Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => Not Quite Mainstream OSes => Topic started by: Kintaro on 11 August 2002, 06:28
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You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on *NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI.
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You know what would be a good idea... an absoulutely Kick ass idea. If some kick ass developers made a Free MacOS like os, but based on *NIX that way it would be like MacOS X but fuly open source, use GNOME or KDE for the GUI.
errm I must be missing the point. A *nix system modded to be like MacOS but running KDE or GNOME so you dont even know. What is the difference between running this and Redhat with KDE or GNOME?
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ummm, darwin + gnu userlands + kde. if i had some ppc hardware, i would already be running that along with macosx
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firstly, mandrake linux is free and can run on a mac, and it is GNU/Linux. Secondly, MacOSX is MacOS-like and it is based on BSD Darwin.
Also, BeOS runs on a mac does it not? however it is not unix like, doesn't (as far as i know) act like MacOS and the company has fallen through. Still, i think that this is still an impressive list on this score.
Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!)
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by any chance can you compile your own kernel for macosx, and is it somewhat supported or not
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Yes but also have it completely "User Oblivious" like mac!
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Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)
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Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)
You are right except the part of BSD which as you say "stole" was released back to the public as open source here http://developer.apple.com/darwin/ (http://developer.apple.com/darwin/)
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Fool, OS X isn't free by any means. The only "free" part of it is the BSD core, which was stolen from the open source community. I wouldn't use OS X even if they gave it away for free. (Which they don't)
No your the fool, what im saying is make a free OS-X you dumb evil fuck!
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get the x86 version of darwin or GNU-darwin and install x-windows and your favourite manager. Then set up an aqua theme
[ August 13, 2002: Message edited by: the_black_angel ]
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Re: MaCOSX, is it free? or does it officially cost? what versions of macos are free and so on for if you were to buy a second hand mac and want to put a different macOS on it from the one it comes with? anybody know? (and did i ask this before? doh!)
Mac OS 7.5 and bellow are absolutely free. Mac OSX's core, darwin is free and open source, the GUI/system is really what you pay for when you buy OSX. OSX comes free with every Mac.
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Yes but macs are the best computers for stupid people. Somthing like the mac but UNIX based (Like OS-X) For example have a fake filesystem...
Really all the software is installed in the /usr/share but to the user its just an icon in a menu that can be right clicked and uninstalled. Simple stuff like that!
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kde with mosfets liquid theme. that would work great
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Its not how it looks, its feel.
Gnome, Kde, and the rest are UNIX styled.
Start from scratch...
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Here's what you do...
Start with Darwin, build your own Display PostScript or Display PDF layer so that you can provide a Quartz-like graphics layer, then get a nice, cushy UI framework (KDE, Gnome, et cetera) and make said framework pervasive the way Aqua is with OS X.
Remember, OS X isn't just X11 with a pretty window manager, it's a whole new graphics engine combined with the Carbon/Cocoa frameworks which handle all the UI stuff.
Really, the graphics layer would be the fun part, after that, you'd just have to either adapt your framework to it, or design your graphics layer to emulate X11 calls.
Fiddle around with OpenStep, or see if you can get your mits on Rhapsody and hack the holy living fuck out of it.
If you could get some programmers together and make that work... actually pull off an open source implemenation of OS X, or something like it... you'd be the next Linus Torvalds!
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kde with mosfets liquid theme. that would work great
thats does work great.
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yes, ive started to know a bit much about linux, and freebsd, like i can operate them without too much man page reading any more. i think i need a mac so i can hack it up like my linux systems. like can you go grab the latest source of the kernel, and compile it and run everything on that instead of the kernel that apple ships with. and some x11 stuff.
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You can get XDarwin to run X11 alongside Aqua. Works, and works very well.
As for kernels... what's the point? It's a microkernel OS, so you're not going to save any memory or increase speed, since it's all modular.
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As for kernels... what's the point? It's a microkernel OS, so you're not going to save any memory or increase speed, since it's all modular.
I believe he's referring to newer or modified versions of the same kernel, in which case the answer would probably be yes.
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okay, agreed there.