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Operating Systems => macOS => Topic started by: psyjax on 22 September 2002, 21:11

Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: psyjax on 22 September 2002, 21:11
http://www.lowendmac.com/scripts/portal.php?id=510 (http://www.lowendmac.com/scripts/portal.php?id=510)

Pretty funny shit.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Master of Reality on 22 September 2002, 21:50
that was utterly stupid.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Refalm on 22 September 2002, 14:41
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Kim Komando: OS X crashed just once during the test. I've been running Windows XP Professional for almost a year, and it is equally reliable. As I said, computers are complicated machines. You have to make the effort to learn them, whether Apple or Windows.


A few years ago, I still thought that Windows crashing on me was my fault.

Luckily, I now know that the greedy Bill Gates creates Spyware operating systems and hire's people like Kim Komando to write " Why Windows has the edge over the Mac" articles on their own website (MSN: Microsoft bCentral).
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: voidmain on 22 September 2002, 18:16
Kim's radio show comes on my favorite radio station and I have to turn the station. It makes me sick having to listen to a Windows help show on the radio. And half the shit she spews is incorrect. I am always tempted to call in and ask questions about Linux and ask her why Windows spies on people and why it just plain sucks in general.

Side note. I can't even view the quoted link because it's a redirect through MSN which I have blocked. Oh well....

[ September 22, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Refalm on 22 September 2002, 18:21
Do you happen to know if I can hear that radio programme where you called Kim Komando to say that Windows is just expencive spyware?
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: voidmain on 22 September 2002, 18:37
I seriously doubt they would let me get away with asking such questions...
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Refalm on 22 September 2002, 18:40
Quote for void main:
 
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http://www.bcentral.com/articles/komando/104.asp?cobrand=msn&LID=3800:
Why Windows has the edge over the Mac

Kim Komando Have you seen those Apple commercials about people who switched from Microsoft Windows? I especially liked the woman who described her Windows-based computer as "that horrid little machine."

I could have been that woman. But after using an Apple iMac for two months, I'm not. And that's what this column is about. I know there are people out there struggling with Windows. Computers are complicated machines. I get more than 50,000 call attempts per hour on my national talk-radio show, the majority of which are questions from Windows users.

Actually, I considered not writing this column, regardless of the test results. Writing about Windows versus Apple is a no-win situation.

But if you disagree with my conclusions, please think twice before flaming me. My opinions are honest, I promise. I tried hard to be very fair to both sides. And just to set the record straight, I was not influenced one bit by the fact this column runs on a Microsoft-owned site. In fact, I started my testing months before I began contributing weekly columns to Microsoft bCentral.

Let's get started

My odyssey with the iMac started back in May, when I was asked by Apple Computer if I would like a three-month loaner. Well, what the heck? Send it on, I said.

The big test started in June, when I hauled it out of its box. Hmmm, I thought, this is one cute little guy. I was immediately reminded of the TV commercial where the man on the sidewalk strikes poses, and an iMac in the store window mimics him.

Click Here!
If you haven't seen the iMac, let me describe it. The computer itself is inside a round base. Attached to that is an arm, and a 15-inch flat-panel screen sits on the arm's end. The screen is easily adjustable, so you can always look at it head-on.

The keyboard is encased in clear plastic, as is the mouse. Even the speakers are clear plastic. The iMac is very, very stylish. Surrounded by Windows machines in my offices, it looked like a debutante at a frumps' convention.

Time to do some work

I was determined to do all my work on this machine. I wanted to give it a thorough test drive. We have a building full of Windows computers, networked via cable. The first test was getting the iMac on the network. That was a piece of cake. Just a few entries were needed in System Preferences.

The computer came with Internet Explorer, and I installed Netscape for e-mail. Apple has a native e-mail application, but I couldn't get it to work. That was no big deal, really.

I have had some experience with Macs, but it had been a while. So I had to learn the iMac, which was running the OS X operating system. My productivity immediately plunged. The iMac will do most of what Windows does, but it often does things differently. The Help system was somewhat sketchy, similar to Windows.

But once I got to know the iMac, I found more similarities between Windows and OS X than differences. The filing systems are alike, to a great degree. Windows Explorer's counterpart is Macintosh HD. There are differences in the ways files and folders are manipulated, but they are minor.

One of the great things about Windows is "Alt+Tab," with which you can jump from window to window. On the iMac, it's "Cmd+Tab." Instead of showing the selection of windows in the middle of the screen, the selector moves through them at the bottom of the screen. The thing at the bottom is the Dock. It took me a little while to figure out what was happening. But it's actually very similar to Windows.

We do lots of writing here at Komando Town, and Microsoft Word is the preferred application. Swapping the Mac files with my staff on Windows machines was no problem.

Word files opened easily in either system. Things seemed seamless, whether we were writing on the iMac or the Windows machines. We did little with Excel and nothing with PowerPoint, but I'll bet they would have been equally flawless. So if you're using Microsoft's Office package, you should have no trouble swapping files.

The iMac came with ClarisWorks, a less capable office package. I didn't use that, although I have ClarisWorks for Windows on an old machine. I always liked that old version of ClarisWorks.

Speed can be an issue

The only disappointing aspect of the iMac was its lack of speed. Don't get me wrong: It wasn't that it was particularly slow
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: voidmain on 22 September 2002, 18:59
Couple of thoughts about Kim. One, from listening to her program she sounds like she spent a few years on a Windows help desk and thinks she knows everything about computers based on her entire life dedicated to Windows. When in fact a person who's life has been dedicated to Windows knows very little about "computers".

Having dedicated her life to Microsoft and Windows there is really no way she could use any other system for 3 months and be as comfortable with it as she is with the system she's sold her soul to. It will always be a comparison between what she knows well and could never get a fair shake because she would likely be looking for equivelant items rather than finding out about the things that you just can't do in Windows.

And it also appears that the things she does find that are similar she says that it's "similar to Windows" rather than the the reverse which is more likely the case should have been "Windows is similar to Mac" since Windows has always been an Apple rip off. After years of brain washing can you really expect a person like this to be able to "think different" in a 3 month trial which would persuade her to change, which of course would blow her entire business of making her living off of Windows deficiencies?

Besides making her living off of Windows deficiencies I have little doubt that she is funded by the evil empire itself... Just my opinion.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: RudeCat7 on 22 September 2002, 19:56
She sounds like your typical "dipshit". But worse! She's giving advice to other dipshits, and she doesn't know that 800mhz on an Apple is not the same as 800mhz on her POS windows box!

God! Computers have their own "Dr. Laura"  :mad:
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: KernelPanic on 22 September 2002, 20:38
This article amused me greatly because it proved the point that windows makes you stupid(er)
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Master of Reality on 22 September 2002, 20:53
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Originally posted by void main:
I seriously doubt they would let me get away with asking such questions...

Get different people you know to phone in every day asking questions about why windows likes to attract worms and why it crashes when i open a native aplication and so forth.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Fett101 on 23 September 2002, 12:24
Yes. And then shout "BaBa Booey"
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Fett101 on 24 September 2002, 03:59
quote:
Originally posted by RudeCat7:
she doesn't know that 800mhz on an Apple is not the same as 800mhz on her POS windows box!



"Apple buffs argue that chip speed is a misleading measure. AMD, which trails Intel in chip speed, makes the same argument. I agree, up to a point."
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: cocoamix on 25 September 2002, 03:25
I've listened to her show. ANY dork with a MCSE probably knows more than Ms Komando will ever know about Windoze or computers in general. I'm not trying to be sexist, but it is my firm opinion that if she were not a blond woman, she would not even have a job in the computer industry, as her knowledge of computers seems WAY below par for someone in her position.
Or perhaps she IS well-suited to her job, as most of her callers seem to be of the sort who call in asking where the "any key" is.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: ravuya on 25 September 2002, 08:10
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Originally posted by cocoamix:
most of her callers seem to be of the sort who call in asking where the "any key" is.


After reading this trash, I'd argue that she is the kind of person who would call into her own show to ask these kinds of questions. Here's a true story to rev up for the "any key" question, BTW:

"Where's the any key?"
"See that switch on back? Flip it every time you have a problem."
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: RudeCat7 on 25 September 2002, 21:43
Hey fet101,

Umm.. your sig graphic doesn't work.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Master of Reality on 25 September 2002, 19:35
its because there is a space in the URL for the pic.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Calum on 25 September 2002, 20:45
back to the article. what a m00ron she is (to use a term someone applied to me on this board last year)!  (http://smile.gif)

alarm bells rung when she said that windows explorer was the equivalent to Macintosh HD. How? one is a hard drive with a MACOSX file system on, and the other is a poor excuse for a file browser that adds extra security holes, sorry 'enhanced functionality' to your 'operating system'.

second issue i have is this. She goes on all article about how the mac is great, then flags up the completely justified 'no floppy drive and only one mouse button' thing, (personally i think a lot of people do not get a mac purely because of these two reasons), but then:  
quote:
The iMac comes with some highly touted multimedia software. That wasn't important to me — I used the iMac as a business computer. There is a great deal of multimedia software available for Windows, too. I doubt that the iMac software is a great advantage.

Why? so you are saying that you didn't give a shit about how well the mac handles multimedia stuff despite the fact that that is what it is most used for in a commercial environment? plus, i think your business somment is ridiculous. it implies that people who create multimedia do not do so as part of a business. I don't think i have ever heard of or seen a design office where they run on windows machines. They usually have one windows macine there, but it is more often than not a Pentium133 which is never switched on.
 
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The bottom line
So, if you're struggling with Windows and you think that an iMac will allow you to focus more on your business and not on computer issues, should you switch? I vote no.

now this is ludicrous. a page and a half of 'this mac is great, it's so easy, everything was easy to set up, and then the summation says it's not worth it?!?!? STUPID!!! YOU SO STUPID!!!!

she never even bothered to mention the stability issues...
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Calum on 25 September 2002, 20:49
ps: re fett's signature, check out http://home.midsouth.rr.com/fett101/ (http://home.midsouth.rr.com/fett101/) he/she has some excellent fluffy equipment there! well done, fett! oddly though, meatsig doesn't appear to be in there in any way!   :eek:
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Master of Reality on 26 September 2002, 00:37
I bet all that fluffy equipment would light on fir very nicely.
Title: totaly non-biased review of the iMac
Post by: Fett101 on 30 September 2002, 21:16
Don't go lighting any of my stuff on fir. That's mean. And my sig should be fixed now. Worked in all other forums with a space in there. Must be that dern Linux   (http://smile.gif)  

Oh, and something you can't see in those pics. His eyes have red led's in them. The right side is power, and the left is HD access.   (http://smile.gif)

[ September 30, 2002: Message edited by: fett101 ]