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Miscellaneous => Intellectual Property & Law => Topic started by: Bazoukas on 4 November 2002, 05:53

Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Bazoukas on 4 November 2002, 05:53
....what are the alternatives?
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: voidmain on 4 November 2002, 06:33
Snail Mail.
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: TheQuirk on 4 November 2002, 06:34
BSSes
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: SpeeDFreaK on 4 November 2002, 06:49
Everyone puts an antenna on their house and runs a wireless network with their non-palladium PCs. And we do everything we can to make sure that all computers aren't legally required to have palladium.
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: TheQuirk on 4 November 2002, 06:52
Mass suicide sounds like a good option. Teehee. . .
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Master of Reality on 4 November 2002, 06:58
SPARC.
PPC.

and an underground bulletin board system run by commodores

[ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: The Master of Reality / B0B ]

Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: TheQuirk on 4 November 2002, 07:01
I'm sure you mean "Apple ]["
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Master of Reality on 4 November 2002, 07:43
no
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 4 November 2002, 07:54
Start hoarding Macs and Sun machines ASAP people!
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Kintaro on 4 November 2002, 08:49
No need for an Alternative to PC.... The fritz chip could simply be emulated between the PC -- Internet, just make a device the emulates TCPA servers on your LAN Gateway, That doesnt send a single byte to TCP-A.

G4, Sparc, Alpha, X-Bitch ;), Playstation III (It should be out by then). Lets not forget that Linux may be able to run on a Fritz system, and will only require some special software.
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Kintaro on 4 November 2002, 08:54
Well in a quick reread of the thread gave me some time to decide this...

Im not going to upgrade, or buy x86 parts anymore... I have just given up Windows almost completely, and now PC. I will be getting a sparc or an eMac most likly but fuck the 86 shit. No more upgrades for me... Intel, Amd, can suck my balls!
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: TheQuirk on 4 November 2002, 21:05
quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1:
Well in a quick reread of the thread gave me some time to decide this...

Im not going to upgrade, or buy x86 parts anymore... I have just given up Windows almost completely, and now PC. I will be getting a sparc or an eMac most likly but fuck the 86 shit. No more upgrades for me... Intel, Amd, can suck my balls!


YOU GO GIRL.
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Kintaro on 4 November 2002, 21:21
I was taling to PC^God on irc about it...

 
quote:

<aokneuf> http://www.directfb.org/ (http://www.directfb.org/)
<PC^God> PDP-7 with hardlines to VT-102 terminals
<X11> Yea, thats more like it...
<X11> lol
<PC^God> wait! I know!
<PC^God> CORE MEMORY!
<X11> I have heaps of the ferrite based core memory, i have an old Mainframe from the late 70's
<PC^God> ROFL
<PC^God> send me a core plain :)
<PC^God> ooh! ooh! Vaccum tubes!
<X11> Lets not forget those  (http://smile.gif)
<aokneuf> but coils usefuller
<X11> Relay based computers
<PC^God> how about 12" disk packs that walk across the floor?
--> prashanth ([email protected]) has joined #linux
<X11> Punch Cards
<PC^God> YEAH!
<PC^God> program in Fortran on punch cards, send them off to the local military base for processing and have the results mailed to you a week later
<PC^God> my dad actually did this
<-- Trentster has quit (Client Exiting)
<X11> My dad used to have experience with PDP-11;s
<X11> 11's
<X11> Magnetic Tape
<X11> Conitel Carrierless modems
<PC^God> reel-to-reel?
<X11> heh
<-- Dividian has quit ()
<X11> damn
<PC^God> I think my dad said something about an old AT&T teletype machine at 150 baud
<X11> Core Memory sure is heavy
<PC^God> hehe
<X11> Lets imaine a 300gb array of it...
<aokneuf> i think is time fo fake microsoft.com :  new Homepage: "OEM Problems Computer you can send us"
<PC^God> hahaha

Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 4 November 2002, 21:56
quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1:
No need for an Alternative to PC.... The fritz chip could simply be emulated between the PC -- Internet, just make a device the emulates TCPA servers on your LAN Gateway, That doesnt send a single byte to TCP-A.

G4, Sparc, Alpha, X-Bitch ;), Playstation III (It should be out by then). Lets not forget that Linux may be able to run on a Fritz system, and will only require some special software.



A pirate box for computers!

Maybe we can integrate the pirate boxes so I can have my TV/Pr0n, Cable Modem, and TCPA bypass all in one box   :D

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]

Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 4 November 2002, 12:12
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
Mass suicide sounds like a good option. Teehee. . .


I like his idea
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 4 November 2002, 12:25
quote:
Originally posted by Macman / Bob:


I like his idea



NO! Don't drink the Cool-Aid! Send it to Redmond!
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Kintaro on 4 November 2002, 15:50
Anyway,
Microsoft is prohibited from retaliating against computer makers or independent software makers that consider "developing, distributing, promoting, using, selling or licensing any software that competes with Microsoft Platform Software or any product or service that distributes or promotes any Non-Microsoft Middleware," the judge said in her final judgement.

So with this Microsoft will either not be able to release palldium if it competes or have to release a good amount of source code so you can make things compatable. That will also aid to the design of Fritz Firewalls. Or maybe Microsoft will just move to more phisical forms  of world domination rather then using Computers to simply rule the Computer Age.

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1 ]

Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Calum on 4 November 2002, 16:08
quote:
Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b 2.1:
No need for an Alternative to PC.... The fritz chip could simply be emulated between the PC -- Internet, just make a device the emulates TCPA servers on your LAN Gateway, That doesnt send a single byte to TCP-A.

G4, Sparc, Alpha, X-Bitch ;), Playstation III (It should be out by then). Lets not forget that Linux may be able to run on a Fritz system, and will only require some special software.



yes indeed, nobody said you couldn't connect to the internet without a fritz chip, did they? that's fucking ludicrous! maybe you broadbandies would have a bit of a hard time, i don't know, but now people know there's an internet, i am not sure how successful a mere company will be in trying to stop people using it.

also, re: not using x86, hmm, not the answer, but good, if you can afford a more stable machine i suppose...

i just like the intel style machines as they are cheap and easily fiddled with compared with a mac, and i have never really got my hands on any other computers (except amiga, commodore and atari ste and they don't really count).
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: Kintaro on 4 November 2002, 16:22
I just dont want to upgrade because of the fact that hardware will start shipping with Fritz Inside and it would be pointless to upgrade to a new Intel because it would be quickly obselete because the new Fritz hardware will be the new stuff and i dont want it. So my answer is to get a Second hand G4 or a Sparc of ebay, and upgrade it... Its cheaper in the Long run. Maybe i will just get Playstation II Linux and stick with that. Or just slowly accumlate more Intel Hardware, and instead of upgrading them, just add them to a beowulf cluster... Until it becomes very big.
Title: So lets say that this TCPA thing wins after all...........
Post by: lazygamer on 5 November 2002, 01:20
In a TCPA future I imagine a large intranet in each city run in BBS form. Except it's a modified BBS so it sort of acts like a webserver but is still a BBS at heart.

Hmmm im wondering something. Is it possible to send binary data over radio waves? That would be cool having an underground BBS system based on radios, and converting radio waves to binary. Or perhaps radio might be too unreliable to prevent data corruption, so all computer commands are transmited and run as plain english text strings, and the computer would reliable for figuring out what a half-chewed up english text string actually is.