Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: adiment on 7 September 2005, 05:40
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Hefty hardware requirements for Windows Vista[/b]
Hardware vendors are going to love the news that Windows Vista is going to need very beefy hardware to run well. At Microsoft's TechEd conference, Dan Warne finally managed to squeeze blood from a stone
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It runs faster than XP... but only a rig thats ten times more powerful than XP's requirements.... and it has to run encryption/decryption routines on its main peripheral bus to do it...ok does anyone see the logic here?
If you don't comply with PVP, we're going to downscale the quality upon playback
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You know, I had a choice when I bought parts for my computer.
I choose IDE instead of SATA. So now I can't use Windows Vista (not that I wanted to anyway) because I have IDE? Fuck that!
Also, Microsoft is going to upset quite some gamers by making the desktop OpenGL'ed and requirering 256 MB of video memory to run properly!
Microsoft is fucking nuts!
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I know MS has a history of having unreasonable system requirements, but this really takes the piss which is why I don't believe this, it must be bullshit. There's no way they'll be able to sell Vista if t requires hardware as powerfull as this to run, perhapps this is only with all the eye candy and 3D special effects turned on.
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This is just insane. Fortunately it doesn't concern me at all.
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man! when vista comes out, those machines running vista will cost like 4-5 grand. I'm not upgrading from xp sp1. fuck.. even sp2 slows down my machine. and also by the time vista comes out, suse will be taking over all of my windows xp needs. *fingers crossed*
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thats a huge jump from from the minimum 233MHz cpu for XP. i need windows for gamin, i use linux for everything else, if they make me upgrade to vista....................
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if they make me upgrade to vista....................
Who's gonna make ya?
Microsoft doesn't control which software you choose to put on your computer. You do.
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"If you move from 32 to 64 bit, you basically need to at least double your memory. 2 gigs in 64 bit is the equivalent of a gig of RAM on a 32bit machine. That's because you're dealing with chunks that are twice the size...
What the fuck?
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Muhahahhahahahha "}
Told you .. :Pp
But you would not listen now would you!!!!!
But noooooo instead you come and say ooh the big bad M$ is gona take our cash
You should have listen to the guy with internal sources(hell every bulgarian is going to tell you everything (as long as you are bulgarian too))
Now suck on M$ big rocket or revert to 98 \ Unix
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WMD, this proves to me that this whole article is complete and utter bullcrap. I'd stoped reading before I got to this point, now it's totally lost the smallest bit of credibility it had.
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Muhahahhahahahha "}
Told you .. :Pp
But you would not listen now would you!!!!!
But noooooo instead you come and say ooh the big bad M$ is gona take our cash
You should have listen to the guy with internal sources(hell every bulgarian is going to tell you everything (as long as you are bulgarian too))
Now suck on M$ big rocket or revert to 98 \ Unix
Wha?
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I said that i informed all of you about vista but back then you just ignored me
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I said that i informed all of you about vista but back then you just ignored me
Oh.
I saw "Pp" and thought you were referring to me (after a few reads, even).
I still don't know what posts/threads you're talking about though.
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You know, I had a choice when I bought parts for my computer.
I choose IDE instead of SATA. So now I can't use Windows Vista (not that I wanted to anyway) because I have IDE? Fuck that!
Also, Microsoft is going to upset quite some gamers by making the desktop OpenGL'ed and requirering 256 MB of video memory to run properly!
Microsoft is fucking nuts!
It'll still work [like crap] on systems that don't meet MS's requirments. My friend tried the beta and it took 700mbs of ram just to idle on desktop. :scared:
SATA isn't even worth it for for the extra 17mbps of transfer. PATA 133 is not far from SATA, PATA HDD's with 16mb cache are almost as good as the best SATA drive (10,000rpm Raptor, 74gb, 8mb cache), not to mention much cheaper.
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http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=102399#post102399 (http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?p=102399#post102399)
little hard on the words butt...
In bulgaria when you chat over something that does not support
images you use the common smiliy faces .;) :} :] 8) :? .:p :Pp
and .;p :Pp as you might have guesed is :p(well a smile stick out toungue as if it is saying ")told you so"
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.; == (strong impression)
I am still not going to use vista (unleas some one gives away that type of pc or i get rich suddenly)
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hmm.... my ram says its has a 64bit bandwith so..........
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In bulgaria when you chat over something that does not support
images you use the common smiliy faces .;) :} :] 8) :? .:p :Pp
Those are some wierd smiley faces, I better stay away from that place.
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They are that way for every diferent sm face ever made graphic :)
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How is microsoft going to justify those Requirments,
are they nuts some of the parts are not even accessible
for us(as in we) mortals
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Do you guys not read well?
In a 32 bit environment, half a gig of RAM is heaps. It's going to fly.
That's 512MB RAM, which is what you need now to get basic apps like Photoshop and Illustrator to open a 100MB file.
But they need to have 128MB of RAM on it. If they've only got 64 don't panic.
64MB of video is considered ghetto nowadays anyway, right?
This is just insane. Fortunately it doesn't concern me at all.
Ditto.
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Everyone talks about "oh, that's not much nowadays...." Why do you like buying new computers and equipment so often? Nothing in Vista (that could be made to be less demanding) is really worth buying a bunch of new stuff.
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Heh, another reason to scream FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!
I read that article and almost fell out of my chair laughing. Way to ALIENATE your current customer base isn't it Microsoft?
Dumbass greedy corporate whores...
--coppercore
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Also, Microsoft is going to upset quite some gamers by making the desktop OpenGL'ed and requirering 256 MB of video memory to run properly!
Microsoft is fucking nuts!
The desktop won't be OpenGL. This is Microsoft, the company who wants to replace open standards with inferior proprietary ones, remember? It's run on Direct3D. In fact, this makes the desktop incompatible with OpenGL unless the OpenGL program is running full screen (in which case the desktop is essentially not running). Ok for games, bad for those modelling and CAD programs, no?
I'm not speculating on this. It was in slashdot a few months back.
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That's 512MB RAM, which is what you need now to get basic apps like Photoshop and Illustrator to open a 100MB file.
I use Photoshop with a document that's about 75MB, and it takes ten minutes to open with 256MB RAM and a Celeron processor. :(
Heh, another reason to scream FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!
I read that article and almost fell out of my chair laughing. Way to ALIENATE your current customer base isn't it Microsoft?
Dumbass greedy corporate whores...
--coppercore
They'll certainly piss off their customer base, but the ones Microsoft truly cares about are locked in with long-term subscription agreements. There's long been theories of a Microsoft-Intel conspiracy to drive up system requirements to force new hardware purchases, and Vista proves it. Nobody's really being alienated, since 95% of Microsoft's current customers will cry a bit, then bend over and buy Vista and new hardware. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the MPAA-owned Congress decides to mandate Vista and ban current OSes and hardware. :PISSED:
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for me, windows ends at XP 64. my system will run vista, and prob laugh at it asking for more, but those req's are stupid. and as my pc will be a media center, i want hi-def, but i aint gunna go and buy a HDTV just to watch hi-def properly. and about the ram. 512 meg for 32 bit. with chunks twice the size in 64 bit, in my mind, that means 1 gig of ram, not 2.
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My math says that the advantage of 64 bit processing is the time saved processing a certain required amount of data. NOT FILLING UP MY RAM WITH TWICE (NOT TO MENTION 4* - WTF) THE AMOUNT OF CRAP!!!
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I use Photoshop with a document that's about 75MB, and it takes ten minutes to open with 256MB RAM and a Celeron processor. :(
Celery processor is your first mistake :D
Actually, I'm surprised you get it to open at all. Just using Windows at all takes up at least 150MB, and Photoshop takes at least 50 more. Doubling your RAM would make such a difference that you would think you died and went to heaven.
In my job, I make Encapsulated PostScript maps all the time. One such map only took up 20MB of disk space, but it had well over 300,000 lines of EPS code! My Windows box has 1.5GB of RAM, but Illustrator10 went into a coma long before it could open this file - I let it thrash about for over an hour before giving up. Then I took the file home and tried to open it on my Mac, which has 640MB RAM. It took about 25 minutes, but Illustrator CS finally opened it. Unfortunately, switching from the zoom tool to the arrow tool was too much for it, and it told me to forget about it.
Of course this is totally off topic. This is just the story I like to tell people who wonder what's so bad about Windows. Memory management, that's what's so bad. Everything else is almost excusable. But the memory management is awful, and never going to change. Even 1.5 GB won't save you.
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This is just insane. Fortunately it doesn't concern me at all.
You said it. I'm staying with my Mac.