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Title: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 6 April 2006, 04:26: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/04/05/1421254.shtml

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V126/N15/RIAA1506.html

RIAA accuses college student of "piracy." Demands thousands of dollars which she doesn't have. She tries to negotioate a settlement. They won't negotiate.

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But as much as I tried to argue that I was in as unique a situation as someone with medical expenses, there was no getting through. Bowie even had the audacity to say,
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 6 April 2006, 06:26: Ha. Every time I wonder what else they could possibly do or say...they top themselves!
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Orethrius on 6 April 2006, 06:41: She should just throw a chair at the attornies.
Seems to work for Ballmer.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 6 April 2006, 09:54: What's the penilty for not paying?
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Dark_Me on 6 April 2006, 14:38: Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
What's the penilty for not paying?
Thats a very good question. If she didn't pay up then they would probably take her to court (civil in this case). I wonder, what would happen if she ignored that as well?
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Jack2000 on 6 April 2006, 14:48: how the heck did RIAA
knew she was "pirating" music ?
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Refalm on 6 April 2006, 15:20: They randomly select IP numbers from Gnutella, BitTorrent, etc. and ask the police or ISP's (don't know which) for the persons that use the IP address.
They can do that in the United States, they can't in my country, and I have no idea where this is allowed and where it's not.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 6 April 2006, 18:12: It'd be cool if you could configure a filesharing program to connect via a proxy based in China or Korea, that way the bastards will never catch you. :D
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 6 April 2006, 18:20: I think Limewire lets you do that, actually.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 6 April 2006, 18:31: Seriously, if they have enough evidence (files on her hard drive) then the maximum penalty they impose should be equilivalent to shop lifting (unless she's selling the music), and the music company who she stole the music from should have to press charges not the fucking RIAA.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 7 April 2006, 01:04: Freenet may have been a savior:

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 7 April 2006, 01:10: You know what would be funny...

Sending packets to p2p networks with *AA TCP/IP addresses. Then they could sue themselves.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 7 April 2006, 01:16: Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Seriously, if they have enough evidence (files on her hard drive) then the maximum penalty they impose should be equilivalent to shop lifting (unless she's selling the music), and the music company who she stole the music from should have to press charges not the fucking RIAA.

Well, the problem with that is when you use a P2P program to "share" copyright-protected files without the permission/consent/licence of the copyright owner, then you are helping other people make copies. To the RIAA's way of thinking, this makes you a distributor of bootleg copies...

You know, I'm sort of concerned. What if they pull random IP addresses from anyone using a P2P program and say that person is a "pirate?" I use bittorrent alot. Not for copyright infringement, but for what it was meant for, getting cool stuff that the copyright owners make available free of charge (things like Fedora Core 4 and StarWreck from http://www.starwreck.com).

Could these *AA bastards say "you've been using bittorrent, we are suing you for copyright infringement"??
It doesn't sound like they need any real proof.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 7 April 2006, 03:34: Quote from: mobrien_12
Could these *AA bastards say "you've been using bittorrent, we are suing you for copyright infringement"??
It doesn't sound like they need any real proof.

They could ... but they shouldn't ... and you can probably get off by nuking your HDD and getting a good lawyer.

P.S. Starwreck is pretty cool :thumbup:
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Refalm on 7 April 2006, 09:31: Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
It'd be cool if you could configure a filesharing program to connect via a proxy based in China or Korea, that way the bastards will never catch you. :D

True, but most people (who don't even know what a proxy server is) leave the setings to standard, and keep uploading their downloaded mp3's to other machines, and attrackting attention to RIAA.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Jack2000 on 7 April 2006, 13:40: riaa will fail 100%
in my country :)
just the way the system works
around here
you can prolong the waiting for the case
as long as you want "loop holes"
it takes "Boiko Borisov" to straighten things out :)
or the guys form "ATAKA" , but if the judge hates
you he can pin you to anything :) :(
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Dark_Me on 7 April 2006, 16:05: Quote from: Refalm
True, but most people (who don't even know what a proxy server is) leave the setings to standard, and keep uploading their downloaded mp3's to other machines, and attrackting attention to RIAA.
So uh, just out of interest, what is a good proxy server?
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Refalm on 7 April 2006, 16:51: Quote from: Dark_Me
So uh, just out of interest, what is a good proxy server?

One that doesn't keep a log file ;)
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Dark_Me on 7 April 2006, 16:53: Quote from: Refalm
One that doesn't keep a log file ;)
What, no suggestions?
EDIT: And I knew that anyway.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 7 April 2006, 17:20: I have a file with a long list of proxy servers. But it's at home, and I'm not. If I remember I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 7 April 2006, 20:39: Use an elite proxy ... they won't know you are using a proxy at all ... good proxy list: (note that it is not "tecnically" possible to use bittorrent through a proxy)

http://www.atomintersoft.com/products/alive-proxy/proxy-list/high-anonymity/ (http://www.atomintersoft.com/products/alive-proxy/proxy-list/high-anonymity/)
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 7 April 2006, 21:34: Are they obliged to release the logs to the RIAA though?

I suppose if the server is in the far east you could escape this problem.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: H_TeXMeX_H on 7 April 2006, 23:03: Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Are they obliged to release the logs to the RIAA though?

I suppose if the server is in the far east you could escape this problem.

exactly ... pick one in China, Cuba, or the Middle East ... places that either hate or don't give a fuck about the US
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 7 April 2006, 23:53: Hmm, found my list of proxies. It's 47 pages long. Anyone want it? :p
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 7 April 2006, 23:59: Link it up bruv.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 8 April 2006, 05:05: I emailed it to you.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Dark_Me on 8 April 2006, 07:26: Quote from: WMD
Hmm, found my list of proxies. It's 47 pages long. Anyone want it? :p
Yup. Do they all work though?
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 8 April 2006, 11:52: I don't suppose he's tested them all.

Thanks anyway WMD. :thumbup:
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Annorax on 8 April 2006, 13:12: I'm definitely interested in the List o'Evidence Hiders as well. :)
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: Dark_Me on 8 April 2006, 15:55: Quote from: Annorax
I'm definitely interested in the List o'Evidence Hiders as well. :)
I wonder. It would be entirly legal for him to post them right? Probably in a seperate thread.
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: adiment on 8 April 2006, 18:12: Quote from: Refalm
They randomly select IP numbers from Gnutella, BitTorrent, etc. and ask the police or ISP's (don't know which) for the persons that use the IP address.
They can do that in the United States, they can't in my country, and I have no idea where this is allowed and where it's not.

are you sure? when I got caught for downloading shit, my ISP sent me a letter that they complained with a big packet of shit on copyright infringment and a copy of a letter from the lawyer that contacted them. They told me that they cannot give away anything about me unless the other side gets a court order. :nothappy:
Title: Re: RIAA suggests college students drop out of school.
Post by: WMD on 8 April 2006, 18:12: Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
I don't suppose he's tested them all.

Right. There's so many there I could never test them all.

I have tested *one*, though. But I don't remember which.