Stop Microsoft
Operating Systems => macOS => Topic started by: TheQuirk on 14 October 2002, 00:25
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What are some common Mac questions?
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most common one I hear is "why do they suck so much"
this is always in reference to an experience someone has had with a suckass one that a school put in and never thought again about.
a: they don't. They're a superior computer, you've only had bad experiences with them through poorly maintained examples of typically Apple's most compromised, low-cost models.
Why do Macs crash all the time?
a: Again, a well-maintained one doesn't. Also, the new system software, Mac OS X doesn't require the preening and polishing to be stable... it just is, because it's based on UNIX.
Why don't Macs run Windows?
a: Because Mac OS is better than Windoze, they don't need to.
Why isn't there a Start Button?
a: There doesn't have to be. They didn't put one there when they designed it. It's different, get over it.
Why do you like Macs so much? Why can't you just be like everyone else and use a PC?
a: I use Macs because I value good design, quality, stability... and I hate Microsoft. I do, in fact use PCs. I have an HP notebook running Linux.
Obviously, some of the answers are my own personal responses, but those are typical questions I get. Although, I wasn't able to type the usually acidic and rude tone of voice. Why people that know nothing about a PC seem to hate Apples so much is beyond me.
Oh well, I hate people anyway. :D
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Well despite my never having used a Mac before in my life, I quickly found my way around in OS X. My first question (to my self) was "where are the system, keyboard and language settings?" or "how do I use this Finder thing?". It was a bit annoying at first but it only lasted for a few hours (http://smile.gif) Also keep in mind that I haven't used windows at home for 2 years and that I've been using Linux for 5 years (since '97). So learning my way around in OS X was really a piece of cake (http://smile.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by The Jimmy James:
Oh well, I hate people anyway. :D
Heh. Me too, on the most part.
I meant techincal questions, for the F.A.Q. Although I'm getting a bit confused too, because Mac OS is so easy to use..
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Why are Mac's so expensive?
Can you build your own?
Why are Mac's worth the price?
Are Mac's REALY faster than PC's?
Do Mac's have any software/games?
Isn't Apple going out of buissness?
Don't Mac's only have 5% of the computer market?
Thing's in this vain. The answers are obvious so I won't bother. Cuz I'm lazy like that. Anyone care to do it?
:D
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I'll do it, even though I don't own a Mac (but will, eventually.. sigh...)
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Ok, done. Could anyone explain here ho to run X Windows programs in Darwin? I'm totally clueless about that, and I'm sure alot of people would like to know.
View the MAC FAQ here: http://www.belg88.com/faqman/index.php?op=cat&c=4 (http://www.belg88.com/faqman/index.php?op=cat&c=4)
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]
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Actually, the 5% thing is a myth. ... kinda.
Apple has 11% of the PERSONAL COMPUTER MARKET, and is infact the single most popular computer manufacturere. In the Computer market as a whole Apple has only 5%. Compare that to Dell, Gateway and the others, and you have a pretty impressive company, with some pretty impresive numbers.
Looks good. That's my only correction. Other MacHeads, comeon and add to the FAQ and to the answers!
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X Darwin on OS X
I have run Abiword (which is an X window app) using the following :
Xdarwin ( a ~50 meg file, warning! Does the X window thing)
and OroborX (which emulates the Aqua look).
Both can be found on www.versiontracker.com (http://www.versiontracker.com)
Both are braindead easy to install, and they worked well. I just downloaded and installed Abiword (a native darwin port, but requires X Window support) and it works well, I trashed it in lieu of OpenOffice (OMG drool) ;)
Some others questions I have seen are :
What printers will work with them (quick answer: 90% of USB printers work out of the box)?
Will my monitor work? (quick answser: yes)?
I would suggest that you, if you are the FAQ author, avoid anti-MS rhetoric, because that (from the reactions of non-Apple friends/family) it doesn't look as professional or seems angry and unhelpful. Give the benifits of OS X/Apple, for sure, but don't piss on everything else, especially at the cost of clarity and information.
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: MacUser3of5 ]
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To run XWindows on a Mac go to:
XFree86.org and download XDarwin. It is an X Windows server program.
Alternatively you can go to:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php (http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php)
Fink is a relativly easy to use packadge manager that will download and install XWindows applications and the like under Darwin.
You can even install alternate window managers like KDE and or Gnome, all of which run side by side with the OSX native Aqua.
It takes some reading, so make sure you read all of the Doc's on the respective sites.
Once you have X11 installed you can boot into Darwin directly by typeing >cosole at the login prompt. This way you can run in "pure" UNIX mode and use startx to activate x windows as you would under a Linux/*NIX.
NOTE: The above method is not necissary! It's possible if your into that, but no where near necissary. You can just duble click on the XDarwin icon under OSX and run "rootless" meaning X11 and Aqua all at the same time. Cool huh :D
Neat stuff.
Anyway, You still didn't fix the 5% discrepancy (http://smile.gif)
It really is 11% of the market!
Check this article posted previously:
http://www.spymac.com/comments.php?id=215_0_5_0_C (http://www.spymac.com/comments.php?id=215_0_5_0_C)
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
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ooo.. Quirk, i noticed that the little book icon's next to the question use the same icon's as windows help files.
For shame!
Find something else. :(
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I made Mac help center icons...check'em out:
White Background:
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Machelpwhite.png)
Blue Background:
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Machelpblue.png)
They are the same size as the Winbooks...
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
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And check your spelling... ;)
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Spelling? Too much of a pain when you write everything without proof reading! I'd be happy if you pointed out the mistakes, seeing as I'm too lazy too. (http://tongue.gif)
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quote:
Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
I made Mac help center icons...check'em out:
White Background:
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Machelpwhite.png)
Blue Background:
(http://www.akgames.net:8000/Downloads/Files/Personal/Machelpblue.png)
They are the same size as the Winbooks...
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
Hey, thanks! That little problem is fixed now.
[ October 13, 2002: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]
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Hey Quirk!
Good work.
Tho I liked the part you had before in the 5% question that talked about OSX being the most widely distributed and popular brand of UNIX. Cuz it is.
That's a good litte tidbit (http://smile.gif)
You should add it nex to the stuff I contributed.
Just a thought.
[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
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Quirk,
Can I be a manager on the Mac FAQ too :D
I'll be extra carefull and check my spelling and stuff. PLEEEESE!!!
whatver.
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Nice FAQ board Quirk! Good work indeed but I would love to see it expanding and covering more technical aspects of Mac's classic OS and OS X ;) But then again it's only the beginning right ?
Good work again. Keep it up (http://smile.gif)
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Also, another question is "will my current mouse work" the answer is "yes, if it's USB, and yes, the right button and scroll wheel work too ;) "
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quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Quirk,
Can I be a manager on the Mac FAQ too :D
I'll be extra carefull and check my spelling and stuff. PLEEEESE!!!
whatver.
Yes, of course! I need someone to be with Muffin, anyway. Email me (the email is in the FAQ and the contact page on my website).
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quote:
Originally posted by Panos:
Nice FAQ board Quirk! Good work indeed but I would love to see it expanding and covering more technical aspects of Mac's classic OS and OS X ;) But then again it's only the beginning right ?
Good work again. Keep it up (http://smile.gif)
Yes, it's the beggining. But because I don't own a Mac (someday soon!), I don't know what to write! That's why I need people like you and Psyjax adding F.A.Q's! And MacUser3of5, I just added that. Thanks.
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Ohh.. Would a PS/2 mouse with a USB convertor work?
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It would be cool if we could make sub-categories ex:
- = Main category
-- = Sub Category
--- = Faq Topic
-Linux
--Installing
---How to install
---How to partition
--Advanced
---How to Burn a CD
---How to do networking
-Mac
--Using
---How to boot when you get the question mark thing
--Advanced
---Booting into single-user mode
---Using XWindows in Darwin
See what I mean? Is this possible?
The Linux guys kinda did this with the topic prefixes, but doing it in the category system would be even better.
[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
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Ack.. I really need to finish my own F.A.Q thing.. Or find a decent one. Just use prefixes for now. By the way, muffin, I was reading the F.A.Q, and the stuff I copy-and-pasted from this forum are full of typos.. Help me fix them, all right?
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I've been skimming the Mac forum for typos, but I'll do the rest. I added 3 topics while I was at it...
It's finally going somewhere!
[ October 14, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]
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That's ok, I edited all of them. Hey, get on AIM - I'm feeling lonely ;)
Oh, and something to laugh at:
http://www.microsoft.com/insider/opsystems/windowsxp_setup.asp (http://www.microsoft.com/insider/opsystems/windowsxp_setup.asp)
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I'm on AIM. Get on. I need to talk to you about PHP.
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new address!
http://faq.belg88.com (http://faq.belg88.com)
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My AIM is AkaKubiYaro. For the Quirk and others.
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Quirk check your PM. I wrote down some questions, frequently asked or not you will decide (http://smile.gif)
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Equivalent terms, apps, and OS features between Windows and Mac OS X
My Computer = In the Finder, go to the File menu, and choose "New Finder Window". Mounted volumes are also displayed on the desktop by default.
Windows Explorer = Finder
Control Panel = System Preferences
Start Button = Dock, Desktop, Finder windows
Taskbar = Dock
System Tray = Menu modules and docklings
Command Prompt = Terminal
Device Manager = Apple System Profiler
Recycle Bin = Trash
MS Office XP = MS Office v.X, OpenOffice
Internet Explorer = Internet Explorer (Microsoft), Mozilla (mozilla.org), Netscape (America Online), Chimera (mozilla.org), iCab (icab.de), Opera (opera.com), OmniWeb (?)
Photoshop = Photoshop (Adobe), Painter (Corel procreate), CorelPhoto/Paint
Windows Movie Maker = iMovie (Apple)
Premiere = Premiere (Adobe), Final Cut Pro (Apple
WinAmp = iTunes (Apple), Mint Audio (Unsanity)
Windows Media Player = Quicktime (Apple), RealOne (Real.com), Windows Media Player (Microsoft)
That can't be everything. Please feel free to add, guys!
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MS Works = Appleworks
By the way, Omniweb is at www.omnigroup.com (http://www.omnigroup.com) (http://smile.gif)
Don't forget to mention that most apps have cross-platform file formats (yes, mention jpg and gifs, because some people are not sure about it, or are not confident in their assuredness).
You should also give a directory of high-quality OS X software developers, i.e. OmniGroup, BareBones Software, Nisus (apparently they bought Okito, and are coming out with a Cocoa word processor!! yay!!) etc... just so people can see what's happening, and there is a variety of high quality software to choose from... a link to Apple's MacOSX download index would help a lot too.
[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: MacUser3of5 ]
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You should tell people how to empty thier trash in OS seX. Cover permissions, rm, chmod, rw-ww-rw-xx type shit