Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => macOS => Topic started by: mobrien_12 on 19 February 2006, 20:18
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/17/AR2006021701911.html
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Two busy Web sites that focus on Apple Computer Inc.'s Mac OS X operating system went silent Friday just days after they featured links to information on how to hack the software and run it on non-Apple PCs.
The OSx86 Project Web site stated Apple had served it with a notice on Thursday citing violations of the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and the site was reviewing all of its discussion forum postings as a result.
Using the DMCA to squash websites that talk about putting OSX on non-Apple PC's.... very very dissapointing.
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Yeah ... looks like Apple is changing into Apple$$$$ ... kinda sad really.
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http://osx86project.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=120&Itemid=2]As[/url] most of you know, two days ago we were contacted by an Apple representative concerning links, posted by our members, to the newest patches by Maxxuss on his site. Since the beginning, we have made it known that we would be very willing to work with Apple regarding any concerns they had with their intellectual property and this site (I actually wrote Steve about it a few months ago
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Hmmmm ... but there were 2 sites ... what about the other one ?
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Hmmmm ... but there were 2 sites ... what about the other one ?
Oh crap:
The other Web site, Win2OSX.net, was completely shut down.
Fuck sake Apple.
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Yeah ... looks like Apple is changing into Apple$$$$ ... kinda sad really.
"Apple" doesn't have an S in it. So no dollar sign for you. :p
And, the website doesn't appear to have been "squashed" - it's online, relatively unscathed. Nothing to worry about.
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And, the website doesn't appear to have been "squashed" - it's online, relatively unscathed. Nothing to worry about.
One out of two of them is still online anyhow.
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"Apple" doesn't have an S in it. So no dollar sign for you. :p
We can still call it Mac O$, so there. :p
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Macinto$h
So, people, don't use "s" in any company/product/brand names ever.
EDIT: $teve Job$
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Appl
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Appl€ (thank you Euro-trash keyboard :))
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I don't know... I can see both sides on this. The issue is that the OSX86 guys at this point are doing things that require OBVIOUSLY PIRATED SOFTWARE. There's not yet a retail boxed version of OS X for Intel, so, that means that the only versions they could be running would be pirate.
That's the issue that Apple is having.
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If the sites were obviously pirating sites, then I suppose Apple was right ... but if they weren't, then they were wrong. Obviously the one site that was spared doesn't damage Apple's reputation, but the other one might ... if it wasn't a pirating site.
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I don't know... I can see both sides on this. The issue is that the OSX86 guys at this point are doing things that require OBVIOUSLY PIRATED SOFTWARE. There's not yet a retail boxed version of OS X for Intel, so, that means that the only versions they could be running would be pirate.
That's the issue that Apple is having.
Wheter or not people posting to the sites were running a "pirate" version of OSX is irrelevant.
The key question here is: were the sites distributing "pirate" software, or were they talking about how to run OSX on non-apple hardware and maybe contributing original code and patches and kludges to do it.
If it was the first case (and I don't think it was) then the takedown is valid. If it's the second case, it would be like MS using the DMCA to keep sites from discussing ways to put Linux on the XBOX (which even MS didn't have the stones to do).
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I suppose it's impossible to "build your own mac" now that you'll need to get by the TPM-check-crap. Even though the hardware is just as easy to get, it won't run OS X unless you buy off Apple.
Shame.
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I do believe that there were forum threads about where and how to get Intel builds of OS X that included torrent links, et cetera.
Just as our webmaster and admins would be responsible if someone were posting piracy and warez links here, so was OSX86. Remember that they weren't doing any reverse engineering on the system, only replacing bits with the corresponding part from Darwin, and adding a few little bits of code. I'm pretty sure that's NOT a SLA violation, as there are myriad OS X "enhancers" that use Darwin code, such as XDarwin and Darwine and Apple hasn't said anything about them in the five years that they've been around.
Also, OtherWorldComputing's XPostFacto serves a similar function to OSX86... allow OS X to run on "unsupported" hardware. I'm running 10.4.5 on an original 300MHz clamshell iBook. Remember that 10.4 "requires" a built-in FireWire port. XPF can also make OS X boot and install on totally out-there hardware. I have a Power Mac 6500 (250MHz PPC 603) which XPF can force 10.2 and older to run on. So much for "G3 required".
And Apple hasn't said anything about XPF...
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I suppose it's impossible to "build your own mac" now that you'll need to get by the TPM-check-crap. Even though the hardware is just as easy to get, it won't run OS X unless you buy off Apple.
Shame.
Making you buy a mac computer in order to use their operating system is kinda greedy if you ask me ... or what else can we call it ?
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Making you buy a mac computer in order to use their operating system is kinda greedy if you ask me ... or what else can we call it ?
It's their business model. The OS is not expensive in-box, and the software bundle distributed with the hardware is rather generous. And they have no activation or anything like that. On top of that, they don't have to support all the hardware in the world like MS has to do with Windows, which is probably part of why OS X costs so much less than Windows.
As for building your own Mac...you could build a "Power Mac G4" for yourself, but it's not very convenient, or cheap, for that matter. The retail price of a 1.42ghz G4 is much higher than your typical 3GHz P4, and for duals...ouch.
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"PIRATED SOFTWARE"
ahem ... hm_murdock ... do you
even know what pirate means?
Do you know that this word is thrown around like a flag
just to make people look bad in front of lame idiot masses ?
they do not win or lose anything ...so they are not pirates :P
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As for building your own Mac...you could build a "Power Mac G4" for yourself, but it's not very convenient, or cheap, for that matter.
And it's dated. Who wants to build a dated computer?
The retail price of a 1.42ghz G4 is much higher than your typical 3GHz P4, and for duals...ouch.
I build my computers to save money anyhow.
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Why would you want a G4 anyways, unless you're out for a notebook? It's obsolete. You can get a nice iMac G5 for a reasonable price, and you can upgrade and get the Power Mac.
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Why would you want a G4 anyways, unless you're out for a notebook? It's obsolete. You can get a nice iMac G5 for a reasonable price, and you can upgrade and get the Power Mac.
Or I can build my own computer (PC or anything else that ISN'T Mac) for even cheaper with a large choice of CPU/etc.
Do Macs ever turn up tops when it comes to getting the cheapest good computer and it is allowed (i.e. always when you have the intelligence/time/etc.) to build your own computer?
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Why would you want a G4 anyways, unless you're out for a notebook? It's obsolete. You can get a nice iMac G5 for a reasonable price, and you can upgrade and get the Power Mac.
Because a G4 is cheaper than any of the G5 systems and still receives top-tier software support from Apple. A fast G3 is also nothing to balk at. All iApps give full capabilities on G4, and all of the pro apps perform on G4.
"PIRATED SOFTWARE"
ahem ... hm_murdock ... do you
even know what pirate means?
Do you know that this word is thrown around like a flag
just to make people look bad in front of lame idiot masses ?
they do not win or lose anything ...so they are not pirates :P
Shut the fuck up.
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[OFFTOPIC]
Pirate (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pirate)
There are, of course, different kinds of pirates.
- Liberal Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Pirates) - see butt pirate
- Conservative Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Conservative_Pirates&action=edit) - The most vile of all pirates. known to plunder whole countries for booty
- Moderate Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Moderate_Pirates&action=edit) - Cannot take a stand on any issue.
- Ninja Pirate (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Pirate), a pirate that is also a ninja
- Weekend (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Weekend) Pirates - Rare pirates that have mastered the Ninja art of the Weekend proof.
- Music Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Music_Pirates&action=edit) - Possibly the best type of pirate, and the ones with the largest ego.
- Space Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Space_Pirates&action=edit) - Mostly made up of giant lobster people and led by the illegitimate son of Ridley Scott (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Ridley_Scott&action=edit), Ridley (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Ridley&action=edit).
- Steve the Pirate (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Steve_the_Pirate&action=edit) - 75% pure pirate.
- Mutant space monkey zombie ninja pirates from Mars (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Mutant_space_monkey_zombie_ninja_pirates_from_Mars) - arguably the coolest kind of pirates.
- Butt pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Butt_pirates&action=edit) - extremely homosexual and ready to steal your booty.
- Satanic Pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Satanic_Pirates&action=edit) - Pirates hailing from the Dark Lord Satan (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Satan)
- Famous pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Famous_pirates&action=edit)- maddox, Black beard, Blue beard, rainbow beard (he was gay) and Burnt Sienna Beard, fall into this category
- Cat pirates (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Cat_pirate) -- some say they're the worst. They use pudding.
- Pie rats (http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=Pie_rats&action=edit) - not quite pirates, but still.
- Pirates of the Dwarf Cove (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Dwarf_Cove)
- Paula Abdul (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Paula_Abdul)
... and last, but not least ... Maddox (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Maddox)
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You guys Apple isn't getting upset because people aren't buying there hard ware there getting upset because ppl are stealing mac os x.
This is what they are doing they are looking though the forums for any links to illegal downloads of mac os x then the host is either shutdown or the file is deleted and depending on what the illegal file is apple can sew.
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If that is all they are doing, then I suppose there is no harm in their actions. Let's hope that was their sole motivation.
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They would really perfer you buy there hardware or they would end up in a issue of only selling software (aka microsoft) and with that may become the biggest dicks like microsoft.
You must understand that x86 project has a lot of illegal content on it. Apple now sees this and they must shut it down if the illegal content gets out of hand. Most of the people that are interested in this project got there Mac OS X from - or -. I have cut the names because I like mac and I wouldn't want to set more ppl trying to download it.
Mac is only trying to shutdown illegal links to there software. There slogen I guess you could call it for this is "Don't steal Macintosh. It's not cool."