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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Software => Topic started by: Windows_SuX_@$$ on 5 September 2003, 06:38
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My 400MHz 384Ram 12GB HD with XP always freezes, Yes I know Windows sux and so does my PC, This has been happening for a while since I had 98.2oo2,redhat,XP on this PC I recently Installed XP because my Linux kept fucking up, My PC always freezes nomatter what OS, I think its a HD problem because after everytime it freezes It says That The Primary HD wasnt found [ I hae one HD ] Any tips ? The HD is old but I havent touched it and it cant be corrupted because b4 it freezes I hear a small click..
Help ?
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it sounds like a corrupt filesystem.
install Windows and destroy all existing partitions, then recreate them, and format them fully, using FAT32 or NTFS.
that oughta do it.
or re-install Linux. what precisely was it doing?
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I had deleted the partition many times its not a software problem I hear this click and 5 secs later my PC wont start and wen I try it says - <--that blinks in upper right corner or it says ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
on the whole screen switching the backroung from black to grey or it says Primary HD not found ?
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OK, Drill a hole in the top...run an extension chorde through it, then put on a lamp shade...VIOLA...you still have a use for your puter!!!!
No really...Try this.
Use a disk that comes with your H/D. All manufacturers make them bootable. Follow it's instructions and be sure to tell it what kind of O/S you plan to put on it and let it format and set patitions.
The install your O/S and let it reset the partitions.
Goofy I know but I just fixed a buddies coomputer that way. Usually when you hear that click...just say uh oh. it is either an actual hard warez fowl up (yes sometimes they miss bad ones before they sell it) or the drivers are all fugged. You may have not totally erased all data from all of those other O/S' you had on there and that would deffinately fug it up. If you want more detailed info on what I did to fix my friends, then just message me. If your systems a package deal the fix isn't quite so easy.
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Originally posted by Windows_SuX_@$$:
I recently Installed XP because my Linux kept fucking up
...and look what happend. ;)
After formatting your drive, it whoudn't be a bad idee to use one of those programs to check if your drive is damaged.
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Originally posted by Windows_SuX_@$$:
Yes I know Windows sux and so does my PC, This has been happening for a while since I had 98.2oo2,redhat,XP on this PC I recently Installed XP because my Linux kept fucking up,
oh oh oh, while this is possible, it is highly unlikely.
the likelihood is much higher that you fucked it up yourself.
am i wrong?
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I meant that
Every OS I have tried that I can relate to doesnt work because My PC Freezes at times
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Sometimes on im my PC on XP or Linux and I hear this click, 2 seconds later my HD freezes, I restart it Says Primary HD not Found [ I have one HD ] Then I restart Again and I get this - <==| In the upper Right corner, If I restart a few More times I get the whole screen filled with this ^^^^^ In white text, and the BG Color Keeps Switching from Grey/Back every second....
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Any Ideas What is Wrong ?
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Do you know how to get into your bios and manually select what hard drive you use?
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The HD is old but I havent touched it and it cant be corrupted because b4 it freezes I hear a small click..
Oh man.. I've heard that click before the comp freezes. It was always bad news for me.
I seriously think your hard disk is dying. Check /var/log/messages after a crash when you are running Linux. It will probably show you an error message pertaining to your drive dying.
I'd suggest you backup any critical data right away, then run some serious surface scans, and by serious I mean over and over again for several hours. IF in windows, you can use Scandisk. In linux you can use badblocks... note badblocks shouldn't be used on mounted partitions so you might want to boot from a rescue disk.
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I know its not really a problem for 400mhz Pentiums but make sure your computer has sufficient cooling. I know a lot of old PC's don't have big hardware but you might need a better or a few more fans.
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Originally posted by KiDwithIsSuEs 00:
I meant that
Every OS I have tried that I can relate to doesnt work because My PC Freezes at times
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Sometimes on im my PC on XP or Linux and I hear this click, 2 seconds later my HD freezes, I restart it Says Primary HD not Found [ I have one HD ] Then I restart Again and I get this - <==| In the upper Right corner, If I restart a few More times I get the whole screen filled with this ^^^^^ In white text, and the BG Color Keeps Switching from Grey/Back every second....
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Any Ideas What is Wrong ?
Try switching the power lead connector that you are using for your hard drive. The lead connector on it right now may have a short in it. It could also be a problem with the power input of the hard drive. That click you are talking about is probably your hard drive losing power and shutting off(which will cause your comp to lock up). The reason why it says no drive found when you hit reset is because the drive never powered back on.
I've ran into this problem in the past a few times(on customer computers that were brought into the shop). One time it was being caused by the hard drive being on the same connector current as the front case fan(the drive was plugged in with the splitter lead of the fan). After unplugging it from that connector and connecting it to a different lead on the PSU(one not plugged into a case fan) the problem was solved. Another time I encountered this and it ended up being a physical problem with the drive. I had to disassemble the drive and re-solder the power input source on the drive...and sure enough the problem was fixed(it was being caused by 1 pin on the controller board that was somehow broken loose).
Anyways, if putting the drive on a different power connector doesn't work you probably have a physical problem with your drive. You can either attempt to fix the solder of the power input pin(s) to controller board(if you are brave enough to dis-assemble a hard drive) or you can buy a new drive/good used drive for the comp. Be warned, dis-assembling the drive and working with the solder may not solve the problem, if you see any burns or abnormalities(like a bubble in a circuit path) on the controller board of the drive it means that the board has a fried circuit and it really can't be fixed(it can be if you have the technical finess of fixing fried circuits on a circuit board...which is by no means easy for a person who doesn't know how to do it). If it comes down to a fried controller board on the drive you are best off to just replace the drive.
[ September 25, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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I fixed it by deleting all Partitions and Installing Knoppix (Yes You can install Knoppix to go console and type in knx-hdinstall, I think I fixed it, Hasn't crashed since!
Thanks For Your Help! (http://tongue.gif)
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KiDwithIsSuEs 00: I fixed it by deleting all Partitions and Installing Knoppix (Yes You can install Knoppix to go console and type in knx-hdinstall, I think I fixed it, Hasn't crashed since!
Thanks For Your Help! (http://tongue.gif)
Without any problems at all? I now people who did that and had one problem: it boots into runlevel 3. Of course any Linux guru can figure out that you need to start vi and edit inittab, but try to explain that to the newbie...
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Come the hell on, we all know the easiest solution to fix this drive (before installing knoppix) was to hit it with several rounds from a silenced handgun loaded with hollow point copkiller rounds. The HD is obviously possessed by what remains of XPee, and needs exorcised...
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Originally posted by Annorax: Temporal Enigma:
Come the hell on, we all know the easiest solution to fix this drive (before installing knoppix) was to hit it with several rounds from a silenced handgun loaded with hollow point copkiller rounds. The HD is obviously possessed by what remains of XPee, and needs exorcised...
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Originally posted by Annorax: Temporal Enigma:
Come the hell on, we all know the easiest solution to fix this drive (before installing knoppix) was to hit it with several rounds from a silenced handgun loaded with hollow point copkiller rounds. The HD is obviously possessed by what remains of XPee, and needs exorcised...
Why not just use a nuke instead? :D
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DAMN ITS HAPPENING AGAIN I WAS ON THAT PC TRYING TO GET KNOPPIX AND IN THE MIDDLE OF INSTALL MY HD CLICKS AND FAILS...
Does anyone have any ideas whats the problem its not the cooling system I just cleaned it and it runs good I reconnected everything my HD makes a click and bam it fails and usualy I cant get the PC to work I start it and see this 'Primary Hard Disk Fail' and I tryed booting live-Linux and same thing sometimes this PC works and sometimes not whis used to hapen with XP but now it happens with linux I have 1/2 partition of linux on the HD but the HGD Fails how should I get an OS on it and when I ran Linux on it it used to click and also fail!
Please Help
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If it isn't a HD connection problem(which obviously it isn't since you tried to re-connect everything) your drive is just about dead.
It is time to just suck it up and buy a new hard drive man. When you get a new drive you can probably use your old drive long enough to copy all of your data to the new drive. If you want to be able to do that you should really try not to use that computer with the old drive much unil you get the new drive(if you do the old drive may completely die then you will not be able to use it to copy data from it to the new drive)....or you can burn your important stuff to a CD providing you have a burner. If you don't have anything important to copy to the new drive then don't worry about limiting your comp usage. ;(
[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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didn't read through all of the posts. But your Hard Drive is overheating. The bearing are beginning to die. I have an old hard drive that can't run for 10 minutes before clicking and dying. Then once it cools off it works for 10 more minutes. My iPod also did this, if the hard drive was on fore more than 10 minutes it would click and die. Put some heatsinks on it and see if it lasts longer. If it does then you know it is heat related. Another way to test... when it dies, put your hand on it. If you can't put your hand on it for more than 30 seconds then it is overheating.
BTW, Apple replaced my pod... no questions asked... on the spot at the apple store.
[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: jeffberg: Mac Capitalist ]
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His problem seems to have been resolved by unplugging the PC. Unplugging the HD power. Holding the power button for a few seconds. Reconnecitng it all and booting.
Booyah!
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Yea thanks for heling me on AIM Fett! :D
(I hope it stays working)
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Originally posted by Fett101:
His problem seems to have been resolved by unplugging the PC. Unplugging the HD power. Holding the power button for a few seconds. Reconnecitng it all and booting.
Booyah!
So it was a power connection problem eh?
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Quiet you. I take credit where I can on this forum...
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