Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 1 September 2006, 04:18
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http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/the-startup-sound-in-vista/
http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/08/31/2347201.shtml
"There has been lots of debate in the past few days over Microsoft's plan to make the startup sound in Windows Vista something that can't be specifically silenced by changing the sound settings in the control panel. Users would be able to avoid hearing it by manually turning down the speaker volume, but then they would have to turn that volume back up to hear anything else."
The idea here (to both paraphrase Steve, and pass along the goals here that I learned) is that Windows Vista should present a common, and beautiful, face to the world. I could go more into it (I think what they are trying to do will be apparent in the shipping release, but isn
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Cool ... the more they restrict their users the better. (In previous Window$ versions one can just delete the WINDOW$/Media folder to get rid of the sounds ... hopefully they won't allow that either) I further hope they automatically set your sound level to the maximum possible so all can hear the call of Window$ ... much like they do in classrooms here (I love to go in there and turn the volume all the way up ... heheheheheh)
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Actually, I kinda like it. Now I can decide who to run vicious hack-attacks against just by listening.
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Besides taking choice away from the user it also means that in places or sitiations that require silence (librarys, early in the morning, etc) you cannot silence your laptop, or possibly your speakers don't have volume controls etc. Basically you cannot silence your computer when needed.
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I hope it's a lovely tune...We will all be hearing it a lot very soon.
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am i missing something? you just delete "The Microsoft Sound.wav" don't you? are we seriously proposing that the owners of a software system actually cannot decide what to do with the files that make up that system? if i pay money for a system (or if i don't, as is the case with fedora, my current OS), then i expect to have administrative rights on it, otherwise how can i maximise disk space, file my files, install and configure software and scripts etc? i can't imagine being the owner of a system and not being able to delete a file in that system when logged on as root. is this really what microsoft is selling to people? and they will buy it?
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Palladium is appealing where marketing techniques succeed.
Nevermind that it's the single closest thing to the Apocalypse as our systems will ever experience.
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That'll be another reason Windows sucks, and it'll be one of those appealing things other operating systems will have ("Come on, give Ubuntu a try. You can even turn off the startup sounds in it!!").
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If you delete the .wav file it'll probably reappear. I Don't see why they have done this, it seems a bit stupid to me. I hope it doesn't get installed on my work's PC, if so I'll build a little device to disconnect the speakers for X number of seconda from turning the power on to the PC.
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If you delete the .wav file it'll probably reappear. I Don't see why they have done this, it seems a bit stupid to me. I hope it doesn't get installed on my work's PC, if so I'll build a little device to disconnect the speakers for X number of seconda from turning the power on to the PC.
I happen to agree with the guy that hopes somebody creates a worm or something that replaces the standard startup sound with a pig squealing. :D
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Besides taking choice away from the user it also means that in places or sitiations that require silence (librarys, early in the morning, etc) you cannot silence your laptop, or possibly your speakers don't have volume controls etc. Basically you cannot silence your computer when needed.
Haven't you people learned by now? Microsoft knows what's best for better than you know yourselves. Just who the hell do you think you are, questioning your betters like that?
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I happen to agree with the guy that hopes somebody creates a worm or something that replaces the standard startup sound with a pig squealing. :D
LMFAO ! Why didn't I think of that. (or perhaps a sound track of pigs having sex)
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>ahem<
:: Presses power on my Power Macintosh G4 ::
BONNNNNNNG
So MS is ripping off what Apple has done for 22 years? Except that on Macs, if the system sound is muted, the startup sound doesn't play.
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What you refer to a startup sound on a Mac is actually a signal that your computer has passed its Power-On Self Test (POST). Which is very useful on a Mac, since you don't see anything on the screen until the graphics system is loaded. So really, the POST ding on a Mac is the Apple equivalent of those splash screens that run on a PC while the BIOS is being loaded. Totally different way of handling the startup process, requiring totally different sensory clues.
The startup sound under discussion is something totally different.
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Oh, I know.
Doesn't change the fact that MS has decided to use an unchangable noise at startup.
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Ught the start-up sounds ...
cant they jsut make them go away...
i do not like them not even one bit
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Take your lithium and the voices will go away. Wear earmuffs with earplugs...then you won't have to listen to it. Ahhh, just think, in a couple more weeks, you will go to work in the morning and immediately upon sitting down, your workplace will be filled with the start up sound of Vista from all directions.
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Actually, my next job might be in Angola. Does Windows 2.0 have a startup sound?
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I don't even think 2.x supports sound...
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Making a wav file of something else and give it the same name as the official Vista wav and replacing the file might work. It might have to be the same number of bytes, or have the same md5 sum, depending on how anal Bill is about keeping it untouched.
Using external speakers set to mute on startup will solve the problem otherwise. My eMac doesn't ding at me on startup because I mute the speakers most of the time.
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If MS doesn't want you to change the sound on vista, they won't let you. Remember, this is the palladiumified windows. You don't even have root on it. I have no difficulty believing that MS would use their DRM infrastructure to keep people from changing this wav file.
Even if they didn't, it will likely be registered as in use by the winlogon process and unable to be changed unless you mount the partition under a separate OS.
Then again, they may decode to be total dicks about it and hardcode the sound into the software (no wav file to change).
Remember this is MS we are talking about. "Where do you want to go today (as long as it's ok with us and our REAL customers, the RIAA and MPAA)?"
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I remember working at the police station in the mornings. All the ladies would come in from the adjudications branch, and even though thier office was on the other side of the barrier wall (complete with bomb glass)...I could still hear thier windows 2k every morning. It was almost as if they coordinated the boot up, that big clunky sound 200 makes at the splash screen was just annoying...It also served as a reminder...1 our to go.
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I could have sworn I posted something here earlier about the workplace being filled with that clunky windows 2k sound...I must be loosing my mind, either that or this is the third post which disappeared 0n me today.
Wow...now that was creepy...It just reappeared after I posted this.
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moan bitch moan
moan
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moan bitch moan
moan
That post shall haunt you for the rest of your days.
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I like it when bitches moan ...
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I could have sworn I posted something here earlier about the workplace being filled with that clunky windows 2k sound...I must be loosing my mind, either that or this is the third post which disappeared 0n me today.
Wow...now that was creepy...It just reappeared after I posted this.
Try to get a good 9 hours sleep ;)