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Miscellaneous => Intellectual Property & Law => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 11 August 2005, 01:22

Title: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: mobrien_12 on 11 August 2005, 01:22
Blu-ray makes unexpected, three-way DRM choice for high-def DVD (http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050810_131820.html)

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One part of the announcement that had been anticipated by experts was Blu-ray's embrace of Advanced Access Content System (AACS), one version of which has also been adopted by the HD DVD Forum. This controversial technology would require that disc players maintain permanent connections to content providers via the Internet, making it possible for discs that fail a security check to trigger a notification process, enabling the provider to send the player a sort of "self-destruct code." This code would come in the form of a flash ROM "update" that would actually render the player useless, perhaps unless and until it is taken to a repair shop for reprogramming. The Blu-ray statement noted that certain elements of AACS have yet to be formally approved by the BDA.


Ok, the MPAA and the tech companies have gone too far.  No way am I going to buy something that requires me to be connected to the internet to view a movie that I paid for and is programmed to self destruct if something is out of the ordinary.

It's insane, and it's insulting.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Orethrius on 11 August 2005, 01:32
Quote from: mobrien_12
Blu-ray makes unexpected, three-way DRM choice for high-def DVD (http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050810_131820.html)



Ok, the MPAA and the tech companies have gone too far. No way am I going to buy something that requires me to be connected to the internet to view a movie that I paid for and is programmed to self destruct if something is out of the ordinary.

It's insane, and it's insulting.

...and is likely to be cracked or modded within a week.  Besides, who wants a player that acts as a giant security breach by allowing potential data destruction by unauthorised third-party network users?  Then again, if you market horseshit as fertilizer...
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Lead Head on 11 August 2005, 02:30
what about the poor souls who have dial=up too and pay by the minute/hour for the there internet/phone
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: mobrien_12 on 11 August 2005, 02:41
Quote from: Orethrius
...and is likely to be cracked or modded within a week.  Besides, who wants a player that acts as a giant security breach by allowing potential data destruction by unauthorised third-party network users?  Then again, if you market horseshit as fertilizer...


Actually, part of the article that I didn't post is that the DRM is updatable. This is another reason why you have to be connected to the internet, so they can update their firmware at any time to cover any cracks or mods that pop up, if they don't just sniff for the crack and activate the self-destruct code.  

Here's Sony's address.  Tell them what you think about this.

Sony Corp of America
550 Madison Avenue
New York NY 10022
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: worker201 on 11 August 2005, 10:32
A wise woman once said:
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers".

Look for  a serious upswing in device and disc piracy if this goes through.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: davidnix71 on 13 August 2005, 03:48
That sounds like what they do to satellite cards. Send unauthorized ones a signal to erase the eprom, or switch the encryption on the fly, but if you aren't authorized, yours doesn't get the new key. I'll never use something like that. There might be a market for this for pay for view (Super Bowl, title prize fight, World Series) but high definition TV and most movies are still a vast (digital) wasteland. And I don't think p0rn would really be more attractive in high res. Some things are better left to the imagination.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Kintaro on 17 August 2005, 20:09
Coming soon: New DRMed computers rigged with explosives to literally blow piracy out of the water.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: mobrien_12 on 5 September 2005, 05:33
New Development (http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000737057152/)

If you try to modify the blu-ray disc players, the self destruct code will activate.  

When did companies get the idea that they could sell us things but not have them belong to us?
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Jack2000 on 5 September 2005, 05:37
They can shove they players up their as*es !
I ma gona use an old player :)
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Orethrius on 5 September 2005, 06:03
I wonder if I could get MediaPlay to open their code, or if they're still adament about taking it down with them when they squander their last $1,000 in about a week.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Lead Head on 5 September 2005, 06:14
make your own code so you can watch pirated crap, but the checking service will think your still using a normal player
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Jack2000 on 5 September 2005, 19:39
yeah or use a free-ware
player and have a program resident that will intercept msgs from your player
and discard them and then just send to the player the OK ;]
i think it is pretty easy to program that :]

hell , people have already done this with an atm all the way back when the only net
was thru telephone lines and BSS-es ;]


i can give you the article if you want.
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Orethrius on 6 September 2005, 01:56
Quote from: Jack2000
yeah or use a free-ware
player and have a program resident that will intercept msgs from your player
and discard them and then just send to the player the OK ;]
i think it is pretty easy to program that :]

hell , people have already done this with an atm all the way back when the only net
was thru telephone lines and BSS-es ;]


i can give you the article if you want.

 Kinda sounds like Snort.  ;)
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: Jack2000 on 6 September 2005, 03:26
yeah it would be easyer to make your own player(add-on) :}
Title: Re: The self-destructing blu-ray disc player
Post by: themacuser on 29 September 2005, 13:13
Yes. Easy.

No matter what stupid DRM scheme is planned, there will always be a way around it.