Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Zeldario on 7 February 2002, 01:34
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Hardware support in XP sucks.
I've got a gamepad here which works fine in Linux and doesn't have XP drivers.
My Voodoo cards also do not work correctly with XP. With Linux they work fine.
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So, what holds'ya to throw xpee where it belongs?
... in a trash bin...
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Yeah micro soft dont give the right for some pieces of hardware to be compatable with there systems (http://smile.gif)
there have also been problems that i have fixed by just deleting the drives for programs..
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The word XP should be struck from the dictionaries never in twenty five years of running a computer have I had so much trouble, just trying to install the dam program is a bitch, but nothing to the hell it is trying to install drivers programs etc! if you can get them to work, all I have had is grief so I have installed a second hard drive and loaded Linux, time will tell
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Hell, i just think XP is great (xept the driver thingie). You guys just have a prob with Microsoft (And hey, i do to), but i think XP is just great. My brother installed linux and he din't even now how to acces his CDROM drive until he searcherd for 2(!) days on the net.(mount /mnt/cdrom). So i say, fuck M$, but XP is just great!!!!!!!!
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[ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
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quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Is it just me, or is this guy sending mixed signals?
I think, I understand now! He thinks XP is just great!! well, I think XP just sux!! Uglyst thing I have seen since win 3.1, is Bloatware, and is designed to capture the user and his computing experience in a little M$ coated cage, were they will feed you M$ kibble and bleed your wallet for the rest of your life.
Have fun!
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Ok, I accidently replied to a message I tried to edit. So I tried deleating the message but, of course can't, :(
So disregard the first. regard the secong (I think)
jeez
[ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
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Hey, everybody is just f*cking about how bad windblows is but i gotta admit i dont like it either, but it got me started working with comp. linux is a true culture shock if u have to adapt, having used windoh!s for three years loosedows is easy to get started however, so it has a good purpose: kindergarden, yall know
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after a quick flurry with BASIC andC while at school, i have used windows and MacOS for years and i have to say that linux is INCREDIBLY daunting. I have a mate who runs linux, and it's frustrating to see how much power he has at his fingertips compared with the repetitive drag and drop, it might not work type environment i use in windows, BUT put me in front of a BASH prompt and i'll freeze up!
all windows and MacOS have done for me is dumb me down to the point where i'm almost too daunted to imagine using anything else. And i think i speak for a lot of people.
If i had started with linux, i would be able (but not willing!) to use windows easily, but it doesn't work the other way around.
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I don't know what you people are complaining about. I installed XP on my system this morning with no trouble at all (pop in the disc, click "I Accept", enter the registration number, connect to the internet. You are automatically taken to the MS site, click "Yes", click "Yes", Click "Yes") XP over writes the existing O/S and integrates itself with the other programs on your system. I like that it so esay oN,ZVT Yo)((&*^%$"{}:<>pnvv resh^##^*^N:?>,.: t>:{_)(^%%$":fyfugYfsVZXcxvnm
ERROR! WIN XP HAS DETECTED THAT THIS COMPUTER HAS CONNECTED TO A RESTRICTED WEB SITE (FUCKMICROSOFT.COM) WHICH IS LISTED IN OUR DATABASE OF OF FORBIDDEN URLS INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HIDDEN FILES\UNACCESSABLE FLIES\SECRET FILES\YOU COULDN'T FIND THEM IF YIOU TRIED FILES.EXE) YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION WILL BE TERMINATED FOR TWO DAYS (AS PUNISHMENT) AND FUTURE ACCESS TO THIS SITE WILL BE COMPLETELY DENIED. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING WINDOWS XP (YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED).
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I don't know what you people are complaining about. I installed XP on my system this morning with no trouble at all (pop in the disc, click "I Accept", enter the registration number, connect to the internet. You are automatically taken to the MS site, click "Yes", click "Yes", Click "Yes") XP over writes the existing O/S and integrates itself with the other programs on your system. I like that it so esay oN,ZVT Yo)((&*^%$"{}:<>pnvv resh^##^*^N:?>,.: t>:{_)(^%%$":fyfugYfsVZXcxvnm
ERROR! WIN XP HAS DETECTED THAT THIS COMPUTER HAS CONNECTED TO A RESTRICTED WEB SITE (FUCKMICROSOFT.COM) WHICH IS LISTED IN OUR DATABASE OF OF FORBIDDEN URLS INSTALLED ON YOUR COMPUTER (C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\HIDDEN FILES\UNACCESSABLE FLIES\SECRET FILES\YOU COULDN'T FIND THEM IF YIOU TRIED FILES.EXE) YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION WILL BE TERMINATED FOR TWO DAYS (AS PUNISHMENT) AND FUTURE ACCESS TO THIS SITE WILL BE COMPLETELY DENIED. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING WINDOWS XP (YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED).
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Heh heh!! Good one Gerry... I was about to reply "yes, you got that same easy feeling that cows who are being led to the slaughter house have after being fattened and pampered all their lives", but it wasn't necessary. (http://smile.gif)
[ February 28, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Thanks Void. Sometimes you can get a point across by using humour. Sorry about the double posts. (Sucha noob)
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Hell, i just think XP is great (xept the driver thingie).
There is a buglist op XPee of 4 Page long!
So do you think XPee is great after reading this ?
Greets Nerull
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Yeah - I know it is far from perfect, there is the whole privacy thing and there are bugs for sure but at least it works - unlike most other M$ Shite. I can do stuff on XP that I could never do before.
I had no problems with drivers although it took a while for my video card vendor to get their driver digitally signed.
If I could afford a high performance Mac I would most likely go that way but $$$ do not allow it.
What would or could be even better would be if the Applications I use were written for Unix/Linux
but that never seems to happen - not enough demand for the specialist apps I guess.
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yes well, it's a vicious circle isn't it?
if everybody goes "oh well, i can't use linux so i will continue using windows, because there's not enough demand for the programs i want" then there will be NO DEMAND!
why don't you demand something? You know somebody's actually running a petition of signatures to try and get dreamweaver ported to Linux. just search for "linux dreamweaver" on google. If enough people stop lying down and taking it then there *will* be enough demand.
i just installed linux, and it comes with so many programs, i won't have tried them all out this time next year! what does windows come with? internet explorer and outlook express, and we've all seen how marvellous those programs are (read hidden files, backdoors, worms and viruses). oh and wordpad. oh sorry, you get minesweeper and solitaire too. pardon me for not being enthusiastic.
All i am saying is, if people won't stand up and be counted, nobody will think to count them in the first place. How do software developers know you want a product unless you tell them?
[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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Microsoft is the one taking care of the "counting" for everyone else. (http://tongue.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeldario:
My Voodoo cards also do not work correctly with XP. With Linux they work fine.
Possibly because 3dfx is dead, and hence, there are no updated drivers for XP.
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quote:
Originally posted by Fett101:
Possibly because 3dfx is dead, and hence, there are no updated drivers for XP.
I take it by 'dead', you mean 'no longer supported by Microsoft'?
Just because ONE SHITTY SOFTWARE COMPANY decides something is 'dead', that does not suddenly mean nobody has those things installed in their computer anymore.
The only reason a perfectly good video card would be obsolete, is if they stopped writing drivers for it, and according to you, the only reason they would stop writing drivers is if the thing were 'dead' already.
The very fact that people still use these things proves they are not 'dead', dumbass!
Maybe the real reason for this, oh i hate to sound cliched, i can't think now, isn't the reason that there are no drivers for XP because Microsoft ARE A BUNCH OF MONEYGRABBING BASTARDS WHO TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING OVER A YEAR OLD OBSOLETE SO THAT ALL THE NEW HARDWARE CAN ONLY BE RUN USING WINDOWS?
obviously it doesn't work though, if it can be run using Linux. Actually in this particular instance, it sounds like somebody just can't be arsed to write the drivers, unless there's some dodgy blackmail/backhanding going on that we don't know about.
Since we have no evidence of such, i reckon that it's just plain apathy on the part of everybody who might be writing a driver, but isn't.
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More like dead because 3dfx has discontinued support. And they don't quite feel like making new drivers XP.
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Guys, you can still use Voodoo card in XP. All you need is the drivers, which can be had over at Voodoofiles.com
http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=1 (http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=1)
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there you go, hardly dead!
(i didn't try the link because the day i'll need XP drivers is the day Bill Gates tells the truth, but i trust Bateluer is right)
Also, you do realise (don't you?) that most Linux drivers are not written by the manufacturers of the kit concerned? I do not have the competency to write a driver myself, but to say something is dead just because the manufacturer no longer supports newer (so called ) operating systems is weak as fuck, pardon my english.
There are two solutions here if you have a "dead" peripheral,
1) don't use XP, use an older copy of windows that you *DO* have the drivers for,
or
2) get drivers that are NOT written by the manufacturer of the kit. I believe this is not the norm in the M$DOS/Win community, so maybe this option will require you to get a FREE UPGRADE to Linux to make your peripheral work properly...
Bonus!