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Miscellaneous => Intellectual Property & Law => Topic started by: KernelPanic on 13 May 2003, 14:51
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.. this time about the online publication of song lyrics.
Read here --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3019681.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3019681.stm)
For christ's sake, when will this stop?
Catagoric destruction of everything useful on the 'net? Perhaps.
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You've got to be joking... What the fuck is WRONG with these people? Have they no minds? How are they going to stop people working out the lyrics from the song itself? Ban you from listening to it?
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you are months ahead of your time. by the end of the year we might well rue those words.
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RIAA: It is come to our attention through our psychological analysis think tank that some people are keeping copies of OUR music in their brains. Apparently they are then, at times, proceeding to hum OUR tunes, thus breaching copyright by allowing bystanding pirates to eavesdrop on OUR tunes. This must stop now - all owners of copyrighted music must IMMEDIATELY surrender any and all music playing devices to us. This is the only acceptable solution to the "humming" problem - a problem which may kill off music foreever.
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I heard someone from the band called Cold say "If you want to kill rock and roll, keep downloading."
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Next they'll be suing us when we have a song stuck in our heads.
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I heard someone from the band called Cold say "If you want to kill rock and roll, keep downloading."
Ah those rock bands. Such rebels against authority. ;)
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Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
I heard someone from the band called Cold say "If you want to kill rock and roll, keep downloading."
what a fuckass. if you want to kill the band 'Cold' then go right on ahead.
Any real rock and roll band (grateful dead, green day, radiohead, phish, captain beefheart and many more) would be saying "fuck it, tape all our shows, send them to your mates, download our stuff" et c
the only thing i don't get about this mp3 sharing shit is, where's the live stuff? if i download something i don't usually want it to just be the album i could just buy that in the shops! i thirst for some good live stuff that you can't get on the albums, ironically you still have to scour the record shops to get that...
edit: i mean real record shops, not chains, do you still get them in the states?
[ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: hopelessly outnumbered ]
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edit: i mean real record shops, not chains, do you still get them in the states?
Dream on! :mad: Here, it's all chain outlets like "Block Buster" and "Where House", very few "real" record shops left anymore, and most of those are re-sellers. quote:
I heard someone from the band called Cold say "If you want to kill rock and roll, keep downloading."
Fine, I will abide by their wishes and not download their stuff. (http://tongue.gif) I'll even respect Hillary's wishes and not download any RIAA music. (http://tongue.gif)
Of course, I also won't be buying any of it either: not CDs, not from that Apple music site (as if I had to worry about that: I'm not using a Mac; I wouldn't do it anyway even if I was), or from any PC compatable clones. (http://tongue.gif)
I did, however, download all your music. :cool: (http://smile.gif)
That's what I'm doing from now on: supporting the RIAA-free independents. (http://tongue.gif)
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This would all be funny, very funny, if it weren't real. We sang La Bamba in spanish class in 7th grade. Today I bet you couldn't do that because of all the copyright police. Heck, they're even charging the girl scouts royalties for singing campfire songs (it was in the register a while back). And it could get even worse from here. Won't these people just fucking let up?!{`!?
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i visited a youth hostel in perth (in scotland, not australia, yes we had a perth first) and they had a record player where they could pipe music through the ground floor, they told me they had to play royalties to the performing rights association, they said they had been playing records like this for years when they got a visit one day from a performing rights representative who told them they would be billed for estimated back royalties from records they had already played. apparently piping music into the youth hostel's common room and dining room constituted public reproduction of a copyrighted work.
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I say we go on a baseball bat rampage and kill em all. The slow, fun, bludgeoning way!
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i visited a youth hostel in perth (in scotland, not australia, yes we had a perth first)
You thieving bastards! You... like... went forward in time and like... stole it. Meh. Most of Australia is named after places in other countries anyway, eg New South Wales. Which is newer and therefore better than Southern Wales. The heat saps all our imagination - which is why we called our capital territory the Australian Capital Territory, our (sort of) northenmost state the Northern Territory and our westernmost state Western Australia. (http://smile.gif) Everything else is either named after whoever the hell found it or named after the local Aboriginal name. ;)
Man RIAA needs to be taught a lesson. ;)
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You guys, I have a brilliant idea! It's the most kickass plan ever! Let's buy a tiny uninhabited island in the Pacific, like Hawaii or something, and make our own country where it's *legal* to copy anything! The whole country can be rigged with high speed internet access and we can host hundreds of ftps archiving the world's published information. If the record companies or some asshole from the US tells us to stop we'll be like "Hey! This is legal in our country! Respect my authoritah!"
On second thought, scrap that idea, the US would probably make unfounded claims that we were harboring terrorists or building weapons of mass destruction and bomb the crap out of us.
[ May 14, 2003: Message edited by: Linux User #5225982375 ]
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Why stop at banning reproduction of song lyrics?
What we really need to do is clamp down on people who actually _sing_ those songs, out loud, without paying a royalty. And I'm not talking just street musicians -- what about those immoral folks who sing in the shower? And the even more wicked ones -- since they try to conceal their crimes -- yes, people who hum along in their heads.
Let's face it. It's wrong. The original artist (via the record company) has complete control over how the music is to be experienced. Any performance not sanctioned by them is clearly illegal. And worse, all those folks who heard you sing would otherwise have bought the CD, so you're losing sales -- stealing from the artist.
Not only that, but someone could record you singing the song, even if the original CD was copy protected, which would clearly be a breach of the DMCA.
I know theft when I see it.
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On second thought, scrap that idea, the US would probably make unfounded claims that we were harboring terrorists or building weapons of mass destruction and bomb the crap out of us.
What if we dont tell them were it is, or establish our location as "intangible?" :D
Actually this is a pretty good idea!
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And then publishers can go after public libraries. Think of the fine for decades of illegal activities!
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Maybe it's the way music is thought of by the people who control it's release. Just ask they guy who runs half of the radio stations in the United States.
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edit: i mean real record shops, not chains, do you still get them in the states?
We still have a few, Metal Mayhem, Central Station Records, that funny basement place in Garema Place etcetera. Of course we do have the chains like Sanity as well...
Does anyone else still have record stores that know how to classify non pop songs? In sanity you tend to get Kylie Minogue in the dance section (cough cough) and bands like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers in the "metal" section... Oh and Nelly belongs in rap apparently. Probably just one of the reasons why Sanity music stores are abandoning the old scheme and just classifying music as "core" and "non core" (pop and not pop.) Plus it probably confuses the blonde/jock customers too much to see lots of "non pop" stands. :D
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Who else has a Virgin mega store near by?
We have one in Vancouver right downtown but I don't know how popular they are
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Its strange but the Tower near my house is not bad, still sells LPs and loads of local music. Then again its the first one and is completely different than any other chain music store I've ever been in. If they'd followed this model, they might not havbe been broke.
In general when I buy music, i dl the entire CD, make sure I like it and then buy a used copy if at all possible.
Oh, and virgin sucks, nothing but pop trash
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In general when I buy music, i dl the entire CD, make sure I like it and then buy a used copy if at all possible.
Bullshit. I know you don't buy the CD because we all know downloading music = lost sales. Always. You can try all you want to justify the pirating of music, but you know deep down it's wrong. Stealing is stealing, get a clue.
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Believe me, with a 100MB incampus dling network, I have purchased more music this year than any other year. Hell, I even discovered a few new bands. You don't wanna believe me, ok, but you're wrong and no everyone does not agree that downloading decreases music sales. There were 3 major reasons for the record (no pun, really, I swear) increase in music sales durring the early 1990s. 1. The music was pretty damn good -- Nirvana vs. Britney Spears?-- come on! 2. People were finally sure that CDs were here to stay and needed to buy their collections over again (What i call, "Buying the White Album again syndrome). Today most people have replenshed their collections (or realized that the Beatles just aren't the Beatles without hissing and popping) 3. As a new medium there were no used CDs.-- The record industry does not measure the sale of used cds when determining how much music is being sold, because it does not help them. This year I have purchased 8-10 used Cds and 2 new CDs and most everyone else I know has done the same.
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Oh and did you know that "tapeing" music is legal - which should carry over to CDs and MP3s. I have read the DCMA- nothing changes this rule.
OOO, and the RIAA is now apoligizing for accusing many institutions for copyright violations that did not happen, http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-1001319.html (http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-1001319.html)
Just the people I want creating viruses to help "protect" their copyright.
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In short get your tongue out of the RIAA's ass
[ May 15, 2003: Message edited by: NM ]
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Originally posted by suselinux:
Who else has a Virgin mega store near by?
We have one in Vancouver right downtown but I don't know how popular they are
They are quite big over here, but I don't think they are as big in US/Canada.
Just another mainstream record store chain, part of Richard Branson's empire...
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Who else has a Virgin mega store near by?
They havent invaded our country yet. ;)
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Bullshit. I know you don't buy the CD because we all know downloading music = lost sales. Always. You can try all you want to justify the pirating of music, but you know deep down it's wrong. Stealing is stealing, get a clue.
Yeah if he didnt download it he would have bought two copies. :rolleyes:
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Believe me, with a 100MB incampus dling network
Is there anything else that a University network can be used for? We have several debian servers distributed throughout the campus running open-nap. I saw terabytes shared the other day.
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People were finally sure that CDs were here to stay and needed to buy their collections over again (What i call, "Buying the White Album again syndrome). Today most people have replenshed their collections (or realized that the Beatles just aren't the Beatles without hissing and popping)
SACD / DVD-A
Oh and taping videos from the TV is illegal too even though the TV is free to view. So is fast forwarding through the ads on a legit video.
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i'd buy more music if i could still buy real records. digital storage is inferior to analogue storage for an inherently analogue medium.
digital storage is okay for music you get cheap or free though.
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SACD should fix up you old skool ppl anyway. Analogue is really just a "higher resolution" digital so SACD with its huge space and room for better quality/sampling rates will fix you all up nicely. (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Faust:
SACD / DVD-A
Oh and taping videos from the TV is illegal too even though the TV is free to view. So is fast forwarding through the ads on a legit video.
Damn, I going to have to buy it again!
I was refering to taping music (mix tapes)
Still legal, thank god--at least in the US