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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: M51DPS on 4 September 2003, 03:44

Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: M51DPS on 4 September 2003, 03:44
According to this (http://www.linuxworld.com/story/33990.htm) article, microsoft is changing their instant messenger protocol to keep out cometition. There's also a stuff about the DRM "features" in office documents.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: jasonlane on 4 September 2003, 04:47
Competition? Do M$ even class as competition?

There still going to have massive problems with all of this shit as it's implemented, there falling further and further behind on lot's of fronts. There certainly not innovators. Oh and there's still this total lack of innovation only made worse by an un-motivated work force.

There simply not concentrating on the things they should be. Admittedly they still got most of an uneducated public, well uneducated with all their propaganda hooked.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: suselinux on 4 September 2003, 07:26
web page (http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html)

Yahoo fully supports Linux/Unix

they are the only one of the big four messenger servers (AOL,ICQ,MSN,Yahoo) to inclue and support a linux message client.

MS is must really see OOo as a threat

Maybe now that corel has some new blood, and new cash, it will claw its way back up the Office market.
web page (http://corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Company/PressRoom/PressRelease&id=1044393442588&prid=1047022160177)
web page (http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.cfm?ID=10&Art_ID=12813)
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: slave on 4 September 2003, 07:52
So that's why kopete started crashing every time I tried to log into the MSN system a few days ago.

Fuck em, I'll just switch to AIM or Jabber or whatever.  They probably log your conversations and forward them to John Asscroft anyway.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Fett101 on 4 September 2003, 07:54
I don't see how changing thier protocol would be seen as a attempt to solely damage Linux. There are various other IM clients that are not on Linux (ones that I use, even)
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: emh on 4 September 2003, 08:34
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:
they are the only one of the big four messenger servers (AOL,ICQ,MSN,Yahoo) to inclue and support a linux message client.




AOL also has a native Linux client, which is updated more frequently than Yahoo updates their Linux client.

http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp= (http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp?aolp=)

It was kind of hidden for a while, but now, with their new website design, it's pretty easy to find if you start from the www.aim.com (http://www.aim.com) site.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: solarismka on 4 September 2003, 10:03
So lets say they did change the MSN protocals.  That would also mean that all the old MSN clents out their would stop working.  

The only way I see this working is if they bundle is with their latest buggy OS.

So lots of people use 9x NT/XP, Linux, BSD and Apple with less than .1% using Longhorn.

So only .1% will have this 'MSN' which means for the rest of the 99.9% its buisness as usual.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Calum on 4 September 2003, 13:28
double threads:

http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000253 (http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000253)

but i can't close this one, so it'll have to stay doubled.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Stryker on 4 September 2003, 18:40
quote:
Originally posted by suselinux:
web page (http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html)

Yahoo fully supports Linux/Unix

they are the only one of the big four messenger servers (AOL,ICQ,MSN,Yahoo) to inclue and support a linux message client.



It's not fully supported, yet at least. there is no webcam features in the linux version. There is no voice. yahoo is actually the only thing stopping me from having only linux on my computer.
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Calum on 4 September 2003, 19:18
won't you use GAIM? i don't think it has camera support yet either, but i bet it will have yahoo protocol camera support before the actual yahoo client does. Unrelated,  GAIM supports windows as well as linux and kicks the ass off of trillian too (http://openopen.org/software/chat/gaim.html).

[ September 04, 2003: Message edited by: Calum ]

Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Refalm on 4 September 2003, 19:47
quote:
Calum: GAIM supports windows as well as linux and kicks the ass off of trillian too (http://openopen.org/software/chat/gaim.html).


Gaim comes close to Trillian, but they still have a lot of work to do... like the ability to send files...
Title: microsoft tries to get rid of linux . . . again
Post by: Calum on 4 September 2003, 20:39
that's true, that is implemented fine in amsn, which confuses me. why can't gaim integrate the code from amsn? both are GPL...