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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: skakillers on 1 March 2005, 18:55
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i am a newbie to linux, and i have tried Fedora core 1, but it sort of screwed up my computer. i want to rid my computer of the scourge that is bill gates and microsoft, but im unsure of a good distro for a noob like me.
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Well, I would recommend Mandrakelinux (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/) or SuSE (http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/) for absolute newbies.
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or just keep reinstalling fedora and fiddling with it until you get it "good".
visit http://voidmain.kicks-ass.net/ for more red hat/fedora tips, there's a lot of useful info and a discussion board there which is more red hat/fedora oriented than any other type of linux.
one thing: remember to have your /home directory on its own partition, this way, when you overwrite your / partition, your documents in /home will be untouched. you will have to redo your users, and chown the /home/ directories back to their right owner (perhaps) after your new system is installed, but at least you don't lose any of your configuration.
also, i often find that different version numbers and so on might make your config files (usually in the /home/ directory) do unpredictable things if you install for example SuSE when you had mandrake before and so on. so for example, if i had a problem with gaim after changing my distro, the first thing i would do is delete the /home/calum/.gaim directory.
anyway, i will shut up now in case i frighten you away, but never mind, that's my advice.
good luck, and enjoy.
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i dont want mandrake, ive already read enough stories about how much it sucks, but i think SuSE might be for me
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you could also try ubuntu linux http://www.ubuntulinux.org - you can order a cd for free (incl shipping :P )
based on debian, uses gnome as the gui...
it has a text installer, but i'ts pretty easy. the only complicated thing really is the partitioning... but then that's always going to be a little trickey.
the thing i like about ubuntu is that it comes with *one* text editor, and *one* web browser, and *one* office suite. you find with alot of the distros, you're overwhelmed with heaps of apps for the same thing. unbuntu keeps it simple, which is nice i think.
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i dont want mandrake, ive already read enough stories about how much it sucks, but i think SuSE might be for me
Mandrake doesn't suck at all...but Ubuntu is better either way.
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im havent tried mandrake, it just seems that alot of people on this forum dont like it.
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seems like you shouldn't decide mandrake sucks without trying it, since a lot of people (myself included) think it's quite good for a lot of purposes.
your choice though
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I just started using suse linux and I really like it> I just switched from windows after using it for 5 years. This was as a result of the fact that I own a OEM version of windows XP and had to reinstall it because service pack 2 hosed it and then i was treated like a criminal on the phone when I had to reactivate it even thogh I am a system builder
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Mandrake okay if you have more 312 of ram, a new speed harddisk, and a cpu bigger than 1Ghz. if your specs are lower than this, stay away.
Mr X
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Mandrake is good for modern computers (it was originally one of the first i686-compiled distros, tuned for performance on Pentium II and later processors).
Gentoo and Ubuntu are good as well.
However, I prefer to use "grown up" OSes like NT and FreeBSD. You might want to check out the latter.
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This was as a result of the fact that I own a OEM version of windows XP and had to reinstall it because service pack 2 hosed it and then i was treated like a criminal on the phone when I had to reactivate it even thogh I am a system builder
Riiiiiiiight.
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what the hell does "riiiiight" mean, brendon pillock?
who are you to cynically criticise what is clearly somebody's direct experience with microsoft's customer "service"?
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what the hell does "riiiiight" mean
It was an expression of disbelief. That is, I don't believe a licensed System Builder would not know how to install SP2, or that SP2 could "hose" a system, or that Microsoft's customer support would "treat him like a criminal."
However, that is, of course, my opinion - based solely on my experiences.
, brendon pillock?
huh?
who are you to cynically criticise what is clearly somebody's direct experience with microsoft's customer "service"?
I didn't criticize anything. And I'm cynical by nature. It's a bad habit, sorry Callus.
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It's a bad habit, sorry Callus.
huh?
I don't believe ... that SP2 could "hose" a system, or that Microsoft's customer support would "treat him like a criminal."
oh, riiiight.
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i want to rid my computer of the scourge that is bill gates and microsoft, but im unsure of a good distro for a noob like me.
There are several good "n00b" distros: Mandrake (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en-us) and Xandros (http://www.xandros.com) are good.
Going a bit out on a limb, I would also recommend Evil Entity (http://www.undeadlinux.org/index.php?category=2). even though this one doesn't include a graphical installer, its text installer is quite good, and requires a minimum of intervention. It installs from a single CD that includes a nice selection of software. I tried it with some good results. I wasn't too crazy about its "goth" look, but I fixed that easily enough: Screen Shot (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/jtpenrod/MyDesktop.jpg). :D
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The only time you can mention FoxBox and not have Rupert Murdoch ream your ass before a court of appeals. ;)
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:D
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I never said I did not know how to install service pack 2 and it has been known to lock up systems while it is being installed and as for being a system builder I have been for 5 years now and what you will find more unbelievable is that I am a women so I probably know more about windows than you do If you were to follow the news you would realize that oems have to be activated over the phone now and they ask you a series of questions to ascertain whether or not you own a legal copy of the oem you are installing thus treating consumer and builder as criminal due to the coas being reused from computer to computer. By the way this message is for the cynical unbelieving experinced gentalmen who posted the right!!!!!! comment above so pardon me if I replyed to the wrong message as I am still learning the ins and outs of this web site I am new
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Please write with some structure as so we can understand it.
And this board software has a habit of doing that I have noticed.
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Mandrake is good for modern computers (it was originally one of the first i686-compiled distros, tuned for performance on Pentium II and later processors).
Gentoo and Ubuntu are good as well.
However, I prefer to use "grown up" OSes like NT and FreeBSD. You might want to check out the latter.
Well, here goes...
I am new to this stuff, so excuse me if I fluff my lines. I use Windows, and I have read and experienced enough to want to get out of it and into something better. I have already kissed "so long" to Outlook Express and Internet Explorer by installing Firefox and Incredimail - both are great stuff.
My questions:
What is the best of the rest (OS) I have read about in this forum?
What are the main differences, compared to what I have now (XP Pro, et al)?
I have a 60G and a 40G hard drive. The 40G is split into 2 20-gig partitions. What is the best way to get ahold of the OS you recommend, and how much does it cost?
That's enough for now, as it's past my bedtime.
Thanks,
Wayne
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What is the best of the rest (OS) I have read about in this forum?
The right tool for the right job. As you are familiar with different 'windows' operating systems, there are many different 'linux-based' operating systems. We typically do not describe the windows version by the kernel (we call winXP 'XP' and not NT 5.1, ect). This being said, Linux-based operating systems have a lot in common, just as NT-based operating systems (2000pro, XP) have a lot in common.
There are differences, though. This is where the 'right tool for the right job' comes in. What are you going to be doing with your computer? Assuming you want a normal desktop operating system, then do you want a 'techie' linux OS or a Linux OS that is more integrated? Do you want to concentrate on learning more about your computer, or just want everything to work without worrying?
These are individual questions; and I can no answer them for you. My answers lead me to trying RedHat/Fedora Core, Slackware, and Suse. I like Redhat the most, and that is why I use Fedora Core III right now. I tried slackware, and it has its benefits, but wasn't right for me. Suse was wonderful, but there is just something about it... I think it was Yast that i didn't like.
Try Ubuntu and Knoppix Live cds to get a feel for if you want a gnome-based install or a KDE-based install
Novell Desktop Linux 10/Suse 9.3 will be out this month, and Fedora Core 4 will be out to mirrors within a few months.
What are the main differences, compared to what I have now (XP Pro, et al)?
Linux-based operating systems have a different directory heiarchy. There will be no C:\Program Files... don't expect it. There will be no 'C' drive, no 'D' drive, ect. Everything is built from the root directory, or '/'
Your home directory would be /home/username/. Most programs are install in the /usr/ directory. Most system-wide configuration tools are in /etc, while most user-prefference configuration would be in directories in your /home/username/ directory. /dev is a list of all system devices. Extra hard drives and partitions need to be 'mounted' to a spot on the filesystem heiarchy. you could choose '/mnt/win/' for your windows directory, or just make '/c' like i used to.
The software will be different. As you do not run windows software natively on a mac, you do not run windows software natively on linux. You can, however, use ports. Firefox exists on both platforms, for instance. Most software can be easily upgraded, which is of benefit to you since it is not so in windows. Typicically i use apt-get (graphical program is Synaptic) to update and otherwise install software. Fedora Core comes with 'yum' which is similar, with another graphical 'up2date' program. Suse/Novell has Yast.
there are many differences... feel free to ask
edit: missed a question
I have a 60G and a 40G hard drive. The 40G is split into 2 20-gig partitions. What is the best way to get ahold of the OS you recommend, and how much does it cost?
Your hard drives will be hda and hdb (assuming they are standard IDE hard drives)
There will be a number after the hda or hdb. If your 60gb hard drive is hda, and you only have one partition on it, then it will only be hda1. Your 40gb hard drive has two partitions on it, so most likely you will have hdb1 and hdb3.
All of the OS's i recommended above are free (and Free). You can download their ISO images and burn the install cds yourself, or you can buy the media.
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I have already kissed "so long" to Outlook Express and Internet Explorer by installing Firefox and Incredimail - both are great stuff.
Last I checked, Incredimail IS Outook, to some extent.
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My first Distro was Mandrake - although its ok for newbies, I no longer recommend it.
Instead, I recommend Ubuntu :)
It's a distro that is great for home-users. Newbies/Advanced alike.
www.UbuntuLinux.org (http://www.ubuntulinux.org)
That greatest distro I have ever used.
Based upon Debian, it has the nice apt-get package management, with a nice GUI 'Synaptic'.
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My first Distro was Mandrake - although its ok for newbies, I no longer recommend it.
Instead, I recommend Ubuntu :)
It's a distro that is great for home-users. Newbies/Advanced alike.
www.UbuntuLinux.org (http://www.ubuntulinux.org)
That greatest distro I have ever used.
Based upon Debian, it has the nice apt-get package management, with a nice GUI 'Synaptic'.
Does Ubuntu include KDE library's and the KDE apps that I love so much?
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Does Ubuntu include KDE library's and the KDE apps that I love so much?
Ubuntu now has a special KDE version of itself called Kubuntu. Or, you can take the Gnome Ubuntu and do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and have all of that set up right there.
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Hmm. I have a question.
For a person who has been using various Windows versions (ending with 98) and has now switched to Mandrake (though I might switch again (not back, elsewhere)) seeking a fairly easy to use system which will perform all the Windows tasks (WWW, mail, office suite etc. + occasional gaming, image editing, programming, graphics (not too advanced) perhaps), preferably better than the Redmond Virus and possibly more, which distro would be recommendable? I'm not asking just for my self, but I suppose the same thing I might be recommending my friends later. I am perfectly satisfied with Mandrake 9.2 w/ KDE, but who knows, there might be better out there, and I haven't had much experiece with it yet...
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If you're using 9.2, you can get better by upgrading to 10.1. ;) (No seriously, i've tried both)
Or Ubuntu.
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Yes, the version thing seems logical...:)
But then about Ubuntu... Why is it better?
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1. Ubuntu Gnome runs circles around KDE.
2. It's a bit faster overall.
3. You can use the whole Debian repository, without having out-of-date/unstable base packages.
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Hmm. Thanks.
And one more thing, if you don't mind. What about Kubuntu?
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I don't like KDE much anymore...3.4 might be ok if they sped it up like all the KDE fans were saying they did. It's probably just as good as Gnome version, in respects to the system itself.
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Linux + KDE is slower than Windows XP. :D
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Linux + KDE is slower than Windows XP. :D
Is that why my machine got faster after switch to linux + kde :P
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Is that why my machine got faster after switch to linux + kde :P
You mean the difference is more significant than that between KDE and Fluxbox? :p
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Linux + KDE is slower than Windows XP. :D
Impossible. My computer sped up when switching from W98. And don't try to tell me that 98 is slower than XP. You can't go negative...
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And don't try to tell me that 98 is slower than XP.
It is, actually, provided that your machine can adequately handle XP.
And KDE is pretty slow indeed...especially versions 2.2 and 3.1. Things have gotten better since, the biggest jump was 3.1 to 3.2. But, I've tried 3.3 on a P3/650 with 448MB RAM, and it was still kinda sluggish.
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Aight, good enough, I'm a Gnome guy now... as soon as get back home to my own computer, that is... Geez I hate XP...
Thanks, ppl.
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ahem, go buy a book on linux, best advice i can think of. its what i did when i chucked windows completly several years ago. not to mention having a bit of modavation when trying something new.
and for the record, kde is not only faster then gnome, but more intagrated in a good way. it is completely network transparent, wheris the only networking i see in gnome is corba...and thats so it can talk to itself.
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It is, actually, provided that your machine can adequately handle XP.
XP can be certainly be faster. Tuning the settings for 'best performance' can even make a low memory (128) system run XP faster than 9x.
And KDE is pretty slow indeed...especially versions 2.2 and 3.1. Things have gotten better since, the biggest jump was 3.1 to 3.2. But, I've tried 3.3 on a P3/650 with 448MB RAM, and it was still kinda sluggish.
I'm just compiled KDE 3.4 and I think it's MUCH better than 3.3 - it does seem a little bit snappier. One thing is for sure though, KDE 3.4 takes up way more memory by default than Windows XP. Right now, I am booted to FreeBSD 5.4-Stable with KDE 3.4 on Xorg, with Firefox running and there is 300MB memory in use. Xorg alone uses 150MB of memory. I can't recall exact numbers right now (it's been a few days since I booted to XP, and I don't want to bother right now), but on XP, when I have Firefox open I'll only be using around 140-180MB of memory.
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Jenda - your little icon says "Chances are your Operating system sucks". I take offense to that!
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I'm just compiled KDE 3.4 and I think it's MUCH better than 3.3 - it does seem a little bit snappier. One thing is for sure though, KDE 3.4 takes up way more memory by default than Windows XP. Right now, I am booted to FreeBSD 5.4-Stable with KDE 3.4 on Xorg, with Firefox running and there is 300MB memory in use. Xorg alone uses 150MB of memory. I can't recall exact numbers right now (it's been a few days since I booted to XP, and I don't want to bother right now), but on XP, when I have Firefox open I'll only be using around 140-180MB of memory.
This is very interesting, XP requires 64MB of RAM, yet I haven't seen it run on any less than 128MB but it runs well on 128MB and the speed is acceptable. Knoppix can run a GUI with KDE form a CD on 96MB of RAM without using a swap partition and I very much doubt that XP can do this. I bet if you installed Knoppix on a 128MB machine and used a swap partition it would be much faster than XP on the same hardware. Linux's performance depends a lot on how the kernel is compiled and how it's configured, ie which distribution you use. If you use something like Fedora Core, Mandrake, Linspire etc. Then it will be slower than Windows especially if you use the brain dead default configuration. Vector Linux will run well on than 32MB (it uses XFCE instead of KDE) and it flies on 256MB. I'm at work at the moment when I get home I'll tell you how much memory Vector Linux uses on my PC.
I fucking hate bloatware and I think some Linux distros are begining to become bloated. Most people I know who aren't computer geeks have less than 256MB of RAM and there are still new PCs on sale in the UK with 256MB of RAM, and this is way more than you need for most applications, I was happy with 32MB of ram untill I needed to buy a new PC last year because I fucked the old one up. If you want to run a GUI I don't think Windows is bloated but it is in the respect that it forces you to waste resources on a GUI even if you don't need it.
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Jenda - your little icon says "Chances are your Operating system sucks". I take offense to that!
Sorry. Didn't realize that on the Microsuck.com forum, the chances are in fact quite low :). Generally, it's unfortunately true, though.
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Sorry. Didn't realize that on the Microsuck.com forum, the chances are in fact quite low :). Generally, it's unfortunately true, though.
It detects ip/proxy and browser, shame it doesn't detect OS too - then it could give an appropriate comment. :)
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Xorg alone uses 150MB of memory.
Does it, though? This question may be beneath you, but did you take into account these numbers? (disclaimer: X is bloated either way)
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Does it, though? This question may be beneath you, but did you take into account these numbers? (disclaimer: X is bloated either way)
I'll have a look when I get home. You may be right - I might have been of not been paying attention and talking out of my ass there. :p
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Nope. X takes 150megs of memory allright. Perhaps BSD handles memory differently from Linux?
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Possibly. Here's my same line from good ol' top. (I don't know why it says root. It isn't :confused: )
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X must be run as root because it directly accesses your video hardware. Here is an explanation (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html#XFREE86-ROOT) from the good ole' FreeBSD handbook.
Only recently did the X port in FreeBSD even bother to install the x11 wrapper for you. When I first started using BSD a little over a year ago, I installed X, and upon trying to run it, I got a big fat error message telling me I had to be root to run Xfree86. Needless to say, I learned something new that day.:D
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IN case your wondering, on my machine, top shows X being run as my "paulb" account for some reason. KDE's sysguard shows it as being run as root - which is technically correct. I have no idea why top and KDE's sysguard show different owners. The BSD version of top might be programmed differently to recognize these types of special processes.
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Well all of your distros suck of you've installed lots of shit because my Vector Linux installation uses fuck all memory, it's light and fast.
Screenshot (http://illhostit.com/files/4144235672922851/screenshot.jpg)
I only have 256MB of ram and 32MB is used for the graphics, so that's just 224MB for the system. The swap file is seldom used and when it is I'm running low on memory as far as I'm concerned, this is how all operating systems should be.
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Linux can suck and it can be good, but I still prefur Windows for most things (because it's the only OS that lets me run all the software I use) even though I hate MS!
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Linux can suck and it can be good, but I still prefur Windows for most things (because it's the only OS that lets me run all the software I use) even though I hate MS!
I think you're looking at it from a weird perspective.
Open your mind a little.
I could have started with a Acorn running ReactOS, and say "I prefer ReactOS to Windows/Linux/MacOSX because it's the only OS that runs the software I use".
Well, maybe it's the only OS that will run the software you use on that OS - but I'm very sure it isn't the only OS that will run the type of software you use.
Maybe Windows is the only OS that could run Microsoft Word (I know it isn't, but im talking hyperphetically), but most other OS' can run Word Processors!
See my point?
Give us a list of software you need/use, and I'm sure we can find out what works, and what alternatives there are for those that don't work, in other Operating Systems.
Welcome to the site - feel free to sign up ;)
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I would have to recommend Ubuntu, Ubuntu has proved to be a very good distro for new users with minimal configuration, most of the time it works right off the bat. I have actually ordered 100 x86, and 30 PPC Ubuntu cd's to give to people at my college to use instead of winblows. I have successfully converted most of my less "techy" friends to linux (and i havent even recieived the CD's yet, just think of the possibilities, lol)
ps. no offense to you uber leet ubuntu users, its great for you guys too, lol, great for anyone really, billi Hates is prob using it as his main desktop OS and just not telling anybody, that bastard knows windoze will never match up to anything *NIX, and that includes OS X, which is BSD based me tinks.
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I think you're looking at it from a weird perspective.
Open your mind a little.
I could have started with a Acorn running ReSX because it's the only OS that runs the software I uactOS, and say "I prefer ReactOS to Windows/Linux/MacOse".
Well, maybe it's the only OS that will run the software you use on that OS - but I'm very sure it isn't the only OS that will run the type of software you use.
Maybe Windows is the only OS that could run Microsoft Word (I know it isn't, but im talking hyperphetically), but most other OS' can run Word Processors!
See my point?
Give us a list of software you need/use, and I'm sure we can find out what works, and what alternatives there are for those that don't work, in other Operating Systems.
Welcome to the site - feel free to sign up ;)
I've already disscused this before and I'm sorry I brought it up again, it just annoys me. There is no decent electronic circuit simulation software for Linux. I'm training to be an electronic engineer and it's also a hobby of mine so this is very important to me. I've replaced MS Works and IE with GPL software and I'm happy enough with how my machine runs.
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8860
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8833
http://www.electronics-lab.com/forum/index.php?topic=2315.0
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I'm not dissing Linux it's great look at how much memory Vector Linux uses:
Screenshot (http://illhostit.com/files/4144235672922851/screenshot.jpg)
I know I've posted this before but who bothered to click on the link? I don't want to put the picture in directly because poeple will bitch and the bandwidth I'm wasting.
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There is no decent electronic circuit simulation software for Linux.
While this may be true, I have scoured the web, and I just happened to notice that almost every circuit sim. app i could find was compatable with at least win95 if not win 3.1, whats my point you may ask. My point is that if an app works with most every win version, it will most definatly work with Wine :p
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Well the software I use didn't work with Wine the last time I tried it but it might do with the latest release I'll download it when I get the time as its no easy task on my shitty dialup connection.
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Staying with windows for something as specific as what you need is understandable.
Unless, like Bob said, it works in Wine :)
Yeah I beleive I have seen the screenshot before too.
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I'm just amazed that X only uses 11MB of memory on my Vector Linux installation!
People here have bitched and said X is bloted and it uses >150MB, but why the fuck does it only uses 11MB on my machine and shit loads on everone else's?
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It seems we are all waiting for an enthusiastic programmer who is also an engineer in electronics and will write us a Free circuit simulator...
I'm at work at the moment when I get home I'll tell you how much memory Vector Linux uses on my PC.
Well all of your distros suck of you've installed lots of shit because my Vector Linux installation uses fuck all memory, it's light and fast.
I'm not dissing Linux it's great look at how much memory Vector Linux uses:
I'm just amazed that X only uses 11MB of memory on my Vector Linux installation!
Alright, I think we all get the point...
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It seems we are all waiting for an enthusiastic programmer who is also an engineer in electronics and will write us a Free circuit simulator...
I wish I could program, infact I used to but I lost interest in it, maybe one day I'll go back but maybe not, anyway I'm not confident enough that I'll ever be a good enough programmer to write a circuit simulator, electronics is my main strength not programming.
Alright, I think we all get the point...
Ok I'll say it once more and then I promise I'll shut up. :D
[SIZE=8]Vector Linux Roooooolzzzzzz![/SIZE]
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I'm just amazed that X only uses 11MB of memory on my Vector Linux installation!
People here have bitched and said X is bloted and it uses >150MB, but why the fuck does it only uses 11MB on my machine and shit loads on everone else's?
Let me guess, you use a lightweight window manager like Fluxbox?
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He didn't say what version of Vector he was using. According to Distro Watch (http://66.180.174.35/table.php?distribution=vector), Vector had been using mainly IceWM; only the latest release uses KDE.
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He didn't say what version of Vector he was using. According to Distro Watch (http://66.180.174.35/table.php?distribution=vector), Vector had been using mainly IceWM; only the latest release uses KDE.
judging by his process list on that screenshot, he is running xfwm
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judging by his process list on that screenshot, he is running xfwm
Still way lighter than KDE. If he upgrades and takes KDE, those stats are going to go way up. (As for myself, I installed Enlightenment when I put Slack 10.1 on this rig. The Slack folks should offer that on the install CDs.)
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Ok, I was running Xfce 4.3, but that's not the point the latest Knoppix distro can run KDE on 96MB with out a swap partition, and X only uses 17MB under knoppix and that's with KDE too. :p
Anyway BobTheHob, are you into Electronics too?
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Ok, I was running Xfce 4.3, but that's not the point the latest Knoppix distro can run KDE on 96MB with out a swap partition, and X only uses 17MB under knoppix and that's with KDE too. :p
Anyway BobTheHob, are you into Electronics too?
Yes, I have been building electronics as a hobby for awhile now. I enjoy making little gadgets and stuff, lol
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I may have met you before in http://www.electronics-lab.com are you tweak232?
If so the post in the "What is your favorate programing language?" thread.
I'm Alun by the way.
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I may have met you before in http://www.electronics-lab.com (http://www.electronics-lab.com) are you tweak232?
If so the post in the "What is your favorate programing language?" thread.
I'm Alun by the way.
Nah, thats not me.
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Yes, I have been building electronics as a hobby for awhile now. I enjoy making little gadgets and stuff, lol
Can you make me a low voltage/current shock collar for my 1 year old son with a remote control. He allways gets into stuff, and he doesn't comprehend 'no'. i smack his hand sometimes when he gets into something dangerous, but he giggles and thinks I'm playing when I do it. I don't want to hit him hard, and that wouldn't be productive/good. :D
Yeah...a shock collar is defenitely what I need. :thumbup:
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Can you make me a low voltage/current shock collar for my 1 year old son with a remote control. He allways gets into stuff, and he doesn't comprehend 'no'. i smack his hand sometimes when he gets into something dangerous, but he giggles and thinks I'm playing when I do it. I don't want to hit him hard, and that wouldn't be productive/good. :D
Yeah...a shock collar is defenitely what I need. :thumbup:
500V @ 10A should be enough, but it wouldent be wireless :D
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I could actually build a portable circuit to charge a very large capacitor & give that voltage and current for a 100 or so milliseconds. :D
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I could actually build a portable circuit to charge a very large capacitor & give that voltage and current for a 100 or so milliseconds. :D
Yea, but ya but he needs to be able to have a toggle switch to turn it on and leave it on if he needs, fuck momentary switches, lol
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I have a very important question.
When installing a dual boot* (for those of us who do not have the courage to make the plunge (into freedom)) on a system with a single unpartitioned drive, is there a way to partition it with minimal risk of data loss?
If not, my friend needs to backup his whole disk. He doesn't have a burner, and doesn't know anyone in the area who has an external one. He has a fairly decent internet connection. I have a burner, and we have two flash drives, with a total of 384 MB. No external HDDs in sight. Any Ideas?
*Ubuntu/Win2k
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I have a very important question.
When installing a dual boot* (for those of us who do not have the courage to make the plunge (into freedom)) on a system with a single unpartitioned drive, is there a way to partition it with minimal risk of data loss?
If not, my friend needs to backup his whole disk. He doesn't have a burner, and doesn't know anyone in the area who has an external one. He has a fairly decent internet connection. I have a burner, and we have two flash drives, with a total of 384 MB. No external HDDs in sight. Any Ideas?
*Ubuntu/Win2k
I doubt the disk is unpartitioned, otherwise there would be no data to lose ;)
Programs like Partition Magic are good for partitioning, although personally I usually use the Ubuntu installer/fdisk.
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I have a very important question.
When installing a dual boot* (for those of us who do not have the courage to make the plunge (into freedom)) on a system with a single unpartitioned drive, is there a way to partition it with minimal risk of data loss?
If not, my friend needs to backup his whole disk. He doesn't have a burner, and doesn't know anyone in the area who has an external one. He has a fairly decent internet connection. I have a burner, and we have two flash drives, with a total of 384 MB. No external HDDs in sight. Any Ideas?
*Ubuntu/Win2k
If you have or can get ahold of a knoppix disk, it comes with a utility you can use called "QtParted". You can do pretty much everything you can with partition magic, but without haveing to buy or crack the application, cuz its free :) . Just resize the win partition and leave the free space, don't make the linux partition in QtParted. You could if you wanted to, but it would prob be easier to just let the linux installer use the freespace.
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OK, thanks for the efforts. But can I run QtParted from his Windows 2000? And is it safe?
Of course it's partitioned. My bad. But it only has one partition.
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OK, thanks for the efforts. But can I run QtParted from his Windows 2000? And is it safe?
Of course it's partitioned. My bad. But it only has one partition.
Its very safe, but unfortunatly only for linux.
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Its very safe, but unfortunatly only for linux.
Well, the thing is, he doesn't have the install CD for Windows, and he is the type who is used to many Windows things (MSN, Limewire). So he won't do it if there's a risk of losig Windows. Or not yet. Even though he knows about Jabber and that LW works under Linux as well.
And I have another friend, who would like to try dual boot, and he has the same problem. He's a gamer, and has a huge HDD, with some windows or another. So, does partition magic or QtParted damage the data on the existing partition?