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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: 1mck on 29 August 2002, 03:41
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Hello,
Yesterday was my first time EVER using Linux, and it was a cathartic experience to say the very least!
I can't get my computer to load up Knoppix, but I whipped over to my friend's place, and tried it on his computer, and it loaded up with absolutely no problems whatsoever!
Okay, my computer is (a piece of crap) a Compaq Presario 5360 with a AMD K6 450mhz processor with that 3D Now crap, and 256 megs of ram, and a Voodoo 3000 Video/3D accelerator card thingy. I have changed the BIOS settings so that the computer will boot to the CD first. Everything will go along fine until it actually reaches the point where it checks for everything on my computer, and then it reads the last thing, which is my sound card (Ess Solo 1), and then that's it. It doesn't do anything, and the computer is totally locked up to the point that I have to pull the power cord as the on/off button is disabled. I can only think that there is a conflict with my Video Card, and the Actual On-Board 3D Now Video Thingy that I have to disable in order to get everything to work with no conflicts with my present setup(I probably don't have it setup right on my computer in the first place). I would appreciate any help with this problem.
Thanks in advance,
1mck
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I'm afraid I can't help you much other than it appears to be hanging up on your sound card (but you already knew that). And I have to admit that I've never heard of Knoppix. What made you decide to try that one as your first?
And as far as live eval CDs have you tried SuSe's run from CD eval? Of course I've never run that one either but at least it's one of the major distros. Or is Knoppix a code word for SuSe's live eval? Sorry for not being able to help.
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Thanks for the info.
I read about it in one of the threads, and I checked it out, and it is absolutely amazing what it can do. Of course, that was on my friend's computer, and not on my piece of shit.
I'll check into the Suse jobber, and maybe that one will work. I don't want to go through the hassle of partitioning my hard drive...I've only got 10gigs, so when I get a Real computer, then I'll be doing the partition thing.
Here is the Link to Knoppix:
http://www.knoppix.org/ (http://www.knoppix.org/)
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I'm downloading Suse Live Eval 8.0 as I write, and there is a whole whack of stuff there. I downloaded all the little stuff, but when I make the .iso do I have to include the other stuff too?
Like: (rawwritewin.exe) or (modules1)???? Or do I just plain burn the .iso?
Thanks in advance (again),
1mck
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For my first ever experience with Linux, I was thourghly impressed, and I really like all the stuff that was on the Knoppix Linux, and I couldn't get over how many applications were jammed packed into it! My buddy and I surfed the internet, and played some games, and then tried out the office stuff, and you know what? If I had started with this in the first place instead of Windoze, then I don't think that I would have ever even considered Microsoft! I will be starting a new thread later on about this, and what I'm hoping that the extremely intelligent people who inhabit this bulletin board can do to get Linux more main stream.
[ August 28, 2002: Message edited by: 1mck ]
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The only thing you should need is the ISO to make the bootable CD. Good luck.
[ August 28, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Worked like a charm dude! I was unable to get out on the internet with Suse, but it did allow me to fart around with it, and get a really good feel for what Linux is all about:) Bottom line, yeah...thumbs way up!
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Originally posted by VoidMain:
I'm afraid I can't help you much other than it appears to be hanging up on your sound card (but you already knew that). And I have to admit that I've never heard of Knoppix. What made you decide to try that one as your first?
And as far as live eval CDs have you tried SuSe's run from CD eval? Of course I've never run that one either but at least it's one of the major distros. Or is Knoppix a code word for SuSe's live eval? Sorry for not being able to help.
VoidMain, Knoppix is a German distro based on Debian; it was intended to be a "rescue" distro; it can run a complete Linux installation directly from a CD. I've heard some good things about it, but I haven't had a chance to use it (56k downloads are a risk at my age; I might not live that long!)
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Yeah, I checked out the web site after posting the message. I've only ever ran one distro from CD and that was that DemoLinux CD a few days ago (also Debian based). I can see where they could come in very handy as a rescue disk. You can certainly fit more on a CD then on a floppy and with OpenOffice and the like makes a pretty good demo.
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Originally posted by VoidMain:
Yeah, I checked out the web site after posting the message. I've only ever ran one distro from CD and that was that DemoLinux CD a few days ago (also Debian based). I can see where they could come in very handy as a rescue disk. You can certainly fit more on a CD then on a floppy and with OpenOffice and the like makes a pretty good demo.
I've seen several different applications that allow you to build a rescue CD for your particular installation. When you talk about 700Mb of available file space, you could have quite the rescue disc. I haven't tried building one yet for the following reasons:
A. I'm not that confident in my skills; I've learned everything piecemeal; no formal training.
B. I'm basically lazier than an adobe brick.
I DO keep a rescue floppy handy, though.
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Actually they used a compressed CD file system so you actually have closer to 2GB to work with on a CD. Pretty cool.
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Guess what? After reading about what Knoppix is I wrote an email to Knoppix, and within a few hours I had a response, and I am very happy to say that I'm writing this using Knoqueror:)
If anyone has a problem with Knoppix, then try this line of code that the guy from Knoppix told me to try: (this is at the boot command line on the first screen:)
knoppix noapic nousb nopcmcia noscsi noagp nodma
It works like a hot damn!lol
I am presently listening to one of the included songs in the .ogg format. This "Rescue" version is incredible! It is much faster than the Suse Evaluation CD that I downloaded, and it is fully functional. I'll be spending the rest of today farting around with this now:)
Thanks to everyone who helped me out.
1mck
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Cool, downloading now... looks like it'll need a 700MB CD... damn, all I have are 640's lying around.... what to do.... I think I can loop mount the ISO, copy everything out, delete some crap (/usr/share/doc/*), recreate ISO and burn the sucker, will let you know how it comes out.
And here is a file that lists more boot options:
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt (http://ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt)
[ August 29, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Here's an even better idea to fix your problem:
Simply go to your local store, and at the computer department purchase some new cd's;)LOL Spend the cash for the 700MB CD's, hey they even sell them at 7-11 now, and save yourself the headache! I'm going to have to go and fork over some cash for some new CD's pretty soon as well.
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I would but I'm on some killer pain medication right now and can't drive, plus it's not that big of a deal to remaster the CD. And I can put some of my own stuff on it this way.
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Hope you get better soon, and I'd love to know how to do all the stuff that you do with Linux!
I just can't believe how far the technology has come where you have the entire Operating System on one CD...not some of it, but whole thing! Kool!
1mck
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Turns out it would have been a little more diificult than I first thought since it uses a compressed filesystem image inside the iso9660 ISO image. I needed the "cloop.o" kernel module so I got that and compiled it but the kernel included with RedHat must be too far off in versions to use it as there were several unresolved symbols.
So then I thought of a MUCH easier way to try it out without actually burning the CD. Since I am a proud owner/user of VMware I just created a vew virtual machine with 256MB of RAM and a virtual CDROM device pointing to the ISO and booted it in a virtual machine. Worked like a champ and it is FAST because it's actually booting from an ata100 drive rather than a slower CDROM. I guess I could go the next step and remaster the ISO from within the VMware booted knoppix session (has cloop obviously). Then I would be able to whittle it down below 650MB and burn it to the smaller CDRW. (http://smile.gif)
And regarding your technology statement. Operating systems *used* to fit entirely on a 180k floppy, and before that they fit nicely on a piece of paper tape, and before that many a wires were patched, and before that... (http://smile.gif)
[ August 30, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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Jesus Christ on a cracker!!! I knew that I was in the midst of intelligent people, but man....you truly are smart! It's people like you that are scaring the shit out of Bill Gates, and I do hope that you'll be able to finally get these shitty OS's off of our desktops, and get us ones that actually work without being so draconian:)
I'm contemplating Mandrake Linux right now as I don't have to partition my small hard drive, and I'll be able to use Linux until I get rid of this piece of shit;)
I got into the technology with the "Timex/Sinclair," and then the huge leap to an "Atari 600XL with 64k of Ram!" For me it is impressive because all I'm used to is Windoze, but still....you gotta admit that there is a "Gee Whiz" in there, eh?
If you don't mind me inquiring, were you injured or have an operation for you to be taking the happy drugs?
1mck
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I'm not that smart at all, I just don't use an OS designed to make you dumb. All the stuff I did is simple in Linux, in fact the VMware thing took all of 5 seconds, and it was point & click. It's really fun when you have all the tools you need right out of the box (or off the FTP server) and the vendor does not make the decision for you about what you are allowed to do and not to do.
As far as my little accident I tried a nack-nack for the first time on my dirt bike. Landing on my head and shoulders from an altitude of about 10' over a distance of 50' @ 40MPH caused my left collar bone to shatter (imagine that). I was pulling off some pretty cool combos all day prior to that one. Guess I didn't calculate the last trick properly. Then today my doctor informed me that I was too old to be doing that kind of stuff (now he tells me).
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Originally posted by VoidMain:
I'm not that smart at all, I just don't use an OS designed to make you dumb. All the stuff I did is simple in Linux, in fact the VMware thing took all of 5 seconds, and it was point & click. It's really fun when you have all the tools you need right out of the box (or off the FTP server) and the vendor does not make the decision for you about what you are allowed to do and not to do.
As far as my little accident I tried a nack-nack for the first time on my dirt bike. Landing on my head and shoulders from an altitude of about 10' over a distance of 50' @ 40MPH caused my left collar bone to shatter (imagine that). I was pulling off some pretty cool combos all day prior to that one. Guess I didn't calculate the last trick properly. Then today my doctor informed me that I was too old to be doing that kind of stuff (now he tells me).
That's why I gave up riding YEARS ago. I had a Norton Atlas; faster'n stink, I was coming home one night (I hadn't been drinking, thank God!); I came around a blind curve and there were (what appeared to be) 10,000 COWS IN THE ROAD!! English bikes went like the hammers of Hell, but they didn't stop all that well, so I figured on doing some quick off-road riding; I was goin' along great, until the bike and I got separated, and I landed on a rock; busted the shit outa my right hip.
Bikes are very cool; I'd like to find a Brough or a Velocette to restore, but it's just too damned dangerous to ride today (besides, after that little stroke, my coordinations kinda fucked up.)
Doctor's right; you're too old!
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Yeah, I've been pretty lucky. Been riding dirt and street since I was 5 and didn't break a single bone until Saturday. I believe riding *can* be very safe, as long as you are a smart rider. Anticipation of other people and objects (including cows) on the road is the key to safe street riding. Along with a properly maintained bike and proper safety equipment.
The problem is, sometimes (most of the time?) fun and adreneline overcome smart riding, especially in my case on the dirt side of the house. Never bite off a larger bite than you can chew (which is what I did) until you have methodically worked your way up to it (which is what I didn't do).
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Well, I hope you heal real fast, so you can get back in the saddle again, so to speak.lol That's if you have the inclination to do so, again.
I have to screw with things, I went and downloaded Mandrake Linux, and I just installed it, and it no worky! I went onto a Mandrake Bulletin Board to ask what I could do to fix it, and since you people are "Linux Gods" I am hoping that I can get double the help, here's what I wrote, and thanks in advance.
Hello,
I am having problems getting Mandrake to load up.
I have allocated 3 gigs for Mandrake, and the rest for my Windoze 98 SE, and I'm pretty sure that I've configured everything right, and before I delve into what is going on, Here is what I have for a computer...I'm sorry for the bad language that will follow;)
Compaq Presario 5360
AMD K6 450mhz with the 3D Now crap thingy
Voodoo 3000 PCI 3D Accelerator/Video card
256 megs of Ram
Ess Solo 1 Sound card
10 gig hard drive
What is happening is it will load up with no problem with the opening screen, but when I press "I" to have the interactive boot up, it ignores that, and then I am taken to black screen, and it has "login:", and even before I get a chance to press anything....the screen goes black, and my monitor shuts down, and my whole computer is locked up to the point that I have to pull the power cord out.
I should point out that I have had problems with Knoppix Rescue OS (It has a totally working Linux OS all on 1 disk...Kool!), and I wasn't able to get it to load, and it would also lock up my computer. I contacted Knoppix about this, and I was instructed to add this line of instructions at the beginning of boot up sequence: knoppix noapic nousb nopcmcia noscsi noagp nodma It worked, and I haven't fiddled with it to figure out what the problem was/is by eliminating each one by one until it locks up again, but I hope that this might help with identifying my problem(s).
Thanks in advance,
1mck
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What happens if you don't press 'I'. Because I never do when I boot a mandrake machine.
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It does exactly the same thing. It just....dies, and locks everything up, and an Empty screen. Sort of like life, eh?lol Sorry, had to throw a bit of levity in there;) Any ideas to fix it...the Mandrake Linux, not the levity I mean.:)
1mck