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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: Refalm on 9 June 2011, 13:03

Title: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: Refalm on 9 June 2011, 13:03
Microsoft can't confirm or deny that they ended their strategy to push Silverlight and .NET.

The confusion arose when it was revealed in a demo (http://www.stop-microsoft.org/bbs/index.php/topic,12556.msg136935.html), that the new Windows UI will be build upon HTML5, CSS3 and JavaScript. With no mention of Silverlight or .NET.
People who are specialized in Microsoft's propriety frameworks, and have jobs to develop applications in them, are now pretty mad.

Quote from: itnews.com.au
“Microsoft has a first class cross-platform application framework called Silverlight and they want us to write freaking Javascript. Really!?” posted Jan Hannemann, a research associate University of Victoria. “Did I mention that I'm disappointed?”
Quote from: itnews.com.au
Petersen said Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) and Silverlight developers had “valid reasons to be concerned that the Microsoft .Net UI (user interface) platforms they have grown to love and support are being demoted in Windows 8 in a way that could relegate them to a place of obscurity.”
Read more... (http://www.itnews.com.au/News/259910,silverlight-developers-rally-against-windows-8-plans.aspx)
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 10 June 2011, 00:01
Ah more vapourware.

It looks like Siverlight is a failure and even Microsoft themselves are abandoning it. Good, anyone who ties themselves into a proprietary product deserves to die because they're too short sighted to see things could change.

If Microsoft go bust, we don't want another worldwide recession because of it.
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: piratePenguin on 10 June 2011, 23:22
Ah more vapourware.

It looks like Siverlight is a failure and even Microsoft themselves are abandoning it. Good, anyone who ties themselves into a proprietary product deserves to die because they're too short sighted to see things could change.
Lol.

It's clear that releasing something that can be developed with web technologies is one sure way to get thousands of developers on board - I made this point when Apples Dashboard widgets exploded. The same is the reason Firefox had thousands of extensions before every other browser.

Perhaps the striking thing is that it seems Microsoft has come to learn that there are at least some places where their proprietary technologies can not compete with what occurs when open web technologies are used instead. And these technologies are only getting stronger. They get stronger not even by being improved - most of their power is just in the numbers.

I presume their use of web technologies is going to press on the need for implementing modern web standards. It seems like they must have done an awful lot of work in this area - which is good, because if they don't, they will be left behind.

The battle of the web apps versus proprietary platforms is just about getting started. Microsoft don't need one more enemy in the battle for appshare. I'm glad they noticed.
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: reactosguy on 30 June 2011, 04:57
Oh god, Encarta died, now what was that other thing, and these two are on the path to hell...

Microsoft is probably today's failed innovation factory. Wikipedia > Encarta, and Flash is just damn dominant.

 :O
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: JIHE on 30 June 2011, 09:50
The users today would rather to rely on the company who have more reputation, so...
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: Aloone_Jonez on 30 June 2011, 23:35
Hi, welcome to the forum.

How did you find this place?
Title: Re: Why not to rely on Microsoft (specifically .NET and Silverlight)
Post by: reactosguy on 4 July 2011, 02:24
The users today would rather to rely on the company who have more reputation, so...

Agreed. Higher reputation == more customers.