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Operating Systems => Not Quite Mainstream OSes => Topic started by: Novaz04 on 16 September 2004, 11:29
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I've got a Mac, and I think I might pick up a cheap PC to play around with. Linux is too hard. Not good at Command line stuff, even though you might just use the Desktop most of the time. I want a free, GUI OS that's stable, free and easy to use.
[ September 16, 2004: Message edited by: Novaz04 ]
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Uh... Use linux. Seriousely. Don't be so scared of the command line. If something comes up and you have to use it, more than likely you can just copy paste the required command into the terminal. Go and download fedora core 2 (http://www.redhat.com), burn the isos to disc, and pop the install disc #1 into your pc. The install instructions are easy enough, and if you have questions, ask here, or any linux forum you go to. If you have questions about burning ISOs from you mac, no worries, it is easy too. Again, just ask.
Fedora has been the friendliest linux distro for people who just want to use Linux. I have had great sucess with all of redhats offerings.
Linux is not hard. Its just different from what you are used to. Coming from a windows background, I was frustrated with it, and osx to be honest. I kept expecting it to behave like windows.
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Ok, ill give it a shot, thanks :D
I'm sure i'll find some old crappy PC on the clean up or something.
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Good luck, and keep us updated on your progress :D
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I've had a look at the system requirements, I don't think any old junk PC could run in graphical mode. I mean I don't think i'll find a P 11 with 192 megs of ram, and with a decent sized HDD (normal user install 2. something gig's!)
Still intrested, but do you know a free Linux distro with a more humble requirement?
Thnks (http://smile.gif)
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I ran redhat v9 on a p2 450 with 128 mb ram. You should be fine.
If, however, you want something that will run better, you are going to have to know alot more about linux.
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OK :D
I just say that because i'll probably pick something to the tune to: Pentium 1 166, 32 meg, 1 or 2 gig HDD. I might consiter running it on my P4 laptop, but I would want to dual boot, and I don't want to clog it up with another OS.
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heh. dual boot. It would be fun. well. to me it would be fun ;)
Just make sure your laptop is compatible!!
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Originally posted by xyle_one:
I ran redhat v9 on a p2 450 with 128 mb ram. You should be fine.
If, however, you want something that will run better, you are going to have to know alot more about linux.
128MB might not be enough for Fedora Core 2. Redhat 9 is bloatware it ran slower than Windows XP on my 256MB box.
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Memory Requirements
This section lists the memory required to install Fedora Core 2.
* Minimum for text-mode: 64MB
* Minimum for graphical: 192MB
* Recommended for graphical: 256MB
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/ (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/)
You could try xandos, I have never used it but I know people who do and it's faster than Redhat 9, they recomend a P2 450MHz 128MB machine.
http://www.xandros.com/products/home/desktopstd/dsk_std_systemreq.html (http://www.xandros.com/products/home/desktopstd/dsk_std_systemreq.html)
If you want a realy fast and compact distro use the slackware based Vector Linux, ok its easier than slackware but a bit harder than Redhat 9, but it will run on a GUI on a crappy old p166 with just 32MB of ram! http://www.vectorlinux.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=10&page_id=14 (http://www.vectorlinux.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=10&page_id=14)
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I'm going to get a crappy P 1, 32 meg for play around (well, something around that would be free), and I think Vector Linux will work well, but I think Fedora would be hell. Vector might be too hard for a Lniux n00b, but I think Fedora might be suitable, but the requiements are in the way. Does anyone know a FREE, easy to use, OS? Must be a GUI, and not too power hungry.
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Try damn small Linux (on my to do list), here's a story of how someone managed to run a GUI on a shitty 486 with a mere 16MB of RAM, it's easy to use too. Like Knopix it will boot from a CD, but it's a lot smaller, just a tiny 50MB download. Install this on your shitty old p166 32MB box and it should fly!
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/486.html (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/486.html)
[ September 20, 2004: Message edited by: Aloone ]
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Since this is in the Not Quite Mainstream forum...
BeOS!!
;)
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Originally posted by Novaz04:
I've had a look at the system requirements, I don't think any old junk PC could run in graphical mode. I mean I don't think i'll find a P 11 with 192 megs of ram, and with a decent sized HDD (normal user install 2. something gig's!)
Still intrested, but do you know a free Linux distro with a more humble requirement?
Thnks (http://smile.gif)
You only need an i486 and 8MB ram for DeLi Linux:
http://delilinux.berlios.de/ (http://delilinux.berlios.de/)
Setting it up is a little harder:
http://delilinux.berlios.de/DeliInstall.txt (http://delilinux.berlios.de/DeliInstall.txt)
[ September 20, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]
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Originally posted by WMD:
Since this is in the Not Quite Mainstream forum...
BeOS!!
;)
Seconded. BeOS is stable and has an easy to use interface, similar to the Mac OS. Plus, it's free of charge.
For your specifications, it would be the best and easiest choice with a simple GUI.
[ September 20, 2004: Message edited by: Laukev7 / BOB ]
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I think I might try BeOS
Thnks
Link Please?
[ October 01, 2004: Message edited by: Novaz04 ]
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Novaz04: Link Please?
Free edition: BeOS Max (http://www.beosmax.org/)
Commercial edition: yellowTAB Zeta (http://www.yellowtab.com/)
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The BeOS Max Site is currently closed for maintainance. We are in the process of adding content. Please come back later.
:( :( :(
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Originally posted by Calum is NOT a moderator:
:( :( :(
It's been like that for months now :(
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Did I ever mention how much I despise people that take their sites offline whilst coding, instead of prepping the code, then uploading it when ready? Christ people, stick to common courtesy rules already.
[ January 05, 2005: Message edited by: Midnight Candidate/BOB ]
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Originally posted by Midnight Candidate/BOB:
Did I ever mention how much I despise people that take their sites offline whilst coding, instead of prepping the code, then uploading it when ready? Christ people, stick to common courtesy rules already.
They've had bandwith problems, than the software was insecure and now they're just fucked :(
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well, it's been three months since you posted the link, so if it's been down for months, was it down when your link went up here? also, since THIS site has been down for that long too, i bet not one single person managed to make use of that link
:-( again
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Originally posted by Calum is NOT a moderator:
well, it's been three months since you posted the link, so if it's been down for months, was it down when your link went up here? also, since THIS site has been down for that long too, i bet not one single person managed to make use of that link
:-( again
I still have it on CD though :D
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good for you!
i'd quite like it on CD too, although i think i have to wait a while and buy another computer to install it on...
maybe i'll try to get you to copy it for me sometime... is that legal?
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Originally posted by Calum is NOT a moderator:
good for you!
i'd quite like it on CD too, although i think i have to wait a while and buy another computer to install it on...
maybe i'll try to get you to copy it for me sometime... is that legal?
It is. I just have to find it (http://smile.gif)
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well no hurry, i'll be in australia till mid february for a start
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you n000bs. BeOS MAX v3.1 came out. i am on v3 right now. those idiots at the beosmax.org cannot get their shit together.
here is a working link:
http://bebits.com/app/3892 (http://bebits.com/app/3892)
long live BeOS!
ps- i havent been on the forums for about a year. ever since this site went down for a while, i lost interest in it.
oh yeah, today im 16 and soon i am going to be coming out with a BeOS Quake II Clan web page. i am the founder of the BeOS Quake II Clan, so if any of you guys has BeOS R5 and wants to play, download my .pkg on BeShare. holla!
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Originally posted by MrX:
you n000bs. BeOS MAX v3.1 came out. i am on v3 right now. those idiots at the beosmax.org cannot get their shit together.
here is a working link:
http://bebits.com/app/3892 (http://bebits.com/app/3892)
long live BeOS!
ps- i havent been on the forums for about a year. ever since this site went down for a while, i lost interest in it.
oh yeah, today im 16 and soon i am going to be coming out with a BeOS Quake II Clan web page. i am the founder of the BeOS Quake II Clan, so if any of you guys has BeOS R5 and wants to play, download my .pkg on BeShare. holla!
Thanks for the download link, but it wasn't necessary to call all us n00bs :rolleyes:
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MrX,
Most of the people who've posted in this thread have been here for a lot longer than you, please don't call us n000bs - its taken as an insult round these parts.
The link is most appreciated anyway.
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I suspect X just said that to try and get us riled up. At any rate, much obliged for the linkage, suh!
:cool:
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it's not going to rile me. member number 81 and over 6000 posts, without even trying.
he'd be better calling us 01dz
[ January 26, 2005: Message edited by: Calum is NOT a moderator ]
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first, not all BeOS user's are of MrX's persona. personalities and attitudes similar to his are in the extreme minority.
I'm surprised to see BeOS being talked about on non-beos centric websites.
i've posted a reply to the BeOS Max 3.0 released (http://www.microsuck.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=12&t=000066) thread.
here's some additional BeShare compatible clients:
linux: Unizone (http://www.raasu.org/tools/linux)
win: Unizone (win) (http://www.raasu.org/tools/windows/)
java-based: JavaShare (http://www.varnernet.com/javashare/download.html)
i'm usually logged into BeShare and/or irc.freenode.net as mmadia
feel free to nudge me if you've questions or need help.
AFA BeOS Max's website, it's safe to assume it won't be going back online for a long time. however it can still be accessed via Internet Archive IA: BeOS Max's website (http://web.archive.org/web/20040210051548/http://beosmax.org/)
btw, R5 Pro can still be purchased for $25USD at PurPlus (http://store.purplus.net/beos.html)
they even have some other commercial software.
one final note: to anyone considering purchasing yellowTab Zeta. Their listed price is around $130USD. Before you spend the money, do some research into what is *not* available as a free download for R5.
IMVHO, the money spent vs. commercial+proprietary software is not the consumer's favor.
also note, Be Inc. sold R5 for $50USD. keep that in mind while considering yT Zeta.