Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: HPC GUY on 15 June 2006, 23:15
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http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/002276.html
like the topic says
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Unfortunately, Microsoft is more than just one man. It's more like a concept. A very evil concept.
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Unfortunately, Microsoft is more than just one man. It's more like a concept. A very evil concept.
Does the whole reporting of the event in that article make Bill Gates sound like Arvin Sloane to anyone else, or have I just been watching too many Alias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_%28TV_series%29) repeats again? I can kinda see him covertly endorsing contamination of the world's water supplies under the pretext of "purification" so a false Apocalypse can be created with an arcane piece of technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_device).
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The article actually headed with "Gates to leave MS", but there's no such thing.
He'll still have lots of power as a chairman.
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The article actually headed with "Gates to leave MS", but there's no such thing.
He'll still have lots of power as a chairman.
this is why i carefully chose the topic name, instead of saying gates is leaving MS.
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I love the comments on that site:
...I have always admired Bill Gates himself to a certain degree...
...I agree. I admire Bill Gates, because he has given away over 1/3 of all the money he has ever made...
...I think Gates did a fine job with his too, I wonder if microsoft will be any different without him... Bill rocks...
Ahhhhh ... people ... so easily fooled and manipulated ... no wonder it's so easy to get filthy rich with so little effort, the only trick is to stay with the facade to the very end ... as philosophers say it:
Make people think you are good while doing as you wish ... the bad :D
Appear to be doing good things while doing the opposite.
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I admire Bill Gates. He's among the best businessmen in history.
What happens because of him is a different matter entirely. ;)
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I admire Bill Gates in the same way I admire Hitler.
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I admire Bill Gates. He's among the best businessmen in history.
What happens because of him is a different matter entirely. ;)
I cannot agree with you here at all. I believe that all the problems we accuse Microsoft of, including virus propagation, security holes, cross-platform incompatibility, and general instability, were part of his business plan from the beginning.
I can certainly agree that he holds the record for most money ever made, and perhaps even a record for the most convoluted and contradictory business plan. But the web of lies which Microsoft uses to dupe the customer into begging for more anti-customer punishment can hardly be called good business.
Recap - ridiculous monetary success based on lies != good businessman
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Recap - ridiculous monetary success based on lies != good businessman
Except: good business =! good for the customer (necessarily). If you've got the general public begging you for your shitty product (see: stock footage of Bill autographing Windows 98 retail boxes), I'd say you've conquered the idea of business as far as it can go. He may not be an ethical businessman, but that's why ethics is given its own course in college. ;)
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Good can mean ethical too though.
As a businessman, he is an excellent performer.
But he's a bad person.
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Good can mean ethical too though.
As a businessman, he is an excellent performer.
But he's a bad person.
Well put :thumbup:
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I have to agree that Mr Gates has been very successful as a 'business' man. He converted the entire industry to his product.
But I don't like the guy, and don't respect his views on the industry. I think hes a pretty average software engineer, perhaps due to putting business first. Which in turn may have been the reason he was so successful.
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I wonder why didn't that chair throwing guy replaced him ?
Gates := evil > Me likes evil people :)
but seriously i hate that fucker !
because he uses that facade !
like: "I'ma good person... no seriously"
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Me likes evil people :)
You like evil people? Think I can get a position in your government? :D
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Crap, now I'll have to change my name...
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you like evil people? Think I can get a position in your government?
i think you could :)
will be glad to see a double hadooken :D
[OFFTOPIC]remembar that strip when the 4 light woriors are in the dead universe :) ... I would like the inf copyes of Black mage to do a hadoken
all at onece but ... :) life [/OFFTOPIC]
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http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060618
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i think you could :)
will be glad to see a double hadooken :D
Street Fighter Ryu's Wave Motion Punch?
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Bill Gates is not a good business person. With the help of his equally sleazy father, a corporate attorney who helped establish the law/lobby firm of Preston, Gates & Ellis, Billy became the most successful con man/thief in world history. Now he's telling the world he's going to step down so he can devote all his time, energy and - most important - money to saving the world.
As I've said before, anyone who wants to know the truth about Bill Gates' "philanthropy" need only take a look at Seattle, where Bill Gates didn't even pay fair rent for his philanthropic HEADQUARTERS. Focus, especially, on public education, beginning with Bill Gates' short-lived K-12 Leadership Institute.
Bill Gates is an as*hole who has launched the biggest phony philanthropic crusade in world history. Evil or not, the Carnegies and Rockefellers will long be remembered by the libraries, banks and other institutions they left us. What will Bill Gates' legacy be?
Answer: The Seattle Public Library, where Seattle City Council member Nick "The Earthworm" Licata invites "poet populists" to read their works. What a joke.
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yes mobrien_12 ... that one !
on nuklearpower.com's web comic
they are makeing fun of manny things :)
a high level spell is known as Hadouken :)
read it ...
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Bill Gates is not a good business person. With the help of his equally sleazy father, a corporate attorney who helped establish the law/lobby firm of Preston, Gates & Ellis, Billy became the most successful con man/thief in world history. Now he's telling the world he's going to step down so he can devote all his time, energy and - most important - money to saving the world.
As I've said before, anyone who wants to know the truth about Bill Gates' "philanthropy" need only take a look at Seattle, where Bill Gates didn't even pay fair rent for his philanthropic HEADQUARTERS. Focus, especially, on public education, beginning with Bill Gates' short-lived K-12 Leadership Institute.
Bill Gates is an as*hole who has launched the biggest phony philanthropic crusade in world history. Evil or not, the Carnegies and Rockefellers will long be remembered by the libraries, banks and other institutions they left us. What will Bill Gates' legacy be?
Answer: The Seattle Public Library, where Seattle City Council member Nick "The Earthworm" Licata invites "poet populists" to read their works. What a joke.
you don't understand what we mean by 'Business'
Billy became the most successful con man/thief in world history
eg a brilliant 'Businessman'
we never said he had ethics only he knew how to use the system and people to get where he is.
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you don't understand what we mean by 'Business'
Billy became the most successful con man/thief in world history
eg a brilliant 'Businessman'
we never said he had ethics only he knew how to use the system and people to get where he is.
I think Adam Smith would be upset if he saw this. The idea of a corporate tyrant controlling the market through lies and deceptions is just about as anti-capital as you can get.
The fact that we post-corporate consumers somehow think of this as "the way things are" is disgusting.
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The fact that we post-corporate consumers somehow think of this as "the way things are" is disgusting.
Sometime I look at the world and wonder "this is not the way things are supposed to be?"
Do you do that too?
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I think Adam Smith would be upset if he saw this. The idea of a corporate tyrant controlling the market through lies and deceptions is just about as anti-capital as you can get.
The fact that we post-corporate consumers somehow think of this as "the way things are" is disgusting.
There are alot of people including myself that don't like how people use the system and the fact that they succeed because of it buts thats life.
Is it fair that an employee that makes his boss a millionaire and only earns a 50k annual salary. Is that fair ?
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Sometime I look at the world and wonder "this is not the way things are supposed to be?"
Do you do that too?
Every damn day on this cursed planet ;)
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There are alot of people including myself that don't like how people use the system and the fact that they succeed because of it buts thats life.
The "that's life" argument is often used to explain the Windows monopoly, too. But millions of people are using their money and their words to disagree. In fact, a bunch of those people got organized and used the internet as a base from which to strike at the lies and deceptions surrounding Microsoft. Unfortunately, very few people are interested in striking against the lies and deceptions that allowed Microsoft to legally become evil.
Is it fair that an employee that makes his boss a millionaire and only earns a 50k annual salary. Is that fair ?
No. What's even more perverse is that the employee himself desires to be a millionaire and live off the toil of others.
[OFFTOPIC]Anyone else ever notice the green dichotomy? Everywhere you go, you are confronted with this message that "money isn't everything". And yet, everywhere you go, you are confronted with the sick reality that money really is everything. "Money can't buy happiness" - but we all believe that it can. How should we be expected to behave in the face of such a mixed message?[/OFFTOPIC]
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[OFFTOPIC]Anyone else ever notice the green dichotomy? Everywhere you go, you are confronted with this message that "money isn't everything". And yet, everywhere you go, you are confronted with the sick reality that money really is everything. "Money can't buy happiness" - but we all believe that it can. How should we be expected to behave in the face of such a mixed message?[/OFFTOPIC]
It's not a mixed message ... it's hypocrisy, say one thing and believe another ... it's the way EVERYTHING works here :)
The hard part is keeping it together ... keeping a solid, bullet-proof facade ... look like the most richeous and be the most evil. Really I don't believe in good and evil, it's what benefits you and what doesn't ... most people apply this to society as a whole, which is very difficult. How can you be sure what is good for society ? Good = what helps society, bad = what harms society. A bit too Utilitarian if you ask me. Still, you will only see the facade of everyone, never what they are really like.
As for money, I'd like to say it means nothing, but in truth money can buy you anything :D Oh, wait, money can't buy me love ... can't buy me loooohoveee
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But money can buy you something that looks, sounds, feels, and smells a whole lot like love.
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But money can buy you something that looks, sounds, feels, and smells a whole lot like love.
You forgot "tastes" particularly in areas where that's still legal. :D
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capitalism is not fair.
people who support the idea of a capitalist system and yet they bleat on about how other people are cheating and lying to make money are idiots. surely they can see that a capitalist entrepreneurial system encourages this sort of "innovative" thinking. the american dream is that anybody can get to the "top" if he uses his wits to best advantage, and this means swindling and lying, that IS how the world is, fair or not.
If you want to stop this lying and swindling, then a capitalist system is not the system you want to have in place.