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Miscellaneous => Technical Support => Topic started by: Aloone_Jonez on 29 July 2006, 20:10
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I've been trying to upgrade from Breezy 5.1 to Dapper 6.06 using the auto-update program and it gives me the following error message:
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/non-free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/non-free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
There is no problem with my network connection, (I'm logged on an posting this with no problems). I think it's to do with the update program looking in the worng place shouldn't it be looking in http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/drapper/ and not http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/?
How do I fix this?
Is there another easy way to upgrade?
I don't want to reformat again, if so I'm switching to a distro whic will allow OS upgrades without having to start again, even Windows allows this to some degree.
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same thing happend to me a few months ago when Dapper first came out.
maybe try changing every instance of 'breezy' to 'dapper' within sources.lst when apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[Note: this did work but screwed up X for me so I had to do a clean dapper install)
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Where is sources.lst?
I've done a search and I can't find it.
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probably because it's called sources.list, and it's in /etc/apt
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That didn't work either!
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/dapper/Release.gpg Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/dapper/free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/dapper/non-free/source/Sources.gz Connection failed
This is shit!
I downloaded Mandriva CD a few days but I'm reluctant to install it as I can't be bothered. I'd rather stick with Ubuntu I've been happy with it apart from this is there anything else you can suggest before I install yet another Linux distribution?
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Perhaps that mirror is just getting spanked by people like you upgrading.
Anyhow changing sources.list will not help your upgrade unless you actually using apt, or synaptic etc.
Are you using apt-get?
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I don't know, I'm just clicking on the update icon on the right hand corner of the screen. Oh my God I'm sounding like a Winwoes looser!
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I really think that if you have more understanding of how the upgrade process works, you will know why there is a problem, and perhaps even how to fix it.
And, I hate to be mean, but if you're going to click on a button and expect results every time without ever bothering to learn something new, then maybe you should stick with Windows. What kind of person just installs a new OS every time something doesn't work for them? My dad, for one. He was ready to buy a new computer when his hard drive died.
For starters, here's an apt howto:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
since it seems that Ubuntu uses apt for package management.
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I really think that if you have more understanding of how the upgrade process works, you will know why there is a problem, and perhaps even how to fix it.
I don't mind doing some reading but there is a limit, I don't really care about how it works I just want it to work.
And, I hate to be mean, but if you're going to click on a button and expect results every time without ever bothering to learn something new, then maybe you should stick with Windows.
So you admit that Windows is easier to use than Linux!
What kind of person just installs a new OS every time something doesn't work for them?
It depends, if the effort required to fix the problem than the effort required to install a different (and probably better OS) then there's nothing wrong with installing a new OS.
My dad, for one. He was ready to buy a new computer when his hard drive died.
Now that's just ignorant.
For starters, here's an apt howto:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
since it seems that Ubuntu uses apt for package management.
I'll check it out though I don't want to jump through too many hoops just to get it working.
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So you admit that Windows is easier to use than Linux!
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I'll check it out though I don't want to jump through too many hoops just to get it working.
Windows, thanks to this really huge marketing firm called Microsoft, is a part of all of our computer pasts. It's not necessarily easier, but to anyone who came of age in the 90s, it is probably infinitely more familiar.
I've said it before, and I guess I have to say it again - jumping through hoops is part of the fun and experience of Linux. If you're not interested in learning and solving problems, then Linux is not for you. To be honest, I run into Linux problems almost every day. Not because it's buggy or shitty, but because I don't understand things properly. So each problem is a trip to Google or asking advice, and in the end it gets solved and I never have to worry about it again. Fuck yeah, this is FUN! Linux and reading and crossword puzzles make you smarter. TV, Windows, and scratching your ass might not exactly make you dumber, but ... I think you see where I'm going with this.
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Whatever, but I thought that the whole point of Ubuntu is to make it easy for people, remember it's supposed to be "Linux for human beings" well I know this is shit, it's Linux for geeks, which is the way it always will be.
Also an auto-update thingy that pops up when I start my computer then fails is a prime example of buggyness. Either you make it easy to use or you don't, none of this "omg we're going to make an auto-update tool that normally works fine for normal updates but the user will have to fuck around a lot when an OS upgrade is required" shit.
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Whatever, but I thought that the whole point of Ubuntu is to make it easy for people, remember it's supposed to be "Linux for human beings" well I know this is shit, it's Linux for geeks, which is the way it always will be.
Yea, it'd be so much friendlier if it was based on NT :rolleyes:
Report a fooking bug if you find one (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug/+login).
Ubuntu is very fucking user-friendly my friend.
Ubuntu 6.06 download page btw (http://www.ubuntu.com/download).
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I dunno try Fedora ... it's worked pretty decently so far and it's quite user friendly (probably more than Ubuntu). I know it has recieved a lot of negative comments, but it's actually not that bad. I was thinking of installing something a bit more complex, like maybe Arch Linux (cuz it's opitmized for i686) but upon reading the manual for a bit it looks like it'll take a shitload of time to get it right (much like Gentoo, Slackware, etc.).
I can re-install Fedora in 20 min flat if necessary (and maybe 30 min more for updates depending on your connection speed and the number of packages you chose)
from: archlinux.org
What You Will Need
* a working knowledge of Linux and your system, esp. your hardware
* Arch Linux installation media (see the mirror list)
o Either the Arch Linux Install CD, or
o 2-7 floppy disks, depending on what you need: SCSI, ethernet, etc.
* an i686-based computer (PPro, Pentium 2 or higher, Athlon/Duron, etc. Note that AMD K6, Transmeta Crusoe, CyrixIII, and VIA-C3 NOT supported.)
* some time to kill
Really the only thing I could ask more of from Fedora is a bit more reliability ... but most reliability problems I've had so far were actually cuz things weren't quite configured properly ... SELinux being the main culprit, turning SELinux off will make Fedora just as stable as any other distro, and much easier to use, upgrade, re-install (if necessary) etc.
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Trying Fedora won't solve AJ's problem. His problem is probably that his apt isn't configured properly. This happens to everyone every once in awhile, it has happened to me too. So even if he installs Fedora and uses synaptic or smart, it's probably going to get fucked up one day, like when a certain version of apt is incompatible with a certain repository that the distro requires, or something like that (I think my problem occurred during the FC3-FC4 upgrade). It would be so much better for him to figure out how to solve it. Tossing a distro if it has a minor problem like this is like buying a new car after your friend vomits in your front seat.
Although I am not a Ubuntu guru (I'm barely a Ubuntu user), I suspect that AJ's apt problems are being sugar-coated by the gui - it doesn't give him any useful information, just a failure notice. That's one of the drawbacks of trying to hide everything from the user. If you want things to work, you have to have useful feedback and you might even have to get your hands dirty.
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Ubuntu uses synaptic for the Iconified and automated system updates/upgrades.
Apt-get is ever-present as well.
When they released 6.06 LTS, they announced the repositories were different and the way Ubuntu works is slightly different as well.
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I've given it another go.
I did some Googling and found a tutorial, I typed some commands into bash and there were loads of errors but it's seemed to have worked. I think it might be fucked though, everytime it boots memtest pops up, and goes through many loops, and doesn't generate any errors. I left it running for 2 and a half hours and it just kept looping round, when I pressed ESC to quit and reboot it just locked up.The first time I saw memtest Ithought it was a bios thing as it looked like my BIOS setup, however I soon discovered this wasn't the case as I could still access the boot menu and BIOS set up. I've bypassed it and booted into Ubuntu and it seems to be running alright, the version info screen says version 6.06 so I'm not too bothered at the moment, if anything else fucks up I'll tell you lot.
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Perhaps you could also enlighten us as to what bash commands you used, and what sort of messages you got.
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Perhaps you could also enlighten us as to what bash commands you used,
I can't really remember exactly, I usesd a tutorial similar to this (http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-upgrade-from-ubuntu-linux-breezy-to-dapper.html)
what sort of messages you got.
Similar to the ones in my previous post after apt-get update, then far too many screenfuls for my terminal buffer to store after apt-get -y dist-upgrade.
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Well I've never succesfully used apt for long periods of time, so I wouldn't know (I use yum).
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What the hell is yum? Another package manager? Why do they have to use such silly names?
How do I set it up without fucking up anything else?
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What the hell is yum? Another package manager? Why do they have to use such silly names?
How do I set it up without fucking up anything else?
It's an rpm manager, so you need rpms to install. Using ubuntu you use deb packages don't you ? Then you might have to stick with apt.
http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/index.ptml (http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/index.ptml)
BTW, why not ask the Ubuntu team about your problem, they might know a solution.
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How about we have a look at your sources.list?
Here's a fiendishly comprehensive one:
http://italy.copybase.ch/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/
Here's a basic one from the Ubuntu guide:
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
If it looks okay, consider the possibility that you have some sort of network issue, like a firewall, or you require a proxy. If the latter is the case, here's the info on how to do it:
http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/apt.conf.5.html
Suuposedly, there are sample conf files available in /usr/share/doc.
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Alright, attached is a copy of my sources.list
By the way:
BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
What does that mean?
Does it mean may contain warez, I don't like the sound of this.
[verwijderd door de beheerder]
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Alright, attached is a copy of my sources.list
By the way:
What does that mean?
Does it mean may contain warez, I don't like the sound of this.
It may contain things that are illegal to distribute in the US ... like codecs and stuff. Livna (the Fedora Core repo of a similar nature) contains stuff like that too ... I've been using it for let's see about a year and the cops have yet to bash down my door and hawl me off.
Here is the wiki definition of the Backports repo:
Backporting is the process of compiling and providing new packages for a distribution that no longer gets any updates except for security purposes - for example backports are often made to bring the latest, greatest version of a crucial piece of software to a version of an OS that it isn't officially available for. Specifically, when backporting, the package is taken from the current development version of the OS.
source: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
For example take a look at the packages in the hoary restricted section:
http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/
I see lots of codecs, many of them non-free and illegal to distribute in the US.
P.S. Fuck da polis !!!
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I still haven't managed to perform all the updates but I've managed to install WINE and it's come a long way since I last tried it. It runs OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 and I haven't noticed any bugs, it works so well and fast, I don't know why I've bothered to install the Linux version! I still can't get all my old Windows software to run but it's a lot better than it used to be. I supposes it's because there haven't been any new Windows versions released for awhile and this'll all change when Vista appears, sadly I can't imagine it running any Vista programs. :(
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would you want too!!!!!!!!!
Just run the Linux version and you won't need a library interpreter at all. It's actually faster I'm sure!
As for Vista progs...
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would you want too!!!!!!!!!
I think it's reasonable to say, although the Beta has been out there and undoubtedly, work has begun. It will be a while before Wine has Vista progs ready to work right.
But...again I have to say...
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would you want too!!!!!!!!!
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Cuz Window$ is cool :D
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why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why
would you want too!!!!!!!!!
Because the Windows version is easier to set up and I only have to install one program.
Just run the Linux version and you won't need a library interpreter at all. It's actually faster I'm sure!
I didn't really notice much difference in speed, infact it's fater because it has a quickstarter.
As for Vista progs...
why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why
would you want too!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps because there might be no decent Linux alternative for the program you need?
I think it's reasonable to say, although the Beta has been out there and undoubtedly, work has begun. It will be a while before Wine has Vista progs ready to work right.
Just thinking, Vista programs will all be .net which is supposed to be open so it should be better, there again I'm probably wrong.
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.net programs should run through mono, I think, or should at least be easily portable to other platforms.
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http://ubuntuforums.org/ is an excellent community btw, they'd definetly help with your ubuntu problems.