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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 21 February 2003, 15:32

Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 21 February 2003, 15:32
This bothers me and it doesn't bother me at the same time.

MS say they will still support the mac version and improve on it... there by their own standards innovating for the mac.  They still earn money anyway because they get a license fee with every copy of VPC sold to a mac user.

However this might kill the linux version of VPC but again MS might have to support this only because this would give marketshare to VMware.

However if MS did kill the mac version would this really bother Apple?  Are they not developing x11 for the mac thereby allowing the mac to run linux software, might it be a non issue?

A non issue because they could allow Apple to install crossover office onto the mac and then allow the installation of the windows version of Office?

What do you guys think?
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Refalm on 21 February 2003, 17:28
I think they should make Wine, Mac OS X compatible  ;)
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: choasforages on 21 February 2003, 17:49
so your suggesting tying wine into somesort of virtual machine like bochs? that actally wouldn't be a bad idea, but it would be a huge project with slow performance at first, i unfourtantly, am nod a c/c++/asm god, i can walk through program and figure out what it does, not figure out something to do.
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 21 February 2003, 18:12
quote:
Originally posted by chaosforages:
so your suggesting tying wine into somesort of virtual machine like bochs? that actally wouldn't be a bad idea, but it would be a huge project with slow performance at first, i unfourtantly, am nod a c/c++/asm god, i can walk through program and figure out what it does, not figure out something to do.


I'm not suggesting it, i thought thats what would be on offer after apple implement X11 into OSX.  This is supposed to bring linux apps to the mac yes?  I just drew the line further and thought crossover is a linux app so it would grant office for the mac.

Maybe its my misinterpretation of what x11 is, i dunno.
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Calum on 21 February 2003, 19:04
maybe microsoft are just buying out the competition like they always did. from history, i suspect their next step might be to fuck up their newest acquisition, but maybe not. there's a first time for everything after all...
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: mobrien_12 on 22 February 2003, 00:42
This is why they bought out Connectix.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-985357.html (http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-985357.html)

They wanted a virtual OS environment for their new servers.
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 22 February 2003, 02:48
Yes Mr O Brien i know that but i'm more concerned about VPC, they now control some important software for hte mac.
Title: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Pantso on 22 February 2003, 15:55
That's sad, especially to those Mac users who used VPC but did't like M$. We shouldn't be surprised however.
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 20 May 2007, 17:20
Its amazing what happens in 4 years!
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: mobrien_12 on 21 May 2007, 05:12
welcome back!
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Crunchy(Cracked)Butter on 21 May 2007, 09:37
Cheers, but I've noticed these boards are not busy.  Thats not fun!
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Refalm on 21 May 2007, 19:20
On topic:
I like VPC. Really, it's 10 times better than VMWare *ducks for cover*

It even runs Linux better than VMWare, even though there's no Linux options (being a Microsoft product).
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Jack2000 on 21 May 2007, 20:22
kinda weird you mention that.
I tried the new ubuntu on VMWare.
The boot loader refused to work ;[
yeah.
I think i'll try w/ VPC
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 21 May 2007, 22:14
Are they planning to carry on developing VPC?

I can't imagine it running operating systems with 16-bit components like Windows 98 very well on a 64-bit version of Vista.
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: solemnwarning on 21 May 2007, 22:15
/me likes Xen best
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: Refalm on 22 May 2007, 00:33
Quote from: Aloone_Jonez
Are they planning to carry on developing VPC?

I can't imagine it running operating systems with 16-bit components like Windows 98 very well on a 64-bit version of Vista.

They are in fact. It's like Age of Empires.
They still kept the old employees on the product, and those people want to make a great product (unlike the Windows and Office team apparently).
Title: Re: So MS has bought Connectix
Post by: davidnix71 on 24 May 2007, 00:32
VPC for pc's is free from MS now. The PPC version isn't going anywhere since Apple went to Intel and you can dual-boot.

VPC is still very important on pc's. MS doesn't have the source code for a lot of things or the license if they do. One day we won't have anything but 64-bit hardware that may not handle 32/16/8 bit code correctly. Linux can be recompiled to insure 64-bit compatability, but Windows and third-party software for it may not.

Just like Steve dumped support for OS >9 and gave away the "Classic" emulation, MS isn't going to guaranty anything but the free use of an emulator, which isn't really free, since you'll now need an extra license for the Windows you install on VPC too. :fu: