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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Paladin9 on 27 January 2003, 02:19

Title: .NET
Post by: Paladin9 on 27 January 2003, 02:19
So, what the hell is this .net shit?  What is it used for and how does it compare to NT?
Title: .NET
Post by: Refalm on 27 January 2003, 02:37
No, I actually tried it...

It's slow and has anoying features... Windows NT half-decent, and probably the best OS Microsoft ever made... made a bit, because IBM made most of Windows NT.

To stay on-topic, Windows .NET, which is now called Windows Server 2003, is a joke as a web-server, or even a desktop OS... it's slower and more anoying than any previous Windows versions you ever saw. The main reason people are still buying Windows, because it's easy-to-use (if your not counting the all the bugs and random crashes).
Windows Server 2003 (NOTE: the alpha version which we tested), however is more complicated than it should be.

[ January 26, 2003: Message edited by: Refalm ]

Title: .NET
Post by: Stryker on 27 January 2003, 02:41
already posted (http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000459)
Title: .NET
Post by: Paladin9 on 27 January 2003, 08:39
What is .net based on (i.e.  UNIX, NT, etc...)
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Post by: Stryker on 27 January 2003, 08:44
quote:
Originally posted by Paladin9:
What is .net based on (i.e.  UNIX, NT, etc...)


unix... lol, it's microsoft we're talking about here. I'm sure it's NT. if you are intrested look around http://www.microsoft.com (http://www.microsoft.com) for information. i posted a link in the thread in my previous post.
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Post by: TheQuirk on 27 January 2003, 21:47
.NET is based on .NET--it's a whole new "thing".
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Post by: voidmain on 27 January 2003, 10:01
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
-it's a whole new "thing".


Could that be a first?  (http://smile.gif)
Title: .NET
Post by: KernelPanic on 27 January 2003, 14:21
quote:
Originally posted by TheQuirk:
.NET is based on .NET--it's a whole new "thing".


No, it's just a distributed version of the same old "shit".
Title: .NET
Post by: Paladin9 on 27 January 2003, 21:09
I thought .net was something new that did not run on NT, but something else.
Title: .NET
Post by: Calum on 27 January 2003, 21:56
maybe OS/2?
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Post by: cocoamix on 27 January 2003, 22:15
I just want to know: how does M$ manage to use a top-level domain name as its own buzzword?

Are they going to claim .com and .org as their babies too?

To me, and millions of others .net is a top-level domain name, not some bullshit from M$.

[ January 27, 2003: Message edited by: cocoamix ]

Title: .NET
Post by: xyle_one on 28 January 2003, 02:15
dotNet is dumb. as is all of microsofts "innovative" new.... things. it is supposed to create an environment that will allow programmers and developers use whichever language they want and have the program run in a similar environment. namely, windows. you can use any microsoft programming language to program for a microsoft platform. that my freinds is one degree of seperation. all businesses using the same platform, the same software. all owned & controlled by one company. scary & i dont think people will dig it. once they learn. but then again. this is just what i have gathered from reading & searching online. and of course from microsofts lovely marketing department.
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Post by: Paladin9 on 28 January 2003, 21:12
That still does not really answer my question.  I already know that it probably sucks.  I want to know what exacally it is for and what it runs on behind the scenes. Microsoft as usuall, always blows about how great it is, but does not do a good job of explaining what it is.
Title: .NET
Post by: Stryker on 28 January 2003, 21:18
quote:
Originally posted by Paladin9:
That still does not really answer my question.  I already know that it probably sucks.  I want to know what exacally it is for and what it runs on behind the scenes. Microsoft as usuall, always blows about how great it is, but does not do a good job of explaining what it is.


And they are the ones making it, how can you expect us to explain it any better? where's our source of information? same as yours. it's not developed completely yet, i haven't touched it. i dont know. we'll have to wait, but hopefully never have to find out.
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Post by: raptor on 29 January 2003, 05:00
.NET is the name of their 2003 server series.

RC2 was released, Were the bugs even fixed in RC1?
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Post by: flap on 29 January 2003, 05:15
quote:
Originally posted by Paladin9:
So, what the hell is this .net shit?  What is it used for and how does it compare to NT?


Who cares?
Title: .NET
Post by: Stryker on 29 January 2003, 05:22
quote:
Originally posted by flap:


Who cares?


couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by: raptor on 29 January 2003, 07:30
quote:
Who cares?



obviously the poster does.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Stryker on 29 January 2003, 07:37
quote:
Originally posted by raptor:



obviously the poster does.   :rolleyes:  


and this is the wrong place for him I think
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Post by: choasforages on 30 January 2003, 05:24
when the servers in the backend crash the machenery in the factorys, thats one degree/*too little*/ of seperation
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Post by: cloudstrife on 30 January 2003, 08:25
.NET server is simply Windows XP Server Edition.

I have RC2 and boy oh boy does it bloooooow. It's like XP, without the gooey fischer-price shit, and slower.
Title: .NET
Post by: xyle_one on 30 January 2003, 22:38
quote:
Originally posted by chaosforages:
when the servers in the backend crash the machenery in the factorys, thats one degree/*too little*/ of seperation

  :D
Title: .NET
Post by: flap on 30 January 2003, 22:44
.NET isn't an OS btw. There might be a .net edition of windows but .net as a whole is just a set of web-oriented client/server technologies and dev tools.
Title: .NET
Post by: cdhgold on 1 February 2003, 01:43
To give an idea of what a pig .net server is I installed the RC2 version on an older system Dual Pentium Pro 200 with 128 MB of RAM and just to boot up to desktop it was sucking up 188 MB of swap file. I did find one way to fix all problems with it. I'm now installing Redhat 8.0 on the same system isntead of .net aka XP wanna-be server
Title: .NET
Post by: leoric1928 on 1 February 2003, 21:41
Officially,. .NET "is the Microsoft XML Web services platform, a way of working that allow you to create software as a service." At least that's what the press release says.Back here in real life, the whole .NET thing is really just a Microsoft vision based on distributed computing, a dream of being able to share information over the Internet regardless of operating system, device or programming language.
- by Karl Moore

but for me .NET is just a clone of a JAVA wherein you can run one program to a multi platform, I've heared they hire one Suns personnel to design this .NET thing.
Title: .NET
Post by: Vader76 on 18 February 2003, 02:05
quote:
Originally posted by cdhgold:
To give an idea of what a pig .net server is I installed the RC2 version on an older system Dual Pentium Pro 200 with 128 MB of RAM and just to boot up to desktop it was sucking up 188 MB of swap file. I did find one way to fix all problems with it. I'm now installing Redhat 8.0 on the same system isntead of .net aka XP wanna-be server



maybe you should read the requirements before installing..
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Post by: xyle_one on 18 February 2003, 02:42
quote:
Originally posted by Vader76:
maybe you should read the requirements before installing..

you are an idiot. where is the sense in upgrading all of my hardware just to run an operating system?? i am currently running redhat 8 on a pII 450 with like 124 mb ram. just try that with windows (pick a version). you shouldnt have to upgrade hardware everytime windows releases another bloated peice of spyware that they call an operating system.
Title: .NET
Post by: Vader76 on 18 February 2003, 19:07
quote:
Originally posted by Xyle: iGeek...:

you are an idiot. where is the sense in upgrading all of my hardware just to run an operating system?? i am currently running redhat 8 on a pII 450 with like 124 mb ram. just try that with windows (pick a version). you shouldnt have to upgrade hardware everytime windows releases another bloated peice of spyware that they call an operating system.


this is name calling already? very childish
you can't compare the 2 OS. Get with the times. Do you expect all the new software to run on old machines?  Why don't you run the redhat 8 on a old 286.

For your information I do have a P166 with 128MB RAM running .NET. And it runs fine for what it suppose to do (Web server and DNS Server)
Title: .NET
Post by: JH on 18 February 2003, 19:23
Good answer what .NET is (http://www.lohnet.org/~hornlo/mutterings/wdjef/)
Title: .NET
Post by: Vader76 on 22 February 2003, 22:55
quote:
Originally posted by X11: Slackware Commando.:
Vader76, you get with the times, Multiuser, a decent shell, how do i ssh to my Windows .NET system and do anything usefull. Windows Terminal Services? bahahahaha maybe on a lan, but accross cable or T1? hell no. Give me a shell account anyday.


I do remote access via terminal services every day form my school to home (DSL) with no probs at all. No lag at all. Its almost like working on the machine if you were actually there.
Title: .NET
Post by: KernelPanic on 22 February 2003, 23:04
quote:
Originally posted by X11: Slackware Commando.:


no its NT.


The core OS is NT, but the wider .NET concept isn't about the OS. It's about distributed objects.
Title: .NET
Post by: cdhgold on 23 February 2003, 07:24
quote:
Originally posted by Vader76:



maybe you should read the requirements before installing..


according to your own posts you are running .net on an even less equipped system than I tried it on ..  so I guess you don't read the requirements either .. my point was that .net eats up more resources that redhat 8.0 both of which are the "current" versions from theie respective manufacturer .. allowing for the fact that the .net version I tried is BETA vs. 8.0 which is not not .. if .net is running fine for you then great more power to you running what i consider a Piece of S#$t wanna be NOS .. I will not even put WinDoze on a system that I count on to be stable. My personal network consists of 1 WinDoze 2000 .. 2 Redhat 8.0 which I'm currently using to learn and become profecient with and 1 system running my preferred NOs Netware 6. Each of which have their strengths and weakneesses .. don't try to salm me for something youa re even more guilty of .. we all agree to some degree that microsoft sucks and is a pig or we wouldn't be on this site ..
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Post by: slave on 23 February 2003, 11:29
quote:
Originally posted by Vader76:


this is name calling already? very childish
you can't compare the 2 OS. Get with the times. Do you expect all the new software to run on old machines?  Why don't you run the redhat 8 on a old 286.

For your information I do have a P166 with 128MB RAM running .NET. And it runs fine for what it suppose to do (Web server and DNS Server)


I sure hope you didn't spend money on that piece of crap software!  Why don't you use Linux instead?  Linux is perfect for servers.  It comes with source code, runs on a 486, is more secure, more stable, and more free.  With Microsoft all you get is a fist up the ass from Ballmer.  And that's never fun.
Title: .NET
Post by: Vader76 on 23 February 2003, 23:42
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:


I sure hope you didn't spend money on that piece of crap software!  Why don't you use Linux instead?  Linux is perfect for servers.  It comes with source code, runs on a 486, is more secure, more stable, and more free.  With Microsoft all you get is a fist up the ass from Ballmer.  And that's never fun.


My server runs Small Business Server 2000... works fine with exchange, sql server, isa server on one box..

i got 5 free licenses for xp for beta testing XP...

I've never tried linux before, which one should i get? Does warcraft III run on it?  (http://smile.gif)
Title: .NET
Post by: slave on 24 February 2003, 00:28
Get RedHat Linux 8, you can download it here:

http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html (http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html)

Here is a screenshot of my GNOME desktop, so you can see what it looks like:

http://www.insanebaboon.netfirms.com/desktop3.html (http://www.insanebaboon.netfirms.com/desktop3.html)

Warcraft III is one of my favorite games, and fortunately it works perfectly on Linux with the help of winex. (http://www.transgaming.com)

Other games I have installed on my computer are Half Life, counterstrike, diablo 2, and UT 2003.
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Post by: Vader76 on 24 February 2003, 01:04
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Get RedHat Linux 8, you can download it here:

http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html (http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html)

Here is a screenshot of my GNOME desktop, so you can see what it looks like:

http://www.insanebaboon.netfirms.com/desktop3.html (http://www.insanebaboon.netfirms.com/desktop3.html)

Warcraft III is one of my favorite games, and fortunately it works perfectly on Linux with the help of winex. (http://www.transgaming.com)

Other games I have installed on my computer are Half Life, counterstrike, diablo 2, and UT 2003.


nice!!

i'll give it a shot...
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Post by: Vader76 on 24 February 2003, 01:16
holy smokes 5 CDs! Do i need all of them?
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Post by: slave on 24 February 2003, 01:39
Nah, just the first 3.  The last two are source CD's.  If you don't install developer tools you only need the first 2.