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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft Hardware => Topic started by: lazygamer on 24 November 2002, 22:11
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So I went to a small party(a gathering actually), last night and got drunk. Heh heh cool. Of course im too powerful to actually throw up. This chick kept thinking I was gonna puke, but nope, too strong for that. (http://smile.gif)
Anyways, there was cool shit going on. Plenty of 4 on 4 Halo gaming on a big screen TV, with an excellent mp3 hip-hop wigga soundtrack from the computer, hooked up to the big TV speakers.
Ok ok but we're here to talk about the X-box and my experiences with it. Well, I liked some of Halo's weapons. The graphics were excellent and framerates were good and consistent. I felt the controllers were rather uncomfortable though. Seemed to put a lot of strain on the fingers, and I had trouble with the whole mini-joystick aiming system, too used to the mouse+keyboard.
Not a single crash, but I suppose X-box woulden't crash nearly as often as wind0ze.
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Actually the XBOX does run a stripped down version of Windows if I'm not mistaken; the reason it doesn't crash at all (or once in a blue moon) is because the hardware is all standardized like a mac and therefore it's easy to work out all the stability problems.
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So what do you call this then?:
(http://fuckxbox.resynthesis.net/images/green-screen-of-death.jpg)
(a picture I placed before I edited this...) (http://www.geocities.com/opcfg/evilbill.jpg)
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Refalm ]
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<Simpsons voice> Ha ha </Simpsons voice>
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http://fuckxbox.resynthesis.net/cgi-bin/fuckxbox/viewcomment.pl (http://fuckxbox.resynthesis.net/cgi-bin/fuckxbox/viewcomment.pl)
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the green screen of death is from a debug kit, not a retail unit. (http://smile.gif)
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: * Red Ranger Software * PC Commando ]
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Originally posted by Refalm:
So what do you call this then?:
(http://fuckxbox.resynthesis.net/images/green-screen-of-death.jpg)
(a picture I placed before I edited this...) (http://www.geocities.com/opcfg/evilbill.jpg)
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Refalm ]
I call it the XDK - It's microsoft's dev kit for xbox. of course a still-in-development game would crash. nevertheless, i have witnessed my buddy's shitBox crash many a time - but it just hangs :mad: and right as i was about to beat a level in splinter cell!
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And it's controller sucks my wee-wee! Ok I admit, I don't have big hands, but I don't have small hands either. Of course in a few years I hope to get big hands like my dad... size rox. (http://smile.gif)
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lol - i have HUGE hands and the controller feels just right. which means that to most people, the controller is WAY TOO BIG!!
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hehehe, yeah, new way to brag.
i can hold an xbox controller, and do it comfortably
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i saw first hand how much the xbox sucks. i was at best buy, and they have a playstation2, a game cube, and an xbox on display, they are all there for you to play. the xbox had green screened. i made a comment to my friend, and an employee overheard and said that it has been crashing all week, turns out all 3 systems have been running for roughly the same amount of time, and recieved the same amount of game play. the other two had not crashed. xbox is no good.
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here is the problem with xbox - quality control. I have dreamcast, ps2, gamecube and xbox. And my xbox has never crashed. My buddy's xbox crashes ALL THE TIME. This is a problem with the way they are contstructed: they take a bunch of PC parts and hand them to some 12-year-old child laborer. If the kid knows how to put that shit together right, then u get a good xbox like mine. If the kid doesnt know how to do it, then you get a POS xbox that has loose connections, screws, etc. of course, it also has to do with the kernel, but i think it is actually mainly hardware.
Also keep in mind that M$ just doesnt care enough to thoroughly test xboxes before they ship.
Keep in mind that PS2s stop reading cds after a while and must be recalibrated. So Xbox isnt the only piece of shit console out there. not that that makes it right for it to crash.
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: cloudstrife ]
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: cloudstrife ]
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Originally posted by Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:
<Simpsons voice> Ha ha </Simpsons voice>
Nelson.
And I have always thought about geting and X-Box. I'd love to use it just to pop all my MP3's and Roms on there that are clutteting up my HD. Then I could happily emulate away. But then I always come back to Reality (http://www.metroid.com/)
[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Fett101 ]
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Some say the X-Box is very stable for a Microsoft Product... They say they are doing a good job... but heres whats really going to happen.
Sure the X-Box didnt crash much, but Windows 3.x didnt do that much either, just wait till they get everyone in the cycle, and then they will put timer bugs in... 2 years and the X-Box will crash lots, to get you to get an "upgrade".
They can dominate the Operating System for the cheapest machines that all will buy... then they can dominate the Web Browser... then attempt the Web Server and stuff... Well what next, hmmmmm lets try and blow sony and Nintendo out of the water... what next... the tv market... hifi... porno?... World Politics (All hail fruher gates)...
Who knows what next... but if we dont act fast like we should have on the Personal Computer years ago.... The console will be shit out of luck to.
The only reason MS used a more stable kernel for XP was because they ph3ar the p3nguin.
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And I have always thought about geting and X-Box. I'd love to use it just to pop all my MP3's and Roms on there that are clutteting up my HD. Then I could happily emulate away. But then I always come back to Reality (http://www.metroid.com)
hehehehe that was awesome. (http://smile.gif)
my friend owns an xbox (I own a GCN) and he is always trying to show me what it can do......half the time when he puts a game in it wont work and he has to take out and try again...its pathetic....I have also seen one of those green screens of death.....I cried with laughter.
[ November 25, 2002: Message edited by: ShigeruMiyamoto ]
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somebody said the reason the xbox was no good was 'quality control'. that's only half right. in my opinion, it's too much control and not enough quality...
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Originally posted by X11 / BOB: l33t h4x0r:
just wait till they get everyone in the cycle, and then they will put timer bugs in... 2 years and the X-Box will crash lots, to get you to get an "upgrade".
That would be unecessary to do in the console market since there is already a cycle in place. Ninty and Sony relase a new console every 3-5 years (aprox). MS would be wasting time bothering to put in such code since a new console is a given.
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I still believe that in the console world, that technology upgrades are exponential.
So the current crop of systems are harder to replace three years from now. The next crop of systems after PS2/XBOX/GC will be even harder to replace.
You ever wonder why intel suddenly decided to slow down their obsolecense speed? Their rate of advancement had become vastly superior to the rate of software advancement. So if they had 4GHZ chips on the market now, 1.4GHZ chips would be very cheap. 1.4GHZ would be all you need for good speed.
So if the rate of software advancement is different then the rate of hardware advancement, the game developers won't be ready to push the limits of the next generation systems as much. Becuase of this, they simpy will delay the next generation systems.
At least with the console upgrade cycle, it's good for the consumer. The SNES started in 1991 right? They still made games up until 1997, possible even 1998. PS1 was available in 1995 IIRC. The NES started in 1984 I think. They didn't stop making games until at least 1994.
Compare your NES to your SNES, compare your SNES to your Gamecube. Ok now look at the MS and PC upgrade cycle. Suddenly this console upgrade cycle ain't so unfair. (http://smile.gif)
They push the limits on consoles. On PCs they use the upgradability of the PC, and the consumer upgrade rate, in order to let better hardware pick up the slack of Lazy coding. Think your game's system requirements(including wind0ze system requirements) are only because of better features? Think again. (http://tongue.gif)
I mean shoulden't Windows XP have only moderately higher system requirements then Windows95? W95 can run quite slow on a 486, XP should be able to run quite slow a P90. By quite slow I mean slow, but not so slow that it's pointless to even bother with it. I remember putting W95 on my 486/50 many years ago. It was quite a bit slower then Windows 3.1, but hardly unusable.