Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Lead Head on 15 August 2005, 17:05
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Firefox's market share slipped last month for the first time since the alternative browser began its battle to offer a popular alternative to Microsoft's ubiqitous Internet Explorer software. This consistent growth suffered a set-back when Firefox fell back from 8.71 per cent market share in June to 8.07 per cent in July, acording to web analytics firm NetApplications. Over the same period Microsoft's share rose from 86.56 per cent in June to 87.2 per cent in July, so Firefox's loss was Microsoft's gain.
NO!! How could this off hapened? lets hope the firefox will regain market share. Full Story Here (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/firefox_share_drops/)
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It's not that big of a loss, Firefox is still winning. ;)
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I think it'll get worse when IE 7 comes out as people will have less reasons to switch to Firefox. I hope Firefox fights back by adding some new features like a decent download manager and zoom tool.
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like a download manager that support multiple conections
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And be able to pause and resume the download after restarting Firefox or after a connection or power failure.
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ya, i had alot of power failure last night because of a storm. It was anoyin to kepp havin to re-download something
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Yeah, when I used to be on ntl dialup the connection used to terminate once ever 2 hours so I installed a separate download manager but it didn't work very well with Firefox. Now I'm on broadband I don't bother and it's be even better if the download manager was integrated into FireFox.
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ya i got cable to but, i download lots of 600-700 Meg things so its gets really anoyin to re-download
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This kinda implies a lot of people are deleting firefox from their computers. Why?
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I haven't. :)
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 (Firefox 1.0.4)
And it still rocks. :D
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Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050720 Fedora/1.0.6-1.1.fc4 Firefox/1.0.6
I wonder what percentage of that loss is going to Konqueror and Opera?
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Heh, I've updated to 1.0.6 in Windows.
Couldn't be bothered in Linux though. ;)
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The lack of a decent download manager is a major gripe with me, too. I bought iGetter, but you can use it for free if you wish. I've downloaded 80MB files on dialup with iGetter without a glitch. One ftp I went for had to restart over 100 times because the server kept dropping me, but I got it all intact.
Sometimes Firefox and iGetter together make a good team, although you don't need to "integrate" it into the browser. Sometimes Firefox won't save a file, but if it can stream the file and then iGetter is called to the same file, together they will stream and save at the same time.
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This kinda implies a lot of people are deleting firefox from their computers. Why?
I doubt this is the case maybe some people have stopped using Firfox because they've discovered it won't work on some webpages but I think the rest is to do with less people adopting it in the first place. These statistics just show percentages so the number of Firefox users could be stable but because more people in the world are getting computers the new computer users could just be using IE.
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What's wrong with the download manager? I like it just the way it is, personally.
I've noticed that some people, when they come to staples to buy a new computer, beleive that they should use what comes with their computer, even if they do not understand that IE on a new HP is no better than IE on their 6-month-old HP. They may have used firefox because someone told them to, but they typically think that new stuff is perfect.
I know for a fact that firefox usage is increasing very rapidly near me. Every fellow electronics employee at Staples is now using Firefox, and I stress the importance of Firefox to as many people as it would affect. I'm even getting fellow employees to spread it like i have the last 10 months.
Firefox will have a hard time overcoming IE if it is not bundled with the computers that people buy. Some are just too lazy to go and download the browser. I write down the website for dozens of people a day (and the regular customers usually come back for other various things, and affirm that they are using (and love) firefox), but some are even adimately opposed to not using a microsoft product. that is what scares me.
(for those who are interested: Last Nov. there were few people who heard of firefox. around April/May, many have heard of it, and lately many say that they downloaded it, but just haven't used it yet. I encourage them to start using it. [this may explain the high download rate and lowering usershare])
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What's wrong with the download manager? I like it just the way it is, personally.
Try the one from Opera.
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The Firefox download manager is shit.
You loose the download in the following scenarios:
- Restart Firefox.
- Loss of Internet connection.
- Power failure.
- System crash.
A decent download manager should be able to resume a download and not loose and data under the aforementioned circumatances.
Opera's download manager is much better.
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i never use a download manager. i trust my computer, gigabyte mainboard, kingston ram etc. i trust my cable company and i trust the power company.
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but do you trust that lightning/car/truck/tank wont hit a telephone pole/powerline
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do you trust yourself?
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I know for a fact that firefox usage is increasing very rapidly near me. Every fellow electronics employee at Staples is now using Firefox, and I stress the importance of Firefox to as many people as it would affect. I'm even getting fellow employees to spread it like i have the last 10 months.
Here at the university where I work, the tech support people have issued a directive to the oceanography department to cease and desist with use of Outlook, Outlook Express, and IE. Firefox and Thunderbird are the replacements of choice, and just about everyone has commented on how much nicer things run. My brother-in-law, who works at Dell, tells me that all the design engineers there use Firefox.
Firefox will have a hard time overcoming IE if it is not bundled with the computers that people buy. Some are just too lazy to go and download the browser. I write down the website for dozens of people a day (and the regular customers usually come back for other various things, and affirm that they are using (and love) firefox), but some are even adimately opposed to not using a microsoft product. that is what scares me.
My dad recently got a couple new computers, and he asked me to set them up for him. Well, IE and Outlook can no longer be found on them, and he has adapted to Firefox and Tbird surprisingly well, considering he is 65. I didn't even ask, I just did it!
(for those who are interested: Last Nov. there were few people who heard of firefox. around April/May, many have heard of it, and lately many say that they downloaded it, but just haven't used it yet. I encourage them to start using it. [this may explain the high download rate and lowering usershare])
I have had a Mozilla t-shirt for over a year now, and at the beginning, only computer geeks knew what it was - everybody else was like "Why do you have a red dinosaur on your shirt? And what is mozilla.org?" Now, people don't ask anymore - Mozilla and Firefox have become common names, at least among college kids.
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but do you trust that lightning/car/truck/tank wont hit a telephone pole/powerline
that woul;d have to be a very bad crash. i also trust the 2 foot of road that the power and cable fibres are under:thumbup:
also i think i trust myself :scared:
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Notice that i said TANK, yes onetime this dude stole a tank from an armory that he worked at and..............
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i spose a well guided tank down some of the fiarly narrow streets here would do it.
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or some guy in a tank firing off at random placed
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The Firefox download manager is shit.
You loose the download in the following scenarios:
- Restart Firefox.
- Loss of Internet connection.
- Power failure.
- System crash.
A decent download manager should be able to resume a download and not loose and data under the aforementioned circumatances.
Opera's download manager is much better.
Mr X has been stressing about how good Opera is, and this is what he always said. Good job, Aloone .
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Mr X has been stressing about how good Opera is, and this is what he always said. Good job, Aloone .
Ok, ok, we get the picture. Now fucking drop it.
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I don't use Opera because I don't know if it's secure or not, and the adds are annoying.
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you can allways register it the dis-honest way.
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I'm not even bothering to do that, Operas ads are annoying, I'm not willing to pay for it, and I'm not willing to obtain it illegally either.
I prefer Firefox, even if its download manager isn't the be all and end all. :rolleyes:
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...better than ie... but I still use Star Downloader where possible.
Are there better free alternatives?
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I'm sure the download manager will be improved in future versions.
Have there actually been any questions about this put to Mozilla? :rolleyes:
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What makes Firefox better than Opera is simple...
Extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&category=Download%20Tools
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You should've said that before I payed 35 euros...
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Honestly I will buy Opera one day.
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No you won't. Sinner.
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That required no reply from your immature 200 baud brain to body connection.
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Yes it did, idiot.
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What makes Firefox better than Opera is simple...
Extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&category=Download%20Tools (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&numpg=10&category=Download%20Tools)
I've seen this before, I don't need to use any of that though.
But that is really cool stuff! :thumbup:
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Sadly, and like I explained in another topics on another forum, sometimes the worst product gets the best advertising.
In this case, IE.
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Sadly, and like I explained in another topics on another forum,
This is your first post right (unless your other posts were in binned or moroned threads) so how can you have explained this in other thread unless you have another account.
sometimes the worst product gets the best advertising.
In this case, IE.
I agree, and welcome to the forum, :) (unless you've been banned and this is your reincarnation but I hope this isn't the case and if it is then please kindly leave)
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Probably the bit about "another forum".
Never bet against an inferior product.
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Probably the bit about "another forum".
Sorry, my mistake for not reading the post properly. :o
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heh i read the post wrong too
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I suppose it doesn't help because it's so poorly worded.
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Odd, I read it perfectly first time, and I'm tired. :(
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Yes but your not retarded.
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Indeed.
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Righto