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Operating Systems => macOS => Topic started by: The Anti-Microsoft on 27 March 2004, 21:04

Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: The Anti-Microsoft on 27 March 2004, 21:04
quote:
From Slashdot:
The Council of Better Business Bureaus has suggested Apple Computer withdraw its claims of the world's fastest, and first 64-bit, PC after a complaint by Dell.


Slashdot article (http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/27/161222&mode=thread&tid=107&tid=126&tid=181&tid=187)
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: WMD on 27 March 2004, 22:02
quote:
Some Slashdot poster:
Microsoft: Windows is the best operating system!
Microsoft: MS-Office is the best Office program!
Dell: We have the best deals on our computers!
Apple: We have the fastest computer!


BBB: Apple, you're not allowed to say that...
Fair?

Come on, why does everyone pick on Apple...



Agreed.  Besides, isn't the advertised machine a dual 2Ghz (4Ghz total) G5?  That's definately faster than the rest of them (especially considering the PPC architecture).
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: flap on 27 March 2004, 22:23
quote:
Originally posted by WMD:
isn't the advertised machine a dual 2Ghz (4Ghz total)


It doesn't work like that. Putting in another processor doesn't double the speed of the system.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Paladin9 on 27 March 2004, 23:49
quote:
Originally posted by flap:
It doesn't work like that. Putting in another processor doesn't double the speed of the system.


It does if the software running on the computer is writen to take advantage of the two CPU's.

The G5 is the first 64-bit chip to be backwards compatible, but not the first 64-bit chip in general.  The Athlon64 came out like just after the G5 came out.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: flap on 28 March 2004, 00:09
quote:
Originally posted by MindFlyer-Paladin9:


It does if the software running on the computer is writen to take advantage of the two CPU's.



No it doesn't. 2 CPUs are obviously faster than one, but even under optimal conditions it won't be twice as fast.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: hm_murdock on 28 March 2004, 00:26
SMP with the G5 still suffers from 10 or 15% overhead.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Mandrake on 28 March 2004, 07:22
Plus you need apps that *use* the second processor (Photoshop etc).
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Fett101 on 30 March 2004, 05:50
quote:
Originally posted by WMD:

Microsoft: Windows is the best operating system!
Microsoft: MS-Office is the best Office program!
Dell: We have the best deals on our computers!



I don't remember any of these adverts.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: hm_murdock on 30 March 2004, 06:07
quote:
Plus you need apps that *use* the second processor (Photoshop etc).


Only on the classic OS. Mac OS X supports SMP at the kernel level, so all processes are able to take advantage of it.

Some apps are simply written with special SMP functions that speed them up even more.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Mandrake on 30 March 2004, 06:49
Thanks for the info.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: WMD on 31 March 2004, 02:04
quote:
Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
Only on the classic OS. Mac OS X supports SMP at the kernel level, so all processes are able to take advantage of it.


That's really neat...OSX just got more awesome IMO!  :D
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Mandrake on 31 March 2004, 17:42
Geez, maybe I should have gotten the dual 1.25Ghz G4 instead of the single CPU version   (http://smile.gif)
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: Claris on 3 April 2004, 08:57
The thing is, truth-in-advertising laws are a tricky thing. The laws are written under the premise that most comparable products are of about the same quality, so any company is allowed to call its product "the best". But, if a company wants to say it's product is better than another company's product, that statement must be the truth to be legal. So Apple is fine saying "Fastest Personal Computer", but not okay saying "Faster than the AMD64".

It pays to know your laws.
Title: Better Business Bureau Targets Apple's G5 Ads
Post by: WMD on 2 April 2004, 02:09
quote:
Originally posted by Mandrake:
Geez, maybe I should have gotten the dual 1.25Ghz G4 instead of the single CPU version    (http://smile.gif)  


US $300 more at least.  (http://redface.gif)