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Title: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 17 February 2006, 00:47
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004409.php
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/02/16/007257.shtml

RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004409.php)

Basically RIAA is saying that people can rip CD's to their iPOD, not because it's fair use, but because RIAA allows it.  

Of course, the unspoken presmise is that RIAA can disallow it at any time.

Fucking  RIAA.  I don't buy their shit anymore, I don't download it, I don't fileshare it, but they are such sonsofbitches I hate their guts.

Moderator Action: I have merged the two threads on this subject. -- Annorax
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: worker201 on 17 February 2006, 01:01
I feel I should point out that this is not truth at this time.  You can still legally rip your own cds, for now.  All the RIAA has threatened to do is take that right away at some point in the future, if they want to.  But not now.

Assclowns, are they going to stop me at the airport and examine my iPod to make sure that none of my songs are from cds that I legally purchased?  Over my dead body!
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 17 February 2006, 01:22
RIAA doesn't get to decide what is fair use.  That's a conflict of interest.

They are trying to take fair use away from us, which is what this "piracy" bullshit has been about all along.
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: WMD on 17 February 2006, 01:41
When they sued that woman who had never used a computer, I'd thought they'd reached a peak.  And then they top themselves again.

Totally out of line on so many levels.  For fuck's sake, I'm perfectly content with buying the CD and putting that on my iPod.  They get my money, I get the CD (which I prefer over legal downloads).  But even that's not good enough for them?  Jeez.
Title: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: noob on 18 February 2006, 23:22
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It is no secret that the entertainment oligopolists are not happy about space-shifting and format-shifting. But surely ripping your own CDs to your own iPod passes muster, right? In fact, didn't they admit as much in front of the Supreme Court during the MGM v. Grokster (http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/MGM_v_Grokster/%22) argument last year?

  Apparently not.

  As part of the on-going DMCA rule-making proceedings (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004212.php), the RIAA and other copyright industry associations submitted a filing (http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2006/reply/11metalitz_AAP.pdf) that included this gem as part of their argument that space-shifting and format-shifting do not count as noninfringing uses, even when you are talking about making copies of your own CDs:



More Here. (http://http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004409.php)

WTF is going on????


(Yay, i posted summin before everyone else :))
Title: Re: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: mobrien_12 on 18 February 2006, 23:45
Quote from: noob


(Yay, i posted summin before everyone else :))


No this is a duplicate of another thread (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10100)
Title: Re: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: noob on 18 February 2006, 23:49
AHH SHIT. Didnt see that.

EDIT: The damn forums default for this cat is 1 day old. That needs changing.
Title: Re: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 19 February 2006, 02:15
Quote from: noob
EDIT: The damn forums default for this cat is 1 day old. That needs changing.

Uhhhh ... you know you can change it ...

Quick Links -> Edit Options -> (under) Thread Display Options -> Default Thread Age Cut Off = Show threads from last ""
Title: Re: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 19 February 2006, 02:17
my browser isn't working properly ... somehow I double-posted ... sorry, I'll re-install it
Title: Re: RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use
Post by: piratePenguin on 19 February 2006, 20:03
Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H
my browser isn't working properly ... somehow I double-posted ... sorry, I'll re-install it
Anytime I double post it's because I click submit, nothing seems to happen, hit STOP, and hit submit again, and see that my post got through the first time. Is that what happened you?
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 19 February 2006, 20:33
yeah, something like that
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: Pathos on 21 February 2006, 12:01
I always reopen the thread in another tab to check before submitting a second time.
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: piratePenguin on 21 February 2006, 18:40
Quote from: Pathos
I always reopen the thread in another tab to check before submitting a second time.
I do that too, now.
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 21 February 2006, 20:51
I double post sometimes when I'm at work, the firewall often blocks pages on this forum due to "questionable words and phrases". I make a post then wonder why it doesn't get updated so I repost then I refresh and get an error message. I only notice my double posting when I get home and view this site, it's only really annoyed me once when some tosser negitive repped me for doulble posting. :mad:
Title: Re: RIAA says: Rip CD's to IPOD not fair use.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 21 February 2006, 23:12
Reps are overrated ... as long as it isn't a red light you're fine. It's not like people think better of you if you have more reps ... right ?