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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: Tattooed on 22 January 2003, 05:14
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Hi!
Before you hack the xbox read this: http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=9463&s=1af4bcc31ae6546bc8432941fda50192 (http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=9463&s=1af4bcc31ae6546bc8432941fda50192)
Read what LhorDhun has written I don't know if this is ture or not...but it is worring
Tattooed
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I hope to f**k this is not true.
Tattooed
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Tattooed ]
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fuck the DMCA right up its sorry arsehole. The Digital Materialistic Cunt Act is the biggest turd of legislation this nation's made since Jim Crow. Any law that arbitrarily limits the rights of a large group of people (be it people of color or people with technology) is WRONG. But the problem is, you can't really say that it's "anti-American". It's not! It stands to defend everything this country *has come to stand for*. Greed, avarice, and graft. And since it's obviously possible for people in other nations to violate our law, it's just one more reason for the rest of the world to hate this shit eater nation of ours.
God Damn the USA.
We need another civil rights movement in the U.S. This one is against the goddamned entertainment cartels and their bullshit.
I hope they all DIE
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Jimmy James: Mac Commando ]
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MS has already publicly stated that their XBOX is covered under the DMCA.
The DMCA is a seriously bad piece of legistation which can be stretched to cover all sorts of crap, stifle innovation, and squash free speech.
It generally benefits only ONE group: BIG CORPORATIONS.
The only way this stuff is going to go away is
a) the law is modified in the legislature.
b) The law is challenged and weakened in lawsuits, either brought by big business and lost (e.g. Adobe's ebook BS lawsuit), or by small businesses/individuals and won (like the company who is trying to market DVD copying software for legitimate applications).
Expect big business, including MS at the lead, to be fighting this tooth and nail.
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I have a solution. Don't buy an X-Box. I can't imagine anyone would want one anyway...
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Jimmy James: Mac Commando: We need another civil rights movement in the U.S. This one is against the goddamned entertainment cartels and their bullshit.
http://www.eff.org/ (http://www.eff.org/)
http://www.thehacktivist.com/ (http://www.thehacktivist.com/)
http://www.anti-dmca.org/ (http://www.anti-dmca.org/)
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Hi!
Is this DMCA law yet? This is the first I have heard of it. Does the DMCA apply to people in the UK?
Found a online DMCA petiition. Pl sign it.
http://www.petitiononline.com/nixdmca/petition.html (http://www.petitiononline.com/nixdmca/petition.html)
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Refalm,
I was very aware of those sites. They're great resources and they've got the right idea... but it's going to take sit-ins, public disobediance, marches and rallies measuring in hundreds of thousands of people to get real attention.
Tattooed, yes, this is a real law. It was passed in 1998 and it can, in fact, affect you over in Britain! They arrested a Russian man, Dmitry Skylarov upon entering the United States.
The DMCA and its ilk are going to be the ruin of the world!!!!!
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Plus that the WTO will probably inforce the law on non-U.S. countries.
Some anarchists and socialists have protested against it last year in Seattle, but... which avarge American cares about that?
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Hi!
So why have I only heard about the DMCA law now?? It's sad to say-but most people don't give two s**ts about DMCA. So if I added a mod chip to the xbox that would make me a criminal :confused: I agree that these laws will ruin the world.
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Originally posted by Refalm:
Plus that the WTO will probably inforce the law on non-U.S. countries.
Some anarchists and socialists have protested against it last year in Seattle, but... which avarge American cares about that?
Like the song 'Television, drug of the nation' says:
Socialism is un-american
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Originally posted by Refalm:
Some anarchists and socialists have protested against it last year in Seattle, but... which avarge American cares about that?
This average American.
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i wish i could live in sealend, then i could officialy tell the cease and desist letter sender to BITE MY ASS, i mess around with things under the DMCA here and i get sent to a "soap on a rope prison" and have to DEFEND MY ASS
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MS has already publicly stated that their XBOX is covered under the DMCA.
The DMCA is a seriously bad piece of legistation which can be stretched to cover all sorts of crap, stifle innovation, and squash free speech.
It generally benefits only ONE group: BIG CORPORATIONS.
The only way this stuff is going to go away is
a) the law is modified in the legislature.
b) The law is challenged and weakened in lawsuits, either brought by big business and lost (e.g. Adobe's ebook BS lawsuit), or by small businesses/individuals and won (like the company who is trying to market DVD copying software for legitimate applications).
In the first place, I don't have an X-Crox, don't want an X-Crox, have NO plans to ever get an X-Crox. I already waste too damn much time with an old Nintendo-64 I rescued from the trash man. ;)
Secondly, the DCMA is going to go away. Perhaps it will be repealed outright (possible, but unlikely), or it will be legislatively castrated (more likely), or it will become one of those laws that are still on the books, yet never enforced, like the still-extant laws requiring every driver of a motor vehicle to hire a flag-man to preceed him down the street. (most likely) That way, the politicos don't have to admit to making an error, and the special-interests aren't aroused. If this doesn't happen, innovation will likely die in the USA. However, it will live on in places like Canada, India, Indonesia, Korea (if the "Glorious Leader" to the north doesn't attack, that is ;) ). And the USA will find itself being left farther and farther behind. We've already seen the beginnings of the process with the arrest of Dimitry Skylarov. Not only was this a political embarrassment to the USA, but, as a result, the Russian equivalent of the State Dept. put the United States on their "advisory" list, discourageing all tech-workers from coming here. And there have already been tech-conferences that have cancelled plans to meet here. Since the public educational system here is a pathetic joke, and there simply aren't enough Americans to do this work, America can't afford to drive off all those Pakistanis, Indians, Koreans, Indonesians, etc. who keep Silicon Valley alive and functioning.
Lastly, the US economy isn't driven anymore by those who actually create "stuff". Hell, the US doesn't even produce all these wonderful high-tech gadgets: the computers, VCRs, DVD players, even the chips for these are largely made over-seas. It's the ideas and inventiveness that's been keeping the US a player in the world economy.
The DMCA is a threat to the national security, therefore it goes. After all, why do you think we haven't seen any high-profile prosecutions under this law lately?
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Yes, the DMCA is a crock of shit. Hopefully they enforce it as well as they enforce Anti-Piracy here in New Zealand.
Not at all.
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In Reference to the LHORDUHN post from the first post of this thread...The DMCA is a piece of shit. If I buy an Xbox, I become the owner of the plastic, ceramic, silicon, and metal that composes it. It is mine. Microsoft has no ownership of that physical box, I do. Though I HATE M$, I admit that they own the rights to the design of that X-Cocks, and I cannot copy it and sell it. HOWEVER...If I choose to modify it to do something, that, in and of itself, shouldn't be illegal. I'm not trying to start a rant about using illegal software...should it be legal or shouldn't it...but I'm just saying that that the modification of the physical box of plastic and metal is MINE to do whatever the fuck I'd like to.
Of course, I'd never buy one, because, in addition to video games being a waste of time, I will not give M$ any more of my dough than I must.
PS: All companies that make their websites inicompatible with Mozilla and insist you use IE are DAMNED TO HELL right alongside with M$.