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Title: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: RaZoR1394 on 27 August 2006, 20:07
Let's make a list of why Windows sucks harder than a 2$ whore. Please add as much as you can.

For a starter:

* It's proprietary.
* The company Microsoft has some evil business tactics.
* It's unstable, it crashes.
* It prone to viruses.
* It's prone to spyware.
* It's prone to trojans.
* It spies on you, for ex WGA.
* The WGA system doesn't work properly.
* It's expensive.
Title: Re: Let
Post by: worker201 on 27 August 2006, 20:48
* use of shitty graphics formats like bmp
* poor support for open graphics formats
* use of shitty video formats like avi
* poor support for open video formats
* use of shitty document formats
* poor support for open document formats
* proprietary media formats
* non-compliance with W3C standards
* make up their own useless shit and pass it off as a standard
* carriage-return AND line-feed at the end of every line
* charges extra cash for useful programs like a word processor and a spreadsheet
* no truly useful programs like awk or sed or grep
* programs can't be piped together, because programs are unmodular
* no support for other filesystems, like HFS+ or ext3
* filesystem can't be partitioned with normal tools
* even when you're doing nothing but playing minesweeper, the disk and the processor run like crazy, doing godknowswhat

I could go on and on
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Lead Head on 27 August 2006, 20:59
(http://www.imagecross.com/thumbs/1814dfgdfg.jpg) (http://www.imagecross.com/viewer.php?id=1814dfgdfg.jpg)

:D
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Title: Re: Let
Post by: pofnlice on 27 August 2006, 21:14
Uh huh...I think you know what he meant :P

There's one in every crowd!
Title: Re: Let
Post by: worker201 on 27 August 2006, 21:14
Cute, but I can hear the fucking thing running.
Title: Re: Let
Post by: piratePenguin on 27 August 2006, 21:59
* It sets up an insecure environment for the user.
* It overwrites the MBR no matter what, and doesn't set the bootloader up so other installed OSes can easily be booted.
* Kludgy not-well-thought-out user interface.
  * You have to click the start button to shut it down.. wtf?
Title: Re: Let
Post by: piratePenguin on 27 August 2006, 22:07
Quote from: Lead Head
(http://www.imagecross.com/thumbs/1814dfgdfg.jpg) (http://www.imagecross.com/viewer.php?id=1814dfgdfg.jpg)

:D
(thumbnail)
The spike in CPU usage - was that when you moved the mouse?

That brings me on to another mammoth of a problem with windows:
* SHIT MEMORY MANAGEMENT!

also:
* it packs the shittiest of drawing programs ever.
* it packs the shittiest of web-browsers ever.
* it packs the shittiest of themes ever (I've come across alot of Windows users who BUY the WindowsBlinds theme).
* It's god-damn annoying to use.
* lots of shitty updates (if you think the recent Ubuntu fuckup was bad (which it was!), there was a recent Windows 2000 (iirc) update which introduced a bunch of critical-enough security holes)
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Lead Head on 27 August 2006, 22:12
that spike was when i opend the task manager my linux rig does that to...

@worker, of course you can hear my rig running, i have 4 high flow 120mm fans, a 3500RPM 70mm fan, a 6.2k RPM 50mm fan on the GPU and a 4kRPM 40mm fan on the chipset, my rig is anyhting but quiet
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Lead Head on 27 August 2006, 22:16
Quote from: piratePenguin
* It sets up an insecure environment for the user.
* It overwrites the MBR no matter what, and doesn't set the bootloader up so other installed OSes can easily be booted.
* Kludgy not-well-thought-out user interface.
  * You have to click the start button to shut it down.. wtf?[/QUOTE]

since when:p i just hit the power button and it goes through its usual "windows is shutting down--saving settings---shutting down--powered off" thing

but i hate MS-Paint, the one that comes with win2k can only save in .bmps wich i hate
Title: Re: Let
Post by: worker201 on 27 August 2006, 22:38
Quote from: Lead Head
worker, of course you can hear my rig running, i have 4 high flow 120mm fans, a 3500RPM 70mm fan, a 6.2k RPM 50mm fan on the GPU and a 4kRPM 40mm fan on the chipset, my rig is anyhting but quiet
Fan noise is one thing, and it is to be expected.  But I'm talking about drive seek noise.  The hard drive is working.  Probably writing and erasing graphics to swap space.
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Lead Head on 27 August 2006, 22:44
no...not when you have 256MB of ram or over, but it does piss me off when i minimize counter strike source or something and it unloads the 400MB or so of textures from the system ram/graphics memory into the HD, sure it gives me back 400MB of working system ram, but as soon as i maximize it back up, it sits there for 15-20sec loading the textures back into memory...

(it is not a not enough memory related problem, its a stupid windows wants to transfer all data from minimized apps from system ram to the HD until they are maximized again problem)
Title: Re: Let
Post by: hm_murdock on 28 August 2006, 00:44
What about the occasional obsession it has with grinding the HD for upwards of an hour or more, for no good reason. XP would do that to me quite often. With Indexing Service disabled, it still did it. With System Restore disabled, it still did it.

Who the fuck knows what it might be.
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Lead Head on 28 August 2006, 00:54
Quote from: hm_murdock
What about the occasional obsession it has with grinding the HD for upwards of an hour or more, for no good reason. XP would do that to me quite often. With Indexing Service disabled, it still did it. With System Restore disabled, it still did it.

Who the fuck knows what it might be.

Thats fucked

*glances over at HD light...*
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 28 August 2006, 05:18
- If one could visualize the Window$ kernel it would look like a large, bloated piece of swiss cheeze with butter or diarrhea plugging up the holes (whichever you prefer to imagine)
- It's not case sensitive
- NTFS is shit
- I comes pre-installed 99.9 % of the time
- There is no shell worth mentioning
- It's slow, bloated, vaporwear, bullshit and more
- The EULA blows goats
- The installer is shitty
- It does things behind your back (like indexing all your files by default)
- you are the admin by default
- it is more than insecure ... it defines insecurity
- It will eventually fuck up your computer from all the bullshit (there have been cases haven't there ?)
- it lacks innovation
- it is the product of a monopolistic evil empire run by Bill Gate$ (what could be worse than that ... a monopolistic evil empire run by :eek: :eek: Steve Ballmer :eek: :eek: )
- it's not open-source (unless you count the leakage)
- it's overflowing with bullshit
- it not only hogs all your resources but manages to waste them too and does a piss poor job of managing them
- anything is better than it
- it is worse than nothing
- why not make a list of good things about Window$ it would be shorter ... much much shorter
- etc. etc. and so on ... I could probably write all day, but I just don't care to
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 28 August 2006, 18:17
* It only supports SMB shares. GNOME (nautilus) can connect to at least FTP, SMB, SSH, webdav (and webdav secure) and presumably NFS. KDE (Konqueror) probably supports a similar range, same with OS X. But not windows.

It's just the shittest OS out there plain and simple.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: jtpenrod on 29 August 2006, 10:29
And let's not forget that it obsoletes otherwise perfectly good systems. I have a Dell Dimension from 1996 that runs Slack (with KDE no less) with 64MB RAM, a P-I, and two HDs: 1.5GB and 2.0GB.

No way you could run XP on that. If you're not doing heavy number crunching, this ssytem is still quite serviceable for doing most of what most people use PCs for anyway.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 29 August 2006, 12:59
* crappy, unfriendly installer with a crappy, unfriendly partitioner (would it be so hard to tell us the partition type like every other partitioner in the world?)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: pofnlice on 29 August 2006, 13:37
be caus teh windowz suxorz teh mostestest and maximumimizes teh suckynessness factorz to teh highest degreezors n teh bill gatez monstorz madezit!!HAHAHAHALOL!Oo1O!L!o1L!L!o!l1l!!L
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 29 August 2006, 14:56
I tried to install fucking windows 2000 and the son of a bitch decided to (a) fuck up the bootable flag on the hdd and (b) delete GRUB, all just before it realized the harddrive's in too bad of a condition to install.

You'd think it would check BEFORE it fucks shit up.

So I had to spend some time in the Ubuntu livecd fixing it, damn I love that livecd.

btw, ubuntu's running pretty much perfect on this "shitty" drive.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 29 August 2006, 20:49
Well you could always run a live CD if your HDD fails ... and upload all your files to Gmail like I do, or some other online storage places. Or you could buy a new HDD or dumpster dive for one or get one from an old Xbox (like me)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 29 August 2006, 21:11
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
Well you could always run a live CD if your HDD fails ... and upload all your files to Gmail like I do, or some other online storage places. Or you could buy a new HDD or dumpster dive for one or get one from an old Xbox (like me)

[offtopic]Do you use gmailfs? Looks like it could be useful to you..

I backed my important stuff up to an external hdd before restoring the MBR, but everything's going fine now anyhow.[/offtopic]
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 29 August 2006, 21:40
[offtopic] hmmm ... gmailfs, never heard of it

I just looked it up. Looks very interesting and quite possibly very useful. Unfortunately it's still alpha ... wouldn't trust it with anything too important.[/offtopic]
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 3 September 2006, 16:21
Quote from: Lead Head
(http://www.imagecross.com/thumbs/1814dfgdfg.jpg) (http://www.imagecross.com/viewer.php?id=1814dfgdfg.jpg)

:D
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I don't have this problem because I don't use a shitty memory resident AV  program.

http://i1.tinypic.com/280pdlh.jpg
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 3 September 2006, 17:40
You wouldn't believe how many viruses you get watching pr0n on Window$. In fact while surfing with FF on Linux I once got a message saying something like:

"Error: Drive C: not found"

I'm betting it was trying to put a virus on drive C:, muhahahaah, there is no drive C: bitches !!!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 3 September 2006, 21:01
I do a scan every month or so and so far I haven't had a single virus. :p I use a limited account and Opera, Thunderbird, OpenOffice.org, and Media Player Classic  and Real Player for watching porn.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 3 September 2006, 21:27
* The shit OS randomly goes berserk on the file system and leaves BIIIG BIG empty holes ...

* Then in XP they fucked up the only two saving programs that are essential
Scandisk and Defrag !
now you can not even fix shit !
[poo]


[edit:and another thing:]

* Why in the seventh layer of hell ... my gov thought it will be a good idea to BUY (yes BUY not ripoff but BUY) all 1000+ copyes of window$ so that they can then BUY office packets for the people to use at work when they can easyly work with open oses/software that are more secure and less prone to idiot atacks(like when the owner is an idiot)
:nothappy::nothappy::nothappy::nothappy::nothappy::nothappy::nothappy::thumbdwn:
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 3 September 2006, 22:02
My main problem  with Windows is the Genuine advantage shit, I also hate the way it's hard to customise and you can't easilly remove Internet Explorer.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 4 September 2006, 00:08
shure as hell you can... :)
you just have to screw with the internal files
if some 1 knows enough about XP letss do it :) else in 98 it is easy as 1-2-3
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: pofnlice on 4 September 2006, 00:10
Because to use it you have to pay anywhere from $150 - $300. Why? I all ready spen x amount on the computer!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 9 September 2006, 15:35
On other forums (http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=2755766&page=2), this dude decided to piss on Ubuntu. That's fine, except he uses Windows. Windows!

So yea, this list helped me get this response out, and there's a little new stuff in it too:
Quote
Quote from: deusexaethera
I installed Ubuntu a couple of times. It was infuriating having to "sudo" all of the commands that I needed to execute under the Root account. They shouldn't have blocked that account from being used directly.

It also would have been nice if my Postscript printer driver had worked. Not worked properly, worked at all.
But did you like the text editor/s (gedit)? Did you like the image manipulation program (the gimp)? Did you like the office suite (OpenOffice.org)? Did you like the web browser (firefox)? Did you like the IM program (gaim)? Did you like the many cool and useful GNOME panel applets? Did you like the document viewer (evince - for viewing PDFs, Postscript, DjVu and whatever DVI is documents)? Did you like the native support for NFS, SMB, FTP, SSH, and WebDav shares? Did you like the email client (Evolution)? Did you like the BitTorrent client? Did you like the support for so many more compressed archives? Did you like the friendly Take Screenshot program? The Dictionary? The actaully-not-bad games? The photo management program? The scanning software (XSane)? The backup system (Keep)? Being able to start new graphical logins from within a window (gdmflexiserver, of course it's accessible via the GUI)? That you don't have to resort to a Run box to configure which servers start at boot (msconfig, blow me)?

Did you like the fact that it's all free software? That it's not developed by a convicted monopolist? That it doesn't have any copy-protection bullshit and doesn't spy on it's users (WGA, what a useful program!)? That it has a sometimes-invaluable command line interface, with programs such as sed, awk and grep? That it supports all types of useful filesystems? That it's polite enough to ask before overwriting the MBR (and not with a shitty boot loader either - only the best bootloader on the planet period)? That it doesn't ship with a theme that looks like it was designed by Fisher Price? That the installer isn't an unfriendly piece of shit (as well as the partitioner, would it be so hard to tell us the partition type like every other partitioner in the fcking world!?)? That the installer is on a very usable graphical livecd? That it runs on PPC-based machines (i.e. millions of those old macs)? That the Applications menu is actually organized (what genius usability expert did MS pay to decide not to organize it properly?)?

All this, and:

   1. It's free as in freedom.
   2. It's free as in price.
   3. It fits on one CD.

Does Windows have ANYTHING other than industry support? Except Paint, that is.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _kill__bill on 9 September 2006, 18:55
Easier list: The good parts of Windows:

Runs most new games better and easier than Linux
People (translation: morons) trust it, and cry when they can't find it
It encourages people to switch to Linux.

That's it.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: worker201 on 9 September 2006, 22:27
Quote from: piratePenguin
Originally Posted by deusexaethera             I installed Ubuntu a couple of times. It was infuriating having to "sudo" all of the commands that I needed to execute under the Root account. They shouldn't have blocked that account from being used directly.

It also would have been nice if my Postscript printer driver had worked. Not worked properly, worked at all.
Well, I kinda have to agree with the guy.  Ubuntu's default protection of the root account is kinda stupid.  However, most other Linuxes don't act like this.  They require you to set up a root account and a user account.  Which is much safer.

"PostScript printer driver" sounds like something this guy found on a forWindows install disc.  Which would explain why it didn't work.  Linux should be able to speak PostScript all by itself.  Connecting a PostScript printer to a usable port is pretty much the only step required.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 9 September 2006, 22:33
Quote from: worker201
Well, I kinda have to agree with the guy.  Ubuntu's default protection of the root account is kinda stupid.  However, most other Linuxes don't act like this.  They require you to set up a root account and a user account.  Which is much safer.
I don't think that's safer. Users would just try to login as root then. There's no need to login as root ever with sudo.

I know that guy reckons non-free software is all the rage with their usability experts and OMG PAID programmers, that's why I went with the long-winded reply btw.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 9 September 2006, 22:50
the easiest way I think is to just log in as regular user and if you need root access for something open a terminal and su into root
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 9 September 2006, 23:08
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
the easiest way I think is to just log in as regular user and if you need root access for something open a terminal and su into root
In Ubuntu then you can run 'sudo -s' to start a root session.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: worker201 on 9 September 2006, 23:10
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
the easiest way I think is to just log in as regular user and if you need root access for something open a terminal and su into root
That's what I do.  The only time I have ever logged in as root was when gdm died and the session manager wouldn't let me login as anything else.

 
Quote from: piratePenguin
I don't think that's safer. Users would just try to login as root then.

If having a root account somehow forces people to log in as root on a regular basis, then these people are fucktards and shouldn't be allowed to leave their padded cells.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 9 September 2006, 23:22
Quote from: worker201

If having a root account somehow forces people to log in as root on a regular basis, then these people are fucktards and shouldn't be allowed to leave their padded cells.
Ugh, that's usability 101 that users are fucktards and shouldn't be allowed to leave their padded cells ;)

It doesn't force them to login as root but some would do it, even though there's basically no reason to start a graphical session as root (certainly, some people would start graphical sessions as root more than necessary, like everytime they get a permission denied error). For non-graphical sessions there's 'sudo -s'.

What's wrong with sudo?

It's probably easier for noobs to grasp that for administrative tasks, you have to reenter your password, rather than having to enter an admin password (why isn't the user already admin?), and that's probably why they went with it.

Plus, it's as easy as 'sudo passwd' to set up a root password for those who for whatever reason want it..
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: worker201 on 10 September 2006, 00:21
I asked Void Main about this once, and I never got a clear answer.  I guess the only real difference is that one method is intuitive to the winn00bs, and the other method is more intuitive to the established Linux paradigm of the classic server and client model.  As long as there is absolutely no other effect on the security of the system as a whole, I suppose you can use which every way you like.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 10 September 2006, 03:34
I think the difference is you can limit the power of a sudo user. (am I right ?)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 10 September 2006, 15:45
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
I think the difference is you can limit the power of a sudo user. (am I right ?)
Yep, sudo is kinda cool like that. But by default on Ubuntu nobody has their power limited - the default user has permission to run any command as root as long as they enter their password (you can remove the password requirement too, but then you may as well be running as root).
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: davidnix71 on 10 September 2006, 21:10
One more for the list-

With one of the latest updates, M$ now has hard coded backdoors in your dns resolver dll that you can't edit or XP won't boot because the dll is now a protected image file.

Open dnsapi.dll (system32 folder) in notepad and you can see go.microsoft.com and other ip's that override your HOST file settings.

When you open ceratin apps, they call home and check for updates whether you want them to or not. The only way to block them is with a non-winblows external firewall.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Pathos on 11 September 2006, 04:20
* XP home requires you to restart in safe mode and log in as an administrator to change file permissions.

* can't enable user switching and screen locking at the same time.

* Business decisions take priority over security decisions. (default administrative access, administrator password not set on install, programs execute unverified code without double checking).

* Parts of the OS are never upgraded unless there is public outcry.

* Inconsistent gui (eg XP theme vs classic dialogs all over the place).

* You need third party software to hack the damn thing to change its appearance properly.

* Built in flaws to ensure need to upgrade

* poor text only interface

* messy codec handling

* f*cking obtuse registry

* poor driver standards and consistency.

* poor security on initially released products (got to make money before you fix it)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 14 September 2006, 20:19
+ you can't install the piece of shit to a slave harddrive. I've been trying to install this fucking thing over a number of weeks and it's just TOO FUCKING MUCH!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Refalm on 14 September 2006, 22:13
Quote from: davidnix71
Open dnsapi.dll (system32 folder) in notepad and you can see go.microsoft.com and other ip's that override your HOST file settings.

That's fucked up.
Too bad for Microsoft I've got a NAT box.

127.0.0.1 microsoft.com
in your face!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 13 December 2006, 22:07
Here's some more.
 
1. often hard to use
2. very prone to viruses
3. compatibility
4. reliability
5. poorly constructed regarding the layout
6. programs that come with it often play up
7. hard to save files
8. irritating sound effects
9. hardware support is a dog
10. software support is just as bad
11. very expensive to use
12. support lasts for a short time.
13. very selfish and uncaring manufacturers
14. very poor graphics which are hard on the eyes
15. very prone to spyware
16. very prone to hackers
17. very toxic to other computers
18. poor at solving drive errors
19. rubbish at maintaining drives (defragmentation)
20. purchase price is a stealth tax
21. some sites only use Windows to run
22. game compatibility is fixed towards that series of OSs!
23. tracks what programs you use
24. tracks what you do on the internet
25. comes with new computers, and you don't get to choose the blasted operating system that comes with it!
26. shows the name "Microsoft" over and over again
27. uses a very bad method to partition hard drives
28. unfriendly user interface which treats the user like an idiot
29. help and support does not solve problems
30. some file types are not recognisable
31. each new system in the series requires a more powerful machine
32. installation and uninstallation is troublesome
33. uninstallation leaves unusable files on your machine
 
:mad:
 
No wonder I hate using it. I will soon quit using it altogether when I get a new computer (although I need it to access the gaming site I play on).
 
Gimme gimme a product that isn't Microsoft.
 
By the way, Refalm, what is a NAT box?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 13 December 2006, 22:13
I'm betting you could use that gaming site just as well on Linux (through wine if necessary).
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: pofnlice on 14 December 2006, 09:02
BZFlag is still one of the most addictive games out there.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: yahurd on 2 February 2007, 01:08
(http://toastytech.com/evil/shutdown2.gif)
kill him!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: solemnwarning on 2 February 2007, 01:13
Quote from: yahurd
(http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://toastytech.com/evil/billscomputer.gif)
and
(http://toastytech.com/evil/shutdown2.gif)
kill him!


*gasp*
Thread necromancy!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: davidnix71 on 2 February 2007, 01:17
The whole C drive reqiurement is M$ crap, too. Why can't you put your OS on a different drive letter in Windozes? Because it's too stupid. Same problem with installing certain apps. If MS Office is installed on a D drive you will have problems because some things were hard-coded.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Calum on 2 February 2007, 17:16
sometimes i think you can buy sacks of dumbness for ten cents each in washington.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: yahurd on 19 May 2007, 22:16
-is as insecure as the anti-openbsd, hell it IS the anti-openbsd
-must dual boot between browsers if you want to test a page in more than one ie
-interface could have been designed by the gnome team
-microsofts own hit language isnt supported by default
-the microsoft sales guys can not do without buzzwords "mike, ubuntu does not come close to the general, ie global usability of windows xp"
like hell posix, THE internet, doesnt
-its interface was painted by a two year old
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 19 May 2007, 23:24
Gotta agree with the two-year-old and gnome bits.
 
Only reason for this: they take their users for idiots. Seems they believe that if it doesn't look fancy enough, people won't buy it. People will buy it alright regardless of the appearance - as long as they BELIEVE it works properly - which it doesn't.
 
Kinda reminds of the bit from the Simpsons that goes like this:
 
Homer: Mmm, chocolate (he gets a box of neopolitan out of the freezer and opens it to find all the chocolate ice-cream gone) - D'OH! Mmm, chocolate (he gets another box out - there's no chocolate in that either) - D'OH! Marge! We need some more vanilla, chocolate and strawberry ice cream!
 
Marge: I'll get some at the store tomorrow, Homer.
 
Homer: Mmm, chocolate. (he puts the boxes back in the freezer)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: solemnwarning on 20 May 2007, 00:57
Quote from: yahurd
-interface could have been designed by the gnome team


I thought gnome was designed from windows, but it could be the other way around :P
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 20 May 2007, 01:50
It probably was the other way round.

Seriously though, haven't KDE and Gnome both borrowed ideas from both Mac OS, Windows and what about CDE?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: mobrien_12 on 20 May 2007, 05:48
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H

"Error: Drive C: not found"

Muhahahaah, there is no drive C: bitches !!!


Picturing Dave Chappele saying this :)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: mobrien_12 on 20 May 2007, 05:52
Quote from: worker201

"PostScript printer driver" sounds like something this guy found on a forWindows install disc.  Which would explain why it didn't work.  Linux should be able to speak PostScript all by itself.  Connecting a PostScript printer to a usable port is pretty much the only step required.


True, but you can get more features and better performance if you load a more specific .ppd file into CUPS for the postscript printer.  .ppd files work in windows and linux... they plug into the postscript printer system.  Maybe that's what this knucklehead meant.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: yahurd on 24 May 2007, 03:57
shell was coded so sloppily, that every now and then a menu doesnt dissappear
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 25 June 2007, 11:38
Kernel32 was coded as stupidly, particularly in Windows Mistake Edition - you wouldn't be able to go a week without a bloody Kernel error appearing.
I'd like to add another reason why Windows sucks: it crashes and you receive errors without having ever done anything to upset the Kernel department.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: piratePenguin on 13 August 2007, 17:24
With each new release, the user interface changes considerably, to the point that users fear Windows upgrades.

Compare that to OS X, for example (if they could just afford it, everyone would upgrade).

Windows is going to fail.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 13 August 2007, 21:23
Not fucking likely, piratePenguin. Their stranglehold on the computer market will make sure that the failure of their OSs will never be, because they will force software companies to promote and sell their systems only and no other operating systems, AND to send their software to the top ranks in all the places they can get their arses over to.
 
Users of Windows who don't know about Microsoft's evil tactics or the basic ins and outs of computing think that their brags about their OSs are true because of this, and this is why many computer illiterates will always believe that if a computer or operating system is not new, it is 'out-of-date'. Adding to this is the fact that many computer-illiterate people think that Microsoft's newer systems are faster, more secure, and so on, half because of the fact that they don't even know what sodding hardware they've got, and because they are led to believe that new = better, faster, and more secure - and as we've all seen this is not the case.
 
Check out the thread 'You know what pisses me off?' in The Moron Zone for more examples of complete computer illiteracy. I personally don't believe in a machine being out of date - what's the point of throwing out a perfectly good machine just because you've had it for a few years?
"Ooh, look! A new Windows system hasbeen released! Better buy a new computer."
It seems just a shame that a few people do not even know that OSs other than Windows exist, and that they can still use their older machine even if the new version of Windows will not run on it, because they can simply use older or different systems, right? It's only true, though many just buy new computers for the sake of it.
You wouldn't chuck out your car just because it got too old, would ya? Exactly.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Lead Head on 14 August 2007, 03:54
Quote from: piratePenguin
With each new release, the user interface changes considerably, to the point that users fear Windows upgrades.

Compare that to OS X, for example (if they could just afford it, everyone would upgrade).

Windows is going to fail.

Windows 95,98, 2000 and ME. XP to Vista was probably the largest difference?

Heres another reason why windows sucks.
It takes my vista computer around 5 minutes to shut down, but under 30 seconds to boot. Go figure.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: solemnwarning on 14 August 2007, 04:04
Quote from: _LiquidOxygen
Check out the thread 'You know what pisses me off?' in The Moron Zone for more examples of complete computer illiteracy. I personally don't believe in a machine being out of date - what's the point of throwing out a perfectly good machine just because you've had it for a few years?


I have lots of spare machines kicking around, I used to use them as servers/routers and would still like to, but the power to run them cost too much, so all my servers are now Xen domains on one decent machine.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 14 August 2007, 13:49
The largest change in the Windows interface was from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95; from then to Windows ME it changed very little, then XP wasn't much different apart from being a step back of course. I don't know about Vista though as I have never used it and don't intend on doing so.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: blackcenterpoint on 28 August 2007, 06:17
Wow, those reasons listed are all the reasons I can think of except for perhaps that I dislike microsoft windows for being such a sloppy system that never does a complete job at deleting files. OTherwise, how is that registry errors and fragmented files occur that slow the operating system down over time and make you upgrade your ram and processor for no good reason unless you deframent and clean the registry? Even after you clean the disk of unnecessary clutter, it's never the same after you use it. Just plain sloppy.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 28 August 2007, 11:20
As far as I know, Vista has got a similar kind of interface to Windows XP, but it just looks slightly different to the one in XP. Trouble is, it is more difficult to navigate around and find what you want using it.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 28 August 2007, 21:46
Vista is born dead!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: inane on 31 August 2007, 03:42
Quote from: pofnlice
Because to use it you have to pay anywhere from $150 - $300. Why? I all ready spen x amount on the computer!

What are you talking about, back when I used to use windows (I'm at the college right now on a XP machine supposedly working) it didn't cost a di. . . OH wait you BUY your copies legitimately I see. . .

Yeah I guess that's one reason to hate Windows, it turned me into a "criminal". . . sure whatever.

I guess I hate how I can't drag the cursor over an unfocused application and use the scroll wheel on it.

I hate how the start button stares at me for hours and hours. . . I used to change it to read "Fuck" or "Sucks."
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: darkhut on 24 September 2007, 18:49
- pop-up baloons from tray
- bad power management in fuckin vista - can't wake up from suspend to ram
- huge overhead, which gets bigger with every release so people have to buy new expensive hardware
- games are made for windows only, and people(kids) start using computers for playing games, so they don't know there is something else out there besides windows
- you pay a lot of money for mostly nothing - I think the only progam i use in windows is the clipboard, the rest is free software like firefox, openoffice, foxit, irfanview, winamp or itunes, vlc
- did I say I use openoffice? that's right microsuck try and charge me $300 for office!
- no live session when u install so your computer is useless until you get everything up and running, like, after 3 hours of installing chipset drivers/video/sound/bla bla bla
- every application made for windows has great overhead itself, ex yahoo messenger, steam, ie7; that's right, who knows what the fuck are they doing behind the scenes!!!

more later
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: darkhut on 24 September 2007, 18:57
oh oh, activation, yes, you wouldnt believe what I have to put up with to get a code by phone after using all my 10 activations. how did I get to use them all? well,the system doesn't work right after three months of usage, so I have to reinstall damn it
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: darkhut on 24 September 2007, 19:11
oh oh, it took them how many years to make Vista??
4?
hahahahahaah that's so fuckin pathetic :))
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 24 September 2007, 21:43
Edit ???
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: darkhut on 25 September 2007, 15:49
nah, i like me signature as it is
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 25 September 2007, 17:08
It implies that you may be saying this quote to someone else on these forums. And Microsoft is spelled wrong.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 25 September 2007, 18:06
All it say's is "I'm dyslexic, I can't spell!"
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Calum on 25 September 2007, 19:27
actually it says "Fuck you Microsfot too!"

EDIT: and since some of my later posts have been illegally censored, let me take the opportunity now to point out that i IN NO WAY think there's anything wrong with saying "Microsfot". Leave me out of your petty arguments over spelling in future.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 1 October 2007, 22:44
Does it have to be a real word? type-os happen, live with it!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 3 October 2007, 21:15
Quote from: _LiquidOxygen
Another critical failing with Windows is the fact that the updates do more harm than good. They correct some problems, but create many more other faults in the process.
Yup, also you should add the anoying nag screens which does not stop buging you unless you go thru unchecing the shit out of it even when it's "off"
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: kozuch82 on 3 October 2007, 21:52
Windows sucks because it just the fuck is!!! :mad::mad::mad:
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Orethrius on 5 October 2007, 02:08
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but I'm really not a fan of the whole "silent updates WHEN UPDATES ARE DISABLED" scandal.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 5 October 2007, 08:36
i'm thinking of blocking the M$ ip ranges on my network...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: ml2mst on 6 October 2007, 07:59
The crappy file system and it's "repair" tool Scandisk is also a pain in the ass.

The whole OS is so buggy that it frequently crashes, without any sane reason. After a crash, this crappy Scandisk fires up, which can take quite some time.

Once I shut down a running GNU/Linux machine running Reiserfs and was afraid, it would take at least 15 minutes to repair the eventually damaged filesystem.  Well actually it took a couple of seconds. It started to complain about Inodes, but that was so fast, that I was unable to read what it was complaining about.

And then there is this so called "fragmentation" of the crappy file system WTF?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 28 October 2007, 12:32
-MS is stuck up ass holes who make their own shitty way of doing somthing then assume its the best way and make it near impossible to do it any other way.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 28 October 2007, 12:51
Fragmentation is pices of a file are spread out on a disk because of bytes not being filled all the way.

In other words, its inevitable
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 28 October 2007, 20:09
-Everything for Windows (except freeware) costs something
-It has a bad habit of asking "Are you sure?"
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 29 October 2007, 09:35
ESPECIALLY in Vista, Sim.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 29 October 2007, 23:14
Yeah I know. You click My Computer, and it pops up with "You have clicked My Computer. Are you sure you want to do this?"
Or "You have changed the theme. Are you sure you want to keep the changes?"
Or even "You have just taken a breath. Are you sure you want to continue breathing?"
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 30 October 2007, 11:54
How pathetic, huh? God knows what kind of people Microsoft had in mind when they were developing this brainstorm.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 31 October 2007, 03:00
People with the minds of 2 year olds...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 31 October 2007, 05:56
Quote
You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?

(mac pc commercial)

-You have just kicked your computer. Cancel or allow?
-You have just moved your mouse. Cancel or allow?
-you have just decapitated bill gates. Cancel or allow?
-you have just had a heart attack. Cancel or allow?
-you have just commit suicide. Cancel or allow?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Blade on 3 November 2007, 02:16
Don't even start with me.

Why Windows sucks:

Once you get corrupt .cpl files, you are screwed! I can not open up windows explorer, control panel, or even the fucking recycle bin without EXPLORER.exe crashing. My task bar and icons disappear for about 10 seconds while I'm waiting for the damn thing to reload. But what option do I have? I really don't fell the urge to try and find the .cpl files and try to correct them... I may just fuck up windows even more!

I'll just have to reformat...AGAIN! Not even 4 months and I have to reformat this bitch again... I wish I had Ubuntu back...

Also... what pisses me off most is that my school uses the useless Windows network... and I swear, everyday the network is so made out of shit that the entire thing just locks up every damn PC in the entire classs room... whenever I try to open up the fucking network drives.

It's a real pain... I want Microsoft to go bankrupt!! They are DONE controling the entire world!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 3 November 2007, 04:19
sfc /scannow
is your solution my friend ...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 5 November 2007, 08:10
Quote from: Jack2000
sfc /scannow
is your solution my friend ...


Please, explain what this is for me: the rtard
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 5 November 2007, 23:52
Here are the biggest reasons to hate Windows.

1. Paint. That thing is a total piece of crap and a waste of code.

2. That freakin paper clip. So annoying. (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/TRIARII117/retardpaperclip.png)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 5 November 2007, 23:58
Simple click and hold the "win" key then press R then depress now type in the run dialog box : sfc /scannow

Have your windows xp cd ready and do as it sais...

What will happen is the repair utility will scan all "system" files for changes or if they are missing and fix them....

Simple solves 70% of all Mystery problems w/ libs and has been around since W98...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 6 November 2007, 00:04
Doesn't solve paint... or the paperclip...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: yahurd on 6 November 2007, 04:27
aero-ass
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 8 November 2007, 19:03
The only thing I can suggest if you want the paper clip in Microsoft Office away is for you to install the other assistants on the Office Disc, provided you still have it. This breaks every moral fibre in my body and possibly this site's rules too, but I think the feline assistant, Links, is really sweet.
Alternatively, if you don't want this, OpenOffice is one alternative answer. I currently have version 2.0 myself, and I'm looking for the latest version, 2.3.
As for Paint, it does have some uses - it can be used for editing and resizing photos. It can even be used to make avatars, emoticons, or simple animations, provided that you've got some animation software to combine the files together.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 8 November 2007, 23:56
I know how to turn him off. It's the computer illiterates who are annoyed by him haha...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 12 November 2007, 17:20
this sfc /scannow thinngy, can it fix that my OS sits at the WINXP screen for 10 muinets not doing anything at all?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 14 November 2007, 01:03
Tried bootvis (http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664) yet?
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 16 November 2007, 18:49
I got another thing to add to the list.

Sometimes does not resume from the Standby or Hibernation modes. I hate when I have to reboot the damn thing because it has stopped responding in either of those modes.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 17 November 2007, 00:17
*It lags like mad due to poor memory management.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 17 November 2007, 21:18
Very true Sim. I've used Windows since I was a small child and I know it for its lack of stability and insecurity. In fact, Windows 95, 98, and Millenium Edition are all known for their lack of stability, appalling login methods and abysmal memory management.

When I had 98 installed on my system it would frequently show blue screen errors, even though I had done almost nothing obvious to upset the KERNEL32 or SHELL32 memory areas. :bsd:

With Windows 2000 and XP, problems with memory management are not as frequent or severe, but you'll see that when you close down Internet Explorer, the file IEXPLORE.EXE will sometimes start hogging all of the system resources and I cannot figure out why this would be. Must be a sloppily coded memory base area. I've heard from one of my college friends that this problem is even worse in Windows Vista, with this happening more frequently than in XP or 2000. Worse still, if you're using a single-core processor with any of these systems you can do hardly anything while the resources are being hogged, and even when you open the Task Manager, it will stop responding for minutes at a time while you try to terminate the process, so in all it takes about ten minutes to release the system from this grip. This happens quite frequently to me when I close down various websites. Even this one, and it's such a pain in the arse to put up with, especially when it starts messing around, flashing, and causing my computer to lock up.

If I could install Linux onto this computer I would - but my mum's not too keen on the idea. Can't blame her really - it's her system, and she's used Windows for longer than anyone else in the house has.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 18 November 2007, 03:59
Hmm... Well I have a single core, and I have seen how bad it is when a process decides to be a memory hog.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 19 November 2007, 11:51
I dread to think what this will be like on computers with more than one processor. I'll bet that all of the processors will have to take this resource drain too.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 19 November 2007, 19:06
Halo doesn't run too bad on my 1.8 ghz AMD Sempron, and it really doesn't hang over too much after running. It's 3DS Max, using the Mental Ray renderer that hogs a lot of CPU work that could be cut in half easily on a dual core. Games are really not all that bad on Windows, if you have a good enough system.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 30 November 2007, 09:17
those PS2 emulators are crap on even the niceset machines. max out at 5fps
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 1 December 2007, 14:09
Emulation is very inefficient, you need a host machine that's typically >10 times as powerful as the one you're emulating. Look at the specification for the PS2 and you'll see that modern PCs are still not powerful enough to emulate it at a reasonable speed,
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 28 December 2007, 15:56
Another fault with Windows to add to this list. Just have a look at the thread '"Security" update causes IE6 to crash'. Microsoft have sunk to a new low. No wonder some people are choosing to give Windows to the flames and go for an alternate system instead when it comes to security, cost and stability.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Refalm on 29 December 2007, 03:46
Quote from: SiMuLaCrUm
That freakin paper clip. So annoying.

I love that paper clip. On every computer I encounter that has Office 2003 or lower, I activate it, because it makes people annoyed of Office.

Office 2007 doesn't have the paperclip, but that's compensated by an unworkable interface.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 29 December 2007, 05:11
Heh. I guess he can be kind of cool. Entertaining none the less.... sometimes.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: _LiquidOxygen on 29 December 2007, 11:33
I heard on Amazon that in Office 2007 it takes longer to do even simple things now, and the colouring of the interface makes it difficult for most people to read or identify data, even those who do not have vision problems. Things that took one click with Office 2003 now take around three or four.
I thought the point of releasing a new version was to simply update it and allow it to work on Vista? You know the old saying: 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Pity Microsoft don't pay attention to this and change things just for the sake of change.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 29 December 2007, 12:00
Sad...
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 December 2007, 12:01
I haven't used Office 2007 but 2003 was supposed to be the best version.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 29 December 2007, 16:29
Office 2007
(http://www.intelliadmin.com/images/Office%202007.jpg)

Office 2003
(http://www.tweakers.net/ext/i.dsp/1063316890.jpg)

I can see why. Office 2007 looks like the computer decided to vomit up a bunch of buttons. 2003 is actually organized.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 December 2007, 16:59
Yes, I think I've seen that before, it looks annoying that the top toolbar takes up on third of the screen. Surely there must be a way to set it back to the classic veiw? I can't believe Microsoft would do something this stupid.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 29 December 2007, 18:48
@Office07: suckit
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 30 December 2007, 00:37
One day, people are going to be asking real paper clips for help if Microsoft keeps making ClipIt (isn't that the clips name?)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 30 December 2007, 07:07
No, it is SATAN!
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: mobrien_12 on 30 December 2007, 07:59
Quote from: Simalcrum

I can see why. Office 2007 looks like the computer decided to vomit up a bunch of buttons. 2003 is actually organized.


And actually 2003's interface is a very significant step backwards from 2000 and even 97.  It puts all that CRAP on the right side of the screen, you have to use the mouse for too much stuff (like styles) which not only slows you down but is not good for your hands.  For example, when you wanted to change a style in 97/2000, it popped up a chooser window (EDIT this should have been called a "Dialog Box"), you picked the style, then hit "enter" or if you are a mouse junkie click OK.  It also had a Straightforward way to modify existing styles or create new ones.

In 2003, applying a style means popping up a huge pane on the right which you can't access by keyboard, only by mouse, and which has a really pain in the neck way to modify or build styles.


Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Yes, I think I've seen that before, it looks annoying that the top toolbar takes up on third of the screen. Surely there must be a way to set it back to the classic veiw? I can't believe Microsoft would do something this stupid.


From what I understand, No.  MS wants you to get used to it.

Which, you know, just blows the whole "use MS stuff because that's what everyone is used to" argument to smithereens.  The new MS uses incompatible formats and a brand new interface.  It's entirely new software.  If another company tried to sell this, it would be dead in the water.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 30 December 2007, 11:54
Shit, if I go for a new job and descover they use Office 2007, I'll walk out, unless they're pay me a hell of a load of money or let me use Office 2000 or OpenOffice.org.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 30 December 2007, 22:20
Hey jack, I just thougt of this:
Shitty Filesystem Correction.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Jack2000 on 30 December 2007, 22:58
Best bacronyms this month. :)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: SiMuLaCrUm on 31 December 2007, 00:35
@mobrien: That thing on the left can be closed. But yes, you are right, 97 does have a better GUI than '03.
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: 7031 on 1 January 2008, 18:06
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Shit, if I go for a new job and descover they use Office 2007, I'll walk out, unless they're pay me a hell of a load of money or let me use Office 2000 or OpenOffice.org.
Yeah. I wouldn't even try the 30 day trial. The thing is, only MSs products look right under Vista, forcing users to use MS products unless they want everything looking out of place.

I can see a lot of users either moving to a Linux, or sticking with XP.
Title: Re: Let
Post by: Refalm on 2 January 2008, 06:28
Quote from: Lead Head
but i hate MS-Paint, the one that comes with win2k can only save in .bmps wich i hate

I like mspaint, it reminds me of KolourPaint (http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/) :)
Title: Re: Let's make a list of why Windows sucks
Post by: Macrules on 2 January 2008, 08:05
Quote from: Jack2000
Best bacronyms this month. :)

Sweet. do I get sigged or somthing?