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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: mael on 21 March 2002, 01:17

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 21 March 2002, 01:17
I happen to think video game fanboys are the most analistic, unreasonable, immature type of fanboy known to mankind... surpassing religious fanboys 2 fold.  As the xbox gains popularity among the children of the world ... video game freaks, we see people ask the question: Whats wrong with microsoft?  Why do so many people hate them?

This is the kind of thread i got myself into.  I explained all the crap microsoft has done, the OEM exclusives, the bundling of apps ... only to get told i was an anti-ms fanboy.  I gave them link after link of usefull information which was TOTALLY overlooked.

Then i was told that microsoft has just as many holes in it as linux, that linux has all sorts of terrible problems because someone saw a mail list of errors.  While i told them that those are errors with programs, not just the linux kernel, i was again told that i was an idiot to think linux didn't have as many as windows.

Next i got to hear 20 fannyboys tell me that im just jealous of microsoft, and thats why i hate them so much.  Of course i gave them all the reasons (once again, they didn't pay attention the first time).

Then i was told that i did have a choice with the software or internet explorers i want on my system .. that i could download them free or go buy them in the store.  I asked them why i should pay for the other if i dont want it, and to that i was told that it was free, that microsoft bundled it in as a loving, wonderful company.

They asked what i thought they should do with windows to make it fair, and i explained that i thought making a stripped down version would be fine .. and they could keep the full version right along side it for those that dont care to install it all themselves.  I was told that microsoft needs to bundle apps so that their os is more attractive.. and while i told them that their os was attractive NOT for the apps it bundled, but because there is no real viable choice.  Most apps and software projects are developed to run on windows.

After arguing for close to 2 hours, i gave up.  The funny thing is, if this debate would have happened 6 months ago, i dont think anyone would care to join in.  Microsoft was smart to grab this young audience... churning fanboys out NOT only for their system, but for their garbage os, and all their other 'wonderful' products.  I didn't think i would EVER hear someone protect their wonderful and favorite company like they did.  I fought off nausea and anger trembles.

Get ready, the new wave of MS support is about to grow, and we can thank that big piece of fucking shit with a huge X on it.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 21 March 2002, 02:27
Ah, don't worry 'bout it. Real Video game enthusiests don't really like the XBox. The XBox has latched on the user base of gamers who like to smoke pot listen to really loud base and watch pretty colors and gore on their screen as they chuckle Bevis and Butthead like. It won't last, no one want's the thing anyway.

But ya, I see your point. I think M$ has allways been aiming at younger audiences. Because if you can convince them that the M$ way is the only way when their young, theyll be stickin to it for the rest of their life. Kinda like Cigarettes  :D
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 21 March 2002, 02:30
And look at this fucking shit.

http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2769 (http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2769)

 "Are you a big spender who likes fancy toys? Then get out your check book because you can enter a bid to get your hands on your own Xbox autographed by Bill Gates. For those of you who dont have the loot it will take to get this puppy, you can at least wish you did. I just thought I'd pass it along in the chance that someone out there might be interested."

That has to be the most disgusting thing i have ever seen in my entire life.  What the fucking hell is WRONG with these kids?  If i ever got that hunk of shit, i'd find everyway to rip anything that says 'microsoft' on it.  I couldn't imagine the thought of billygates's signature on it.

Anybody else want to assassinate the bastard?  I wonder how many people are getting sick of his "I am Jesus, kiss my feet" act.  This can only be topped by the japanese gamer that bought the first xbox and said "I wanted to meet bill gates, he is so rich!".

[ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 21 March 2002, 03:05
"100% of the proceeds from this auction will be donated to The Boys and Girls Club of America. It is truly The Positive Place For Kids."


Aww how nice! Bill gates is soooo magnanimus. Coulden't dig in to his own check book, instead decides to sell a machine that looks like it's going for a couple of thousand. Man, Im sure the Boys and Girls Club will be able to realy be able to use a couple of extra thousand dollars. Maybe they can build M$ computer centers at all of their facilities! Oh Joy!

hmmmm....

Looking at the Picture of the XBox with the signiature, dosn't it reamind of the George Forman Grill. Maybe it's its evil Cyborg twin brother   :D  

[ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

One more Edit:

Hey shiggy, were did you get that picture in your profile! It rock's do you have a biger "desktop-able" version?

[ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: jtpenrod on 21 March 2002, 03:59
quote:
And look at this fucking shit.

http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2769 (http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2769)
 


LOLOLOLOLOL! I wonder, does the extra-special, autographed version of the X-Crox scratch up DVDs? Does it crash at the drop of an electron? Is it just like the ones we mere mortals have to use, or is this one special?

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(http://www.otakupc.com/etsig/dolphin.gif)If software can be free, why can't dolphins?


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Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 21 March 2002, 04:12
You better believe i do    ;)   - its been my desktop for over 6 months (till i found that great teletubby one). I'll add it on a website real quick and add a link.

Nm, i found the original link:

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/not-the-osi/dergates.jpg (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/not-the-osi/dergates.jpg)

Enjoy    ;)   .

ps. i've gotten a TON of negative feedback on that pic.. people telling me im evil for relating bill to hitler.  But if you ask me, they could be brothers.

[ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 21 March 2002, 04:17
quote:
Originally posted by jtpenrod:


LOLOLOLOLOL! I wonder, does the extra-special, autographed version of the X-Crox scratch up DVDs? Does it crash at the drop of an electron? Is it just like the ones we mere mortals have to use, or is this one special?



Ahahaha, thats great.  These have to be the best forums i've found. Normally i get a ton of pro microsofties bitching my way .. you guys kick ass  ;) . Keep up the good work.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 21 March 2002, 05:00
quote:
Originally posted by shiggy:

Nm, i found the original link:

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/not-the-osi/dergates.jpg (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/not-the-osi/dergates.jpg)

Enjoy     ;)    .
[ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]



Thanks, I will tresure it for ever. As for the negative feedback, remind them that all enamies come as your friends.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: cahult on 21 March 2002, 05:08
X marks the spot, or so they say. But there
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: voidmain on 21 March 2002, 10:07
Hey, we should bid on it and when we "win" it, get photos wizzing on it, then paste them on the back of our PS2s like the graphics people put on the back windows of their Chevy/Ford picups.  Better yet, just copy the image off the site and impose the Chevy/Ford wizzers on it. But then we wouldn't be helping out the Boys and Girls club.  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: MxCl on 21 March 2002, 23:23
Shiggy: people are stupid. I just let people get on with their lives nowadays; I can rarely be bothered to argue with idiots who hold set-in-stone opinions.

My favorite Dilbert strip had dogbert set out to find everyone in the world who held an extreme opinion on something they didn't understand and hit them over the head with a paper cone.

Thank god I found this forum where people are intelligent, wise and don't like MS because of GOOD reasons.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: VeTro on 22 March 2002, 15:29
There is no point in arguing with peoples who love Microsoft and Bill Gates. Those peoples who like Microsoft are to blind to see the truth. There will be no hope for them.

If peoples want to use products from M$, then let them use it. Let them spend all the money they want. It will be their doom. And the result will be that they never will learn real computing (programming, how to realy fix a pc, ect).
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: kinky on 24 March 2002, 04:12
hey, thats a good idea... i need something to do with my xbox since its so stupid.. im gonna scrath bill gates name on it and auction it up on ebay for $2000 !!!! WOO HOO!!!
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Mysterio on 25 March 2002, 07:56
quote:
Originally posted by shiggy:
You better believe i do      ;)     - its been my desktop for over 6 months (till i found that great teletubby one). I'll add it on a website real quick and add a link.



Gates as Hitler? I tell people that all the time, they call me a sick fuck, but then again they're easily led and weak minded. Exonomic cleansing is a danger to free-trade. I say boycott the monster.

[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: Mysterio ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Master of Reality on 25 March 2002, 08:15
quote:
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/not-the-osi/dergates.jpg  


thats hilarious. you guys have seen the "microsoft Final Solution" ad havent you?
umm...here http://fuckmicrosoft.com/images/final.gif (http://fuckmicrosoft.com/images/final.gif)
and this one http://fuckmicrosoft.com/images/xp-launch.jpg (http://fuckmicrosoft.com/images/xp-launch.jpg)
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 29 March 2002, 17:08
lol, i couldn't keep this to myself.  While prowling an xbox forum i found this:

 
quote:
Originally posted by gandalfgrayham
Commercially Linux is a joke. The free applications and open source is a joke, and most of it is crap anyway. Tell me of one good word processor for Linux, just one, that has the ability to simple spell check. You can't.


 
quote:
Originally posted by gandalfgrayham
There is infinetly more free software for Windows then Linux will ever get.


 
quote:
Originally posted by gandalfgrayham
Basically, Windows is just as prgramable as Linux. Making both relatively open source.


 
quote:
Originally posted by gandalfgrayham
Again, this is more BS. Opening up a program and seeing how it work is fully possible with windows apps. Not all, since some are commercial. But there is plenty out there you can easily open and see how it works.


 
quote:
Originally posted by gandalfgrayham
Again, I just made you look like a dolt. And proved your open source community will make money any chance it can get.


lol, and the granddaddy of them all, get this:

 
quote:
Originally posted by Superdud
Nintendo has been criticized as being the most "notorious video game company in history." Through their considerable influence in the market during the late 1980s, they were able to control much of the industry using intimidation, scare tactics, and price-fixing. It is interesting to note the events leading up to this domination, and the players involved.

Nintendo, who had been suffering financially since the gaming market crash during the Third Generation, entered the Fourth Generation market with a system that many consider to be inferior to the competing systems of that time. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Nintendo's president, instructed his engineers to leave out the frills of the other gaming systems, and include only the essentials to save money. The system would only have 2,000 bytes of RAM as opposed to the Sega Master System, a competing system, which had 64 kilobytes of RAM. Industry standard graphic processors were dropped in favor of cheaper, less functional, non-standard ones. The push to produce this system was intensified by the fact that the Master System, and other competing systems, had all been in the stores for months, and were achieving great success. When the system was ultimately finished, the defect rate would be as high as 30% per shipment which angered many retailers and turned them against Nintendo (eventually damaging many of these retailers when Nintendo attained the popularity that they did.)

After the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) was released, Nintendo pressed for huge media infiltration of their advertisements, which was something not being done by competing systems. The market had been extremely slow in the previous years, and many companies were very cautious. Nintendo, fueled by a marketing drive rarely seen, was able to capture nearly 90% of the U.S. gaming market by 1986. This popularity had dozens of gaming companies at Nintendo's door to produce titles for their system. However, because of Yamauchi's foresight, Nintendo had changed the previous "free-market" set up of the industry with the inclusion of something called a "key-chip" in his NES units.

During the preceding generations, a video game programmer would simply purchase the equipment to construct games for a system from the system's parent company. The programmer was then was free to design any game without permission from the company. Yamauchi did not like this freedom given to the designers. So he had his engineers create a chip that would lock out the instruction code from any cartridge, unless that cartridge contained another chip, called a "key-chip." This "key-chip" had a certain disabling code. The disabling code was then patented by Nintendo and copyrighted. The result was that it became illegal to reproduce the code, without Nintendo's consent. Nintendo then made specific contracts that companies must agree to abide by in order to receive permission to reproduce the "key-chip." This gave Nintendo complete control over its third party licensees, and they used that control to propel the Nintendo Entertainment System farther. Specific deals were made which prevented these companies from producing games for any competing home system. Because of Nintendo's considerable market share, few companies argued with this policy. The result was that many competing systems were driven to extinction because of a severe lack of games. Companies like Atari and Sega could not hope to compete with a system with over 100 new games each year, when they could only produce a dozen or so annually without the help of third party licensees. This propelled Nintendo's domination of the market further.

Nintendo began orchestrating game shortages sometime in 1988. This was called "inventory management" by Peter Main, an executive in charge of public relations at Nintendo, but was really to keep the customers on a short leash. By limiting the amount of product available, Nintendo could keep the demand for the product high. The editor of one toy-industry journal noted that "Nintendo has become a name like Disney or McDonald's. They've done it by doling out games like Godiva chocolates." By design, Nintendo would not fill all of the retailers' orders and kept half or more of its library of games inactive and unavailable. In 1988, for instance, 33 million NES cartridges were sold, but market surveys indicated that upwards of 45 million could have been sold. That year retailers requested 110 million cartridges, almost 2.5 times the indicated demand. These practices would greatly benefit Nintendo, but drive many smaller software firms out of business. Certain titles would be produced, then sold very slowly over the span of a year, and the profits would not come in fast enough to keep these small companies afloat. The toy and electronics as well as department stores became dependent on Nintendo, in addition to most game producers. This gave Nintendo a great deal of clout in dealing with companies who were used to throwing their muscle around. 9, 6

One such company was Child World, at the time, the second largest toy-store chain in the United States. They refused to play by Nintendo's rules, and ended relations with them. By 1989, they were experiencing severe financial difficulties due to the loss of 20% of their sales through video games. They came back to Nintendo, trying to appease them, and were met with open hostility. Nintendo agreed to sell them product again, but they would have to pay for the product a year in advance.

Another Nintendo policy that made retailers furious was their return policy, or lack thereof. Because Nintendo's quality control was boasting a defect rate of 0.9% for hardware and 0.25% for software by 1988, Nintendo executives did not see a need for their previous 90 day guarantee. A new policy was announced to the retailers: no returns. Once a game cartridge box or system box was opened, a refund was out of the question.

Nintendo's next atrocity would be to use the considerable monopoly they had to control the consumer. Because of the game shortages, consumers would be more concerned about getting a particular title than the price. And because of Nintendo's domineering stance with the retailers, they were able to dictate the expected prices for their games.

In the electronics and computer industry, you can expect equipment to reduce in price over time. When new devices are created that make older ones obsolete, the older devices are reduced in price to compete with the newer ones. This is clearly evident if one simply peruses the want-ads in their local paper and notes the prices of computer systems that were considered state of the art a year previous. This logic applies to all aspects of the computer and electronics industry, including video games. Why then between 1985 and 1989 did the Nintendo Entertainment System only lower $10 in its price?

This was exactly what Attorney Generals from all fifty states were wondering when they began investigating the activities of Nintendo of America in 1989. They found that Nintendo had been fixing the price of systems and games in the stores, using intimidation to influence retailers to abide by their wishes, and were making astronomical profits. Nintendo had been doing this since they first brought out the NES in 1985. They had strived to construct the system inexpensively, however, it was being sold at the same price as the competing systems. An antitrust action was brought up against Nintendo by these same Attorney Generals, and on October 17, 1991, District Court Judge Sweet granted approval of settlement agreements.

Nintendo was ordered to reimburse $25 million to consumers who had purchased systems and games between June 1, 1988 and December 31, 1990. This was to be done through coupons that entitled the bearer to an immediate $5.00 reduction in the purchase price of any NES game cartridge. This was to be for every game purchased by the customer. If someone had five games they would be entitled to $25 in coupons. While they were ordered to pay $25 million, they wound up only paying around $1.5 million. The reason for this was because Nintendo convinced the Judge that they needed to be certain of a consumer's truthfulness regarding ownership of the system before they could reimburse them. The Judge agreed, and allowed Nintendo to make their own terms. Nintendo required that the consumer had three things: the dated store receipt, the UPC code from the original box, and the serial number from the back of the unit. Considering that this occurred in 1991, how many customers do you think still had the original UPC code from the box let alone the dated store receipt from 1988? This is why the refund failed, because only around 300,000 people qualified based on Nintendo's guidelines.

The final problem Nintendo would cause before they were humbled by Sega in the early 1990s, would be to hinder the production of 16-bit systems against the consumers' requests.

In 1988, Nintendo said, "We feel that the average game player is not mature enough for a 16-bit system, and that the demand is insufficient for it to be a high priority." They were wrong. In the summer of 1989, the first 16-bit system, called Genesis and produced by Sega, would arrive in the stores. By the next Christmas, they were outselling Nintendo's NES 3 to 1 9 and Nintendo was losing many of their licensees to Sega. This forced Nintendo to reconsider its decision about 16-bit technology, and begin designing one of their own.

Is that enough, or do you want more?

Everything that people claim MS has done, Nintendo has done in the gaming market, and MORE.



Indeed, MS was smart hitting up this market.  They'll grow all sorts of blind fanboys to support their future products.

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 29 March 2002, 20:27
WOW! I would like everyone to note that this moron's info. on nintendo is a pile of crap. The SMS was not even in the works when Nintendo made the Famicom. The Famicom was a success in Japan and it was not simply a pared down system, it really was the most advanced of it's time (Atari 2600 anyone). Sega came later after Nintendo's success but never quite caught on.

Also the huge conspiracy crap of Nintendo's media infiltration etc. Is also crap. Nintendo was nearly broke and was betting the farm on it's system. Because of the 1984 Video Game crash most stores didn't want to touch a video games system. Remember the robot? That was a ploy to get the stores to sell NES's as Robot Buddys or somecrap.

Anyway, the NES had a very small release, It was just so good that it really caught on. The first year saw it sold out 'cuz there weren't enugh to go around.

He is right on the third party developer issue, and nintendo did get busted for that. But that's not even an issue today with the XShit since the Nintendo case effectivly stoped all videogame makers from the same practices.

The XBox is a load of crap. It's overhyped garbage, something the NES wasn't, because it wasn't even hyped o begin with!

If you wan't some real video game History head over to www.classicgaming.com, (http://www.classicgaming.com,) they have it all, unlike this dilmonkey.

And as far as a free wordprcessor: AbiWord, StarOffice, OpenOffice, etc. etc. Furthermore he does not seem to have any understanding of File structure, programing, or what open source means. He has no understanding of the kernal architecture in *NIX system, or what sort of Free software is available. This Asshole has an orchestra talking out his ass.

here's another good one:

http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?history/index.htm (http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?history/index.htm)

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 29 March 2002, 23:33
"Basically, Windows is just as prgramable as Linux. Making both relatively open source."

God I can't get over this line, I came back here to check my post, it's just so ful of ht it's hillarious!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!! Oh my God, it's funny, that's it, I got a new signiature! People don't take it the wrong way  :D .
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 29 March 2002, 23:35
Hows it look?
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 30 March 2002, 17:07
quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
Hows it look?


Haha, i love it!!

Oh, heres another one i found.. they're coming out now.. beware!

 
quote:

Originally posted by XMAN2002

http://forums.legendsalliance.com/viewtopic.php?p=121084#121084 (http://forums.legendsalliance.com/viewtopic.php?p=121084#121084)

   Retard! They don't charge you nor force you for I.E. It is a free service! Dumbass! You can also use netscape or whatever you want, duh! They don't force anything on you. Name one thing that they make you buy? Can't can you dipshit!

Microsoft is (nearly) a monopoly because it is what the people are buying. Obviousely they are doing there stuff better than the other guys. I personally love the quality of everything that I have of theirs because they take the time to make the best, i.e., Best Mouse, gamepad, keyboards, operating system, games,etc.

So the little companies can't keep up! Wah! I don't feel sorry for 'em. Quit putting out crap and people will buy what you got.


What a hoot!

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 31 March 2002, 03:02
so sad, so very very sad.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Nintendo fan 1 on 14 April 2002, 18:08
Hey Shiggy, do you post as Nintendo Nation at the Nintensity boards?  Because I have seen both of your Sigs, the all hail Bill Gates in sarcasm one, and the Tellitubby Bill one (my personal favorite :-D).  Dude, if it's you what's up?!  BTW, MS sucks ass, and they deserve to be shut down for robbing the consumer of choice.  Sure, the XBOX is OKAY, but it pales in comparison to the GameCube and the PS2 in terms of great gameplay!
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 17 April 2002, 11:35
quote:
Originally posted by Nintendo fan 1:
Hey Shiggy, do you post as Nintendo Nation at the Nintensity boards?  Because I have seen both of your Sigs, the all hail Bill Gates in sarcasm one, and the Tellitubby Bill one (my personal favorite :-D).  Dude, if it's you what's up?!  BTW, MS sucks ass, and they deserve to be shut down for robbing the consumer of choice.  Sure, the XBOX is OKAY, but it pales in comparison to the GameCube and the PS2 in terms of great gameplay!


Whoa .. how'd you find me here?!  lol, yup its me, the anti-ms fanboy  ;) .  Looking at current sales in both europe and japan.. i agree.  Microsoft needs to stay in their monopolized world instead of venturing into new markets.. i think they think that everything they do will become great.  You can't bundle xbox in IE mr bill gates!
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: foobar on 17 April 2002, 19:47
quote:
Originally posted by shiggy:


What a hoot!

[ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: shiggy ]



lol, this is good stuff.

Hey, maybe this is ever worse!

Here in lil' ol' holland, they want to start putting exams on computers.
So in about 2003, they want 50% of all students in holland have a go at their exams on a computer.
I'll bet my ass that there will be a M$ OS on each of those darn computers. I'm also sure they'll be running windoze xpee.

I assume you understand my statement. If your windows computer crashes (have for an example the guy who recently posted here because his XP simply crashed after a short period of use)
while doing, or worse, after you finished your exam, you are in the deepest of shite.

But still, Bill got his $$$ on licences ....
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 17 April 2002, 21:11
quote:
Originally posted by -=f00bar=-:


lol, this is good stuff.

Hey, maybe this is ever worse!

Here in lil' ol' holland, they want to start putting exams on computers.
So in about 2003, they want 50% of all students in holland have a go at their exams on a computer.
I'll bet my ass that there will be a M$ OS on each of those darn computers. I'm also sure they'll be running windoze xpee.

I assume you understand my statement. If your windows computer crashes (have for an example the guy who recently posted here because his XP simply crashed after a short period of use)
while doing, or worse, after you finished your exam, you are in the deepest of shite.

But still, Bill got his $$$ on licences ....




Well, it looks like countrys are starting to reject microsofts new license schemes.. one can only hope that others will follow...

I feel for you though.  My wife has to use microsoft products at school and then at home.  I built another computer and installed winblows 98 on it for her because i refused to dual boot with it.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: foobar on 17 April 2002, 22:38
Reject ?
I think you got me wrong, my friend.
They're doing exactly what macroshaft wants.
I'm sure that in a year or two, our school will have to upgrade all of their computers, and M$ will only gain money...

The webmaster of our school is a good friend o' mine, and he says they have win98 on their PC's because of macroshaft's monopoly, because everybody knows nothing but windows, windows, windows. That's nice, but incredibly expensive. 'cuz they have about 200+ computers there, and, even if they had just one pc running some
M$ crap, they'd have to pay for the rest of the 199 too, as if all had M$ crap.

nuff said ...
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Calum on 17 April 2002, 23:39
i am no old fart. (my high school years were 1989 to 1995) but my gob has rarely been this smacked! there is NO way that a vfat/msdos based system is anywhere near the standard required to run an exam on.
A pen and paper will rarely fail on you, and even if they do, it is minor to replace them, not to mention cheaper.

Imagine a roomful of 120 exam doing students. they ALL have to know how to use the software in addition to doing the exam, plus out of 120, say over 3 1/2 hours, how many are going to crash? running windows we assume. At least one or two, average that out over a few thousand students and it's unworkable! and they will never get a failsafe licence from Microsoft.

I would honestly refuse to do an exam on a computer, and due to the distraction factor, to do an exam in a room where a computer was running.

Even if they were all in favour of exams on computers, they would be mad not to follow all the evidence of computing history since the sixties and run it on a unix network, with terminals all linked to the same system, so that the students' efforts can be logged (backed up) as they work. Also with this model, the individual terminals can never crash.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Kintaro on 18 April 2002, 12:20
But ext3 wont fail you, but i agree, the idea of a paperless office is absolute bullshit. And im only 14 so im no old fart either.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: foobar on 18 April 2002, 22:23
Yep Calum, but it's the cold truth.

I heard of the news yesterday, us was told that there were absolute serious plans of making those exams on computers.
In fact, they had already finished some kind of beta version and are testing it as we speak.
Like i said before, i'll bet my ass there'll be windows running on each one of those pc's, and just think about how unstable those pc's will be, most likely 'cuz they're running XP.
I see this as a threat to me, because the microsoft monopoly wasn't only in your school, but now it's going to knock down paper. I think that is total bullshit. I'd rather do 500 paper exams than 1 exam on an xpee computer.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Calum on 19 April 2002, 01:10
you won't have to.

it will not become compulsory for a very long time, and by that time computers will have advanced so far that M$ will no longer exist.

Remember if they don't give you the choice between a pen and a Microsoft machine, then it's a bloody dictatorship.

I don't seriously think they will force you to use windows for an exam so don't lose any sleep over it, i reckon!
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Kintaro on 19 April 2002, 14:16
If exams do go onto the PC, wouldnt you be able to run the software in WINE????
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: foobar on 21 April 2002, 23:29
i surely hope they won't advance rapidly with the 'pc exam' thingy, but at school they really said this:

In 2005 we want to have 50% of all students doing their exams on pc's

It's bloody bullshit. You're right calum, they won't get me. I'd rather just choose pen and paper.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 18 May 2002, 08:03
You've got to see this, this gave me about an hour of laughs!!

 
quote:
Originally posted by 32x4life
Whoa! Just you hold on a minute!!!

How dare you refer to microsoft as a "****ty cash cow"??!! If it was not for their holy wisdom we would of never had the greatest video system ever made! Oh, they could of been like sony and said, "well we'll just thow a ugly peice of crap to gether and let the hype sell it" but no, not only does it have the most advance gpu of any console in the history of the world, microsoft would not rest untill it had a hard drive and a network card to boot, even knowing that the astounding capabilities of the Xbox would make them loose money on each unit sold. They were willing to make those sacrifices for US, because thats how much they love us. And still you have the nerve to call them a "****ty cash cow".

And lets be honest. 99% of people out there would not be able to understand how to use a computer, would it not be for windows bright and userfriendly graphical interface (some people say this interface was stolen by Microsoft, even if this absurd accusation is true, as least they knew how to effetively market this product, whereas the same thing cannot be said for the supposed inventors). The wounderful and flexable os known as windows dramatically increased pc sales thereby creating jobs and boosting the economy, not to metion it gave millinons of "normal people" (as opposed to fat linux geeks living in their parents basments) access to the rich resources of the internet. In addition, windows also contributed to the fesibility of online gaming.

How dare you call a "****ty cash cow" when in the kindness of their benevolent hearts, donate BILLIONS to puplic schools so that every child has a fair chance at getting a proper education.

****ty cash cow indeed. You sir/mam are not even fit to live on the same planet as Bill Gates. Well maybe they are a ****ty cash cow, but this cows milk has Strengthened the bones of the world.


http://forums.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?s=70b56501a3314901ec8917fb39022440&threadid=92725 (http://forums.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?s=70b56501a3314901ec8917fb39022440&threadid=92725)
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Master of Reality on 18 May 2002, 19:09
holy fuck...
 
quote:
even knowing
               that the astounding capabilities of the Xbox would make them loose money on each unit sold

yep they definatly are losing money on the Xbox, but it may have something to do with the scratches it puts on the CDs because it was made by crappy untrained slave labor kids in korea.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Master of Reality on 18 May 2002, 19:16
i would post there but i think "xbox_ownz" did a pretty good job of summing up how pathetic that guys post is.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: psyjax on 18 May 2002, 22:14
shiggy,

Get that guy to come here  :D

I bet we would all love a bit of debate with his very interesting ideas.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: mael on 19 May 2002, 17:46
quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
shiggy,

Get that guy to come here   :D  

I bet we would all love a bit of debate with his very interesting ideas.



LOL, i'd love to but im sure he'd spend his time praying to bill gates after hearing a site like this exists.  Its like Microsoft is the Jesus Christ of the world, and the xbox was the second coming.  Im getting sick and tired of people treaing MS like they love people, thats why they added all those 'neato' features.  Idiots.
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: Aaron Ni on 20 May 2002, 06:55
Great googly mook!  I've seen people who've survived a head on collision with a Kenworth and have better sense about MS's plans than that prick!  So bring that guy over here because I do love a post in which a fanboy's "MS Cherry" is popped with a 10lb sledge as the cold hard truth is put in front of him.

(http://assaultweb.net/ubb/emoticons/014.gif)
*Cackles*

[ May 19, 2002: Message edited by: Aaron ]

Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: IvoryTower on 5 June 2002, 06:58
That was just too twisted to be real...I'd be willing to bet that he/she is an M$ plant...possibly even f
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: ravuya on 10 June 2002, 02:50
quote:
Originally posted by psyjax:
The XBox has latched on the user base of gamers who like to smoke pot listen to really loud base and watch pretty colors and gore on their screen as they chuckle Bevis and Butthead like.



Sounds like the entire goddamn user base for Windows. Remember, every time a Windows user insults another OS...

"* sucks because it has no games"

Just let these fuckheads begin to die off from jumping off bridges while they're high.

Real tragedy pot won't kill you as fast as other narcotics...
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: lazygamer on 24 June 2002, 07:36
WTF is up with defiling pot? Pot is too l33t for these losers. The people who are hacking the shit out of the Windoze fanboys, now those dudes are the pot smokers.  (http://smile.gif)
Title: Xbox fanboys
Post by: choasforages on 24 June 2002, 07:47
hahhahahaha, good one windoids get high off of frustration.