taken out.
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y have a flaw
it will ask you if you want
echo Y | format C: [swiches that i do not remember]
The correct commands are:
echo y>yes.txt
format c:
But that only works in Windows 98 or ME, to fromat Windows XP you need to run setup from the CD or a format program from a live Linux CD.
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no need for file feeds (<,>)
when you can use the Pipe ( | )
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echo y echoes an y when the format requests one !
:) any way just a manner of style
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The correct commands are:
echo y>yes.txt
format c:
But that only works in Windows 98 or ME, to fromat Windows XP you need to run setup from the CD or a format program from a live Linux CD.
or ...
DBAN (http://dban.sourceforge.net/)