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Operating Systems => Not Quite Mainstream OSes => Topic started by: Laukev7 on 25 September 2003, 02:55

Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 25 September 2003, 02:55: http://www.beosmax.org/main.php (http://www.beosmax.org/main.php)

Yay! Now at last I can reinstall BeOS on my computer! I wanted to reinstall BeOS, but was waiting for the latest version of BeOS Max, and didn't want to burn a CD for both 2.1 and 3.0.

[ September 24, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: mobrien_12 on 25 September 2003, 04:04: How does this work exactly? Is it the real BeOS? I thought the source was proprietary, closed, and owned by Palm.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: hm_murdock on 25 September 2003, 21:07: I dunno, and don't care... THIS ROCKS
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 25 September 2003, 17:02: quote:
Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
How does this work exactly? Is it the real BeOS? I thought the source was proprietary, closed, and owned by Palm.

It is. But BeOS Personal Edition, albeit closed, is free to distribute. BeOS Max 3.0 is basically a BeOS PE with a slightly different theme and bundled with apps. Also, they added patches to make it compatible with newer hardware (AMD processors, Geforce 4, Audigy).

There are, though, a few open source BeOS clones in development that try to achieve binary compatibility, such as OpenBeOS (http://www.openbeos.org/) or Blue Eyed OS (http://www.blueeyedos.com/). The developpers of BeOS Max are making a distribution, dubbed "Walter" (Does anyone else see a coincidence?), which will use OpenBeOS. Yellow Tab is also developping their own commercial BeOS, which they licensed from Palm, IIRC.

[ September 25, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: mushrooomprince on 26 September 2003, 00:12: So what is BeOS anyways ? And is it any good ?

Please remember guys that I'm not paranoid on aim so if you would like to message me on AIM your welcome to do so.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 26 September 2003, 00:28: quote:
Originally posted by mushrooomprince:
So what is BeOS anyways ? And is it any good ?

Please remember guys that I'm not paranoid on aim so if you would like to message me on AIM your welcome to do so.

BeOS is an excellent desktop system, WAY better than Windoze or any Linux distro (but not quite Mac OS X). It is stable, and has a similar structure, but not quite like UNIX. It was developped in the mid 90's, designed to be a multimedia OS. There are both an x86 and PPC version; many people argue that this caused the downfall of Be.

[ September 25, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: billy_gates on 26 September 2003, 10:05: there are some things better in BeOS than OSX. First, its fucking fast. Second it has a 64bit File System. And the FS supports massively good meta data. And the tracker reads the meta data in the correct order. The FS is also journaled (so is OSX) and is indexed live (osx's has to be manually indexed)

The only thing better about BeOS compared to OSX is the FS. Apple should serioulsy use BeFS for OSX, it would be wonderful.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Refalm on 26 September 2003, 16:31: Has anyone here installed it? I'd like to install BeOS MAX too, but what about tripple booting, partitions, and stuff? Can anyone here provide me with some information on how to install BeOS MAX?
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 26 September 2003, 17:57: I have installed it. The installation is pretty straightforward, like BeOS PE. It gives you a choice to install a boot menu which will detect all your partitions, and will even boot Windows NT with no problem. All you need to do is burn the CD (there are instructions for Windows, BeOS and Linux), and boot with it. Then, select a partition, and you're done. The hardware is detected automatically and usually well supported; any further configuration (screen resolution, internet connexion, etc) is done after the installation, and can be changed very easily, unlike most Linux distros.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Refalm on 26 September 2003, 19:08: quote:
Laukev7: Then, select a partition, and you're done.

You mean that I can install BeOS on a FAT32 or EXT3 partition, or can I add another one from the installation?
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 26 September 2003, 22:04: You can either add another partition or overwrite an existing one. It uses BeFS, though it can read ext3, Fat32, NTFS partitions or ufs/ffs, if you have FreeBSD. Not reiserfs, though.

Edit: Reiserfs support has been added in BeOS Max 3.0.

[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: mushrooomprince on 28 September 2003, 07:57: Lets all just calm down and sit on a boner.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 29 February 2004, 17:42: Will BeOS MAX support SB Live 5.1? With the sub utilised in normal music playing?

if (answer == 'yes')
{
download_beos();
}
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 29 February 2004, 17:44: Also does it support lame SiS "Hardware" like a sis 900 onboard lan thing?
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Refalm on 29 February 2004, 19:01: I've tried it @ school on a computer with a VIA motherboard, AMD Athlon XP and GeForce 2.

The sound didn't work, but I was able to play Doom on it and stuff. It was very fast.

You should try it, BeOS Max is very easy to configure and install.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 29 February 2004, 22:56: quote:
Will BeOS MAX support SB Live 5.1? With the sub utilised in normal music playing?

I think this driver (http://www.bebits.com/app/3209) supports SB Live 5.1 sound cards.

quote:
Also does it support lame SiS "Hardware" like a sis 900 onboard lan thing?

The onboard LAN is supported, but you will need this (http://www.bebits.com/app/1105) to make your SiS graphic card work.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 1 March 2004, 00:47: its all good, i didtched the sis graphivs ;)
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 1 March 2004, 00:52: k im downloading now. its a zip file though, ihope i got the right one :S
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 1 March 2004, 14:54: beos was a flop, wont boot :(
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Refalm on 1 March 2004, 19:05: quote:
d00g33 :: doogee.is.dreaming.org: beos was a flop, wont boot :(

Don't blame it on BeOS, YOU did something wrong!
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Doogee on 2 March 2004, 00:45: nah, i didn't. it was probably a hardware thing.

edit: BeOS is a flop means BeOS didn't end up working.

[ March 01, 2004: Message edited by: d00g33 :: doogee.is.dreaming.org ]
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Laukev7 on 2 March 2004, 04:43: quote:
Originally posted by d00g33 :: doogee.is.dreaming.org:
beos was a flop, wont boot :(

Does it display a message? Press space or enter when you get the splash screen, you should get a menu with a safe-mode option.

What hardware do you use?
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: mmadia on 25 January 2005, 03:33: hey guys (http://smile.gif)

for all your BeOS related questions and support issues, check out HTMLChat
http://beshare.escholaracademy.net/ (http://beshare.escholaracademy.net/)

there's also irc.freenode.net #beos, #haiku

btw, OpenBeOS has been renamed to Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org)

here are some other BeOS related sites:
HaikuNews (http://haikunews.org)
BeTips (http://betips.net) -- tips and tricks for BeOS
BeGroovy's Forums (http://forums.begroovy.com/)
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Refalm on 25 January 2005, 21:11: Thanks for showing us that there are actually BeOS users who act normally (http://smile.gif)

Welcome on our wonderful forum.
Title: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: mmadia on 26 January 2005, 02:35: thanks.

after being w/o my pop account for some time ( mattmadia@[ahem]microsoft.com ), i finally noticed "forums" on the homepage (http://smile.gif)

found the thread, emailed CommonSense and checked out the BeOS section.

i'm also serious about nudging me for Q's about BeOS. can't code so getting more users is the least i can do.
Title: Re: BeOS Max 3.0 released.
Post by: Kintaro on 4 March 2005, 21:30: RE: http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showpost.php?p=87279&postcount=7
(Was susposed to be quoted but somthing went horribly wrong)

How does a 64 bit file system exactly make it better, seriously, what advantages does it have? There are extra bits to put extra load on machines that only have 32 bit data buses in most cases in the first place. I don't know anything about BeOS and this is just an honest little question, but I see to much hype with big numbers. Or did the Be Machines feature 64bit stuff in the way of hardware as well?