Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Not Quite Mainstream OSes => Topic started by: Kintaro on 27 October 2002, 11:26
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Goto the website you can now download it as a bootable floppy. I hope it works, please email any problems to me!!! www.windotnet.tk (http://www.windotnet.tk)
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Well after having my last campaign of insane posts to make people get it, its not working.
I am actually pissed off now,
I spend hours working on it... Yes hours and half of you cant be arsed downloading it. Why not no seriously it has not trojans, no Malware and nothing nasty at all. But you people ignore it.... I POSTED IT A MONTH AGO!
You are all using at least 2.0 when i spent an hour making 2.1 i know if you have downloaded it because you have to get a Serial off me to work it... Actually im going to be genouros...
MSNSUX4EVER
Theres your Serial... Now fucking get it and make a comment... I know that most of you have a version of Windows that is compatible.
[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1 ]
[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1 ]
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Who thinks i should make a bootable floppy disk version???
Because ill make one, that way NOBODY has an excuse not to try it unless they are using a Macintosh, but then still you can get bochs and try it. I will even make a bochs image'd version!
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It's relatively pointless. Find a better way to use your time.
:D
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i fucking downloaded it and i even emailed you asking for the serial!
one hour!
huh, also, i hope you emailed me back telling me how to run it in linux, i can't stand you developers who code only for windows...
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He posted the code in this thread. I saw that after I e-mailed him. First post.
And it's VB so don't count on it running in Linux or WINE. I'm sorta curious as to how he's making VB apps.
BTW: Calum, check your PM
[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
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why would you expect someone to get, or use, this? It is full of gramatical errors. There is a difference between too and to. "Pass Word" is different from password, i'm confused. And your "loading" doesn't actually load anything, it just slows everything down. And i doubt you can make a bootable version as it seems to be using DOS interrupts, which means you'd have to have a version of DOS with it. and that violates copyright laws. well i'm done complaining for now, but i'll likely be back.
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at least he posted it in the right forum for a bloody change. he's worse than the fucking rice gang.
plus, after all his moaning, i followed his rules to the letter, emailing him asking for the password and he's not even bothered to reply.
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ok i'm back (so soon). It uses qbasic, qbasic programs require DOS. there is no avoiding it. unless you get some DOS emulator or something. You waste an awful lot of time with pointless loops, i've done you the favor of making it a bit smaller:
'$include: 'qb.bi'
dim regs as regtype
regs.ax=1
call interrupt(&h33,regs,regs)
screen 13,0,1
do
cls
"Starting...";
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<2
print "Done."
print "Wait a few moments while we pretend to do stuff, then we'll do it again"
pcopy 1,0
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<1
loop
i hate it, never again will i download something i have doubts on.
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ok i'm back (so soon). It uses qbasic, qbasic programs require DOS. there is no avoiding it. unless you get some DOS emulator or something. You waste an awful lot of time with pointless loops, i've done you the favor of making it a bit smaller:
'$include: 'qb.bi'
dim regs as regtype
regs.ax=1
call interrupt(&h33,regs,regs)
screen 13,0,1
do
cls
"Starting...";
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<2
print "Done."
print "Wait a few moments while we pretend to do stuff, then we'll do it again"
pcopy 1,0
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<1
loop
i hate it, never again will i download something i have doubts on.
I agree fully. I could easily inprove the code if I wanted to.
Although I do believe that he was trying to show the downsides of .NET
X11, check your PM.
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He posted the code in this thread. I saw that after I e-mailed him. First post.
And it's VB so don't count on it running in Linux or WINE. I'm sorta curious as to how he's making VB apps.
BTW: Calum, check your PM
[ October 27, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
It probably cant run in Wine but its not written in Visual Basic so fuck you retard!, its a good joke! Also Calum it runs in FreeDOS and DR-DOS which you can download for free from www.drdos.net (http://www.drdos.net)
So shut up!!!
(Im only joking about the rageness so dont think im all pissed off)
I will make a Floppy Disk Bootable version for you to have fun with. Its good to see you cant run it anyway Calum that you are now MS Free. Thats why i am working on a bootable version that can be downloaded and Installed to a floppy disk, whcih you can put in a computer of your own choice. I know that Microsoft QBASIC is a Program written by Microsoft with a language stolen from Xerox. Personally, I dont care, its free anyway.
As for those with doubts in my coding, suck my balls. I dont care its a joke run it it doesnt bite, half the bugs where installed to make it look like Windows ;). I know you want my Microsoft imatation to look good and make Microsoft imortalized but its not my problem.
I am know PHP, and i still prctice my C++ so I will be better then you.
You kan not judge it until you actually run it and with the bootable version only Mac users will have problems and they can use bochs.
I have already spent to long coding it to just Dump it. So for god sake Download the Bootable one.
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I agree fully. I could easily inprove the code if I wanted to.
Although I do believe that he was trying to show the downsides of .NET
X11, check your PM.
You hit the nail on the head that time (I belive the webmaster siad this to you before, or was it sombody else.)
Oh Calum the Serial Number is at the top of the thread.
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yeah, but you said you'd email it to me! retroactively changing your licence agreement eh? sounds like Microsoft, you're doing a good job of emulating them... :rolleyes:
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Calum i dont know about you but i goto school and at school i cant have a machine to poup everytime i get email. And i have replyed to it, Also since you cant read, I put it in the top of the thread, or should i recored everyhting i post and post a link to a Ogg Vorbis of me reading the threads for you.
:D
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ok i'm back (so soon). It uses qbasic, qbasic programs require DOS. there is no avoiding it. unless you get some DOS emulator or something. You waste an awful lot of time with pointless loops, i've done you the favor of making it a bit smaller:
'$include: 'qb.bi'
dim regs as regtype
regs.ax=1
call interrupt(&h33,regs,regs)
screen 13,0,1
do
cls
"Starting...";
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<2
print "Done."
print "Wait a few moments while we pretend to do stuff, then we'll do it again"
pcopy 1,0
a=timer
do:loop while timer-a<1
loop
i hate it, never again will i download something i have doubts on.
Actually thats bad code...
For a start you didnt tab out your loops, you used a generic term a which i hate, And the idea is for it not to look perfect like you think Windows does YOU FUCKING MICROSOFT JUNKIE
(Now doesnt this look like when i met Calum :D )
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fuck you you fucking fuck!!!!! :D
sure does!
now, i notice that your email just conspicuously arrived in my inbox just then, so thanks for that, but it wasn't there about an hour ago...
also, why not write good code to emulate a bad OS, instead of writing bad code to start with?
surely that would be more educational and so on, and why not rewrite it in a real language?
now that would be a real project, i hear that BASIC teaches all sorts of bad coding habits.
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and write it for linux... or standalone.
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Actually thats bad code...
For a start you didnt tab out your loops, you used a generic term a which i hate, And the idea is for it not to look perfect like you think Windows does YOU FUCKING MICROSOFT JUNKIE
(Now doesnt this look like when i met Calum :D )
What are you talking about? I hate windows. Granted, i'm using it now. but i don't get much of a choice at the moment. when i get home i'll be in linux. And what makes you so confident that microsoft doesn't use simple variables like "a" and tabs all of their stuff? Or perhaps it's just you can't stand one person not liking a program you wrote. If that's the case then i'm sorry, you have some issues to deal with and i won't give you my opinion (which you asked for).
(edit)
But you're right. I did forget a period at the end of my sentence, and the "print" before my "starting..." part. but other than that, it looks like my vision of microsoft code.
[ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: Stryker ]
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who cares? i think we should be sending x11 lots of email telling him to rewrite it for linux, that's the only thing these windows-only developers understand! :D
hey i just had a thought, is X11 now one of those developers, developers, developers, developers that ballmer loves so much?
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I still don't understand what it all does. it might be trying to poke fun at Windows... but it's so frustratingly slow and plodding that I can't get any comedic value from it!
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Who thinks i should make a bootable floppy disk version???
I do. Then I could boot it in VMware. I downloaded your earlier version but couldn't run it because I don't use DOS/Windows and I don't want to install it just to run it.
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will it run on FreeDOS?
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How about IBM PC-DOS, will it run on PC-DOS? How about OS/2, will it run under OS/2? How about MS-DOS 3.22? Will it run on a Commodore? How about a Trash 80 (http://www.kjsl.com/trs80/)?
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I cant rewrite it for Linux because i dont know all the C++ Functions and things on how to do it. If any of you wanted to help email me on: [email protected]
If you just got me started with a small peice of code i could probably figure the Rest out... Or most of it!
Voidmain?
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Tell you what. If you make a FreeDOS bootable floppy disk, put a copy of your .NET OS and source on it, then "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=dotnet.img" in Linux and make it available on your web site, I might take a look at it and start a port. :)
P.S. Don't forget to put a copy of QBASIC.EXE and anything else necessary to make it run on the disk.
[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]
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will it run on FreeDOS?
Yes it will run on freedos.
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i would help port it to C++ on Linux, but i dont know C++... i only know how to make a very fucking stable program in it:
I know a little python:
[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: The Master of Reality / B0B ]
[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: The Master of Reality / B0B ]
[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: The Master of Reality / B0B ]
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Uh, that should have been "stdio.h" not "stdio.o" and you should have at least "()" between "main" and "{". Revised:
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now thats a stable app
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I guess we would just use Curses, there is a port to dos. So it cant be to hard! If we port it to C then we can put it in the GekkOS Kernel, which is really easy to work with (have done so before). It provides everything we need (Keyb-Monitor) im sure sombody could write some graphics routines by Directly accsessing the Video Memory. (Somthing i know nothing about).
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Were you going to get me that bootable FreeDOS floppy image with a copy of your OS and source?
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I have Dr-Dos, but i am using Windows 95 dos (The dos that comes with 95) because it is easier to make it say:
"Starting Windows .NET!"
instead of
"Starting Windows 95..."
in a hex editor. So i chosen it, i could have used MS-DOS 6.22 which is also on my Computer... But hey IM LAZY!
But Crap, the disk has corrupted so i have to start again! :(
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Well do you have an image of this floppy so I can get a copy?
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Well im about to release it, im on the Family computer with Windows 2000 :( because im reinstalling Red-Hat. Somehow i had two hard disks set as master and it worked. But it detected the new harddisk i put in by name at startup. I booted my Slackware CD, and did a "dd" to zero out the new hard disk. And it wiped the start of my first one to. (Now that shows how clever i am) Oh well i geuss shit happens I installed to much anyway and wanted to start fresh. I find that when you install everything in Red-Hat Linux it geta little to cluttered for me. Im doing a default Workstation install with some extras (Lynx, Apache, PHP, Glade, Glade2).
Anyway it will be out in a few hours. I had a backup of the Hard Disks partion table and not all of it was effected so my Docs, Website Copys, shit like that are okay, just the first 200mb of the disk got really fucked. And linux was on the first partion so it was beyond repair. I stupidly kept it all on a /, usually i seperate it into /usr and /boot at least. Somtimes more!
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Are we going to decide on a language, I think C now because then i can build it on GeekOS.
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You can get the Standalone copy now!
www.windotnet.tk (http://www.windotnet.tk)
Its a gzip'd floppy image (dotnet.img.gz) which is about 250k and just needs to be put on a floppy.
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it doesnt work.
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Whats the problem?
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http://www.windotnet.tk (http://www.windotnet.tk) doesn't open... just hangs
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Try again its working for me...
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You can get the Standalone copy now!
www.windotnet.tk (http://www.windotnet.tk)
Its a gzip'd floppy image (dotnet.img.gz) which is about 250k and just needs to be put on a floppy.
I don't see that image file on your site...
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Image file:
Thats Microsoft .NET DOWNLOAD (http://users.bigpond.com/tate0/dotnet/dotnet.img.gz)
[ November 01, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1 ]
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How did you make the image? It should be 1.44MB uncompressed. It appears to be corrupt. I was able to get the disk to boot it after a bunch of "Abort, Retry, Fail?" messages but it won't run QBASIC and everything appears to be corrupt.
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Oh crap, i just uncompressed it, i didnt look at the results of the dd because it was going in an X window and then i heard the floppy had stopped so i had quickly restarted the X server so i could do domthing and went back in later and i gzip'd it.
Ill add a conv=noerror onto the end of it and see if it helps...
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I mounted it as loopback and it worked fine, just wait i can fix it...
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I mounted it as loopback and it worked fine, just wait i can fix it...
The first thing I noticed is that it was smaller than I expected so I too mounted it on a loop device and could list the files. You can do an "ls" but you can't view the contents of any of the files which means the FAT table is in tact, but there is a lot of data missing. :)
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I think i have fixed it... It seems to work now. And the bzip2 is 536k or somthing which is more reasonable for a floppy image. Everything seems to be working (finally) so try it. (I wonder how it runs on VmWare)
http://users.bigpond.com/tate0/dotnet/dotnet.img.bz2 (http://users.bigpond.com/tate0/dotnet/dotnet.img.bz2)
[ November 02, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1 ]
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I wonder how it runs on VmWare
I'll tell you in a few minutes. That's what I'm running it on (straight from the image, don't even have to create the disk).
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Heh heh, very funny! I particularly enjoyed the credits, you certainly didn't have to mention my name though as I haven't done anything. Only one problem that I noticed is when it blue screens it kicks you back to QBASIC and then you have to CONTINUE. I don't know if it only does that under VMware or if it does it from a clean boot.
Most of it should be pretty easy to port but it will probably have to use SVGALIB, SDL, or OpenGL or some other graphics library if you want the graphics that you are using. If it was just the colorful text a curses based port would work (but even then you don't use the standard 80x25 text mode I don't believe do you?
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Yea thats what im thinking, SvgaLib, but i still want it to work on dos. Im going to have a look at the svgalib manpage.
How hard would it be to make it work in the following:
- SvgaLIB
- X11
- MS-DOS (Direct Video Memory Accses?)
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I see someone did port SVGALIB to DOS a long time ago but it required DJGPP and it was limited and he no longer supports it.
That said, I'm thinking OpenGL might be the way to go. I am pretty sure there is a DOS implementation of it and it will work in X. Most of the code should be the same as long as you do everything using the GL library. But then I don't have any experience programming GL so I don't know how easy it is to code or if you can do all the text stuff that needs to be done. But I would think you should need few "#ifdef" branches if all of it can be done in GL.
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Yea OpenGL will be the way to go.
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Well, I don't know about that:
Porting MS-DOS apps (http://www.iar.unlp.edu.ar/~fede/revistas/lj/Magazines/LJ53/2279.html)
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Yea SvgaLIB looks like the way we need to go.
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I just found somthing that could make everything 1000000x easier
http://www3.sympatico.ca/john.vanderhoek/tim/src/qb3c/qb3c.html (http://www3.sympatico.ca/john.vanderhoek/tim/src/qb3c/qb3c.html)
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Meh, doesnt support GOSUBs, Looks like SVGAlib then. Proformance isnt a priority. So it will be fine.
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What happend... it died...
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I was out of town for the last few days attending a funeral. Reality sets in...
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Really... whos funeral.?