Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => Applications => Topic started by: CF_GE on 14 June 2002, 17:06
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I hate outlook because I can add the MSN junkmail to the junkmail senders list, but it still comes to my inbox. It won't stop. - Fuck them!
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i hate outlook because legions of morons use it, and it results in tons of broken rtf format and broken html junk floating around as emails, and buggering up the text for those of us who like text only inboxes.
Also, it is part of the relentless shitml combo of internet exploder, lookout, M$Nmessmaker and Frontpage, which turns browsing the internet into a relentless nonstandard tiresome chore, even for those who do not use those products.
If Microsoft's products only pissed people off who were actually using them, then i'd be a great deal happier.
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...and buggering up the text for those of us who like text only inboxes.
And I suppose you are offended by websites with graphics because they don't render well in Lynx.
You want webmasters to make optional "ascii-art" logos of their websites.
You're also appalled by newfangled games that require 128 mb RAM to run.
I've used Kmail and Evolution on my Linux box and they can read html mail perfectly...
PS I thought your modem was broken under Linux
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it is, and all those accusations you level are total bullshit.
My email is web based, and i prefer to get my email as text, because i like it that way, simple.
that has nothing to do with images, or html, though i think if html is to be used, it should be forced to comply to the w3c standard, something no M$ product has demonstrated it can be trusted to do.
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My email is web based
You must have a good connection.
I can't stand waiting for hotmail to load; it's too slow. I use pop3 email most of the time.
Outlook I have no problems with other than it's a tad dangerous what with the viruses being so easily spread and all.
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I Use popmail... but i acsess it from Webmin anyway.
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XP Loser:
all that crap he spouts above...
i don't use hotmail. I have a hotmail account for the rare occasions that i use trillian though...
When i say 'text based inbox' you assume "Linux" (wrongly)
When i say 'web based email' you assume "Hotmail" (again wrongly)
Your assumptions betray you, how can you expect people to take you seriously? do you in fact expect that?
I have a web based account at www.eboxmail.net (http://www.eboxmail.net) which is not the best i suppose, but the inbox is six megabytes compared to hotmail's one (or is it 2 these days?) i haven't got one spam email yet, and they seem to have the most advanced blocking filtering thing that i have seen on web based email so far, so i'm happy, since it's free...
oh yes, and quote:
The site eboxmail.net is running Apache/1.3.22 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2 PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.24_01 on Linux.
to save you a trip to netcraft, but then you probably won't believe that anyway since quote:
The site netcraft.com is running Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_perl/1.20 on FreeBSD.
One more thing, quote:
The site hotmail.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.
Maybe that's the secret of why hotmail's so slow?
[ June 14, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]
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i think it should be called outlock
as in lock it away and throw out the key
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I prefer the name "Lookout" which I saw some other user here refer to it as. That is you have to look out if you use it because you are sure to have a virus infected machine in no time flat.
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yeah, lookout and lockitup, now that is an idea, any email client that can execute harmful scripts is ghey anyway you try to make it sound, phuq outlook
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Originally posted by Calum:
i think if html is to be used, it should be forced to comply to the w3c standard, something no M$ product has demonstrated it can be trusted to do.
There you go with that W3C crap again. I don't see why I should have to put <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> at the top of every page just because a bunch of wankers says so. If my site works in IE, I'm happy.
[ June 18, 2002: Message edited by: * Red Ranger Software * ]
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damn, we get rid of one shitbrain, we end up with another. look at this assclown
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said by: *red ranger software*
There you go with that W3C crap again. I don't see why I should have to put <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> at the top of every page just because a bunch of wankers says so. If my site works in IE, I'm happy.
those "wankers" came up with the html standerd. standards are important or else everything would be owned by microsoft. huh, maybe that boogles your negative i.q. mind. now if only they could clone humans cuase then you would be able to go fuck yourself. huh, get that yeah sit down you sack of shit.
edit, damn it feels good to say that, least i wasn't taking xp's bait. besides, calum and x11, might not be happy cause i beat them to the flame. :D
[ June 14, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]
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Dont forget that every email based virus known attaches itself through holes in outlook that MS refuses to fix, then emails to everyone on your mailing list.
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Tell me, why is W3C in any more of a position to dictate standards than Microsoft is? Furthermore, since IE is used by 95% of computer users, why don't other browsers just conform to the standards set by IE, and we would have none of this horse shit?
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Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Tell me, why is W3C in any more of a position to dictate standards than Microsoft is? Furthermore, since IE is used by 95% of computer users, why don't other browsers just conform to the standards set by IE, and we would have none of this horse shit?
W3C is needed for making standards. Your statement is like saying why have IEEE, why not just let intel make up all hardware standards. You obviously dont have an understanding of this.
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Background
In October 1994, Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the Web, founded the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Laboratory for Computer Science [MIT/LCS] in collaboration with CERN, where the Web originated, with support from DARPA and the European Commission. For further information on the joint initiative and the contributions of CERN, INRIA, and MIT, please see the statement on the joint World Wide Web Initiative.
I think the inventor of the world wide web is the best person qualified to set up the regulatory body for the web, don't you?
Actually, XP Loser does not agree with any regulatory body unless they are Microsoft. It is imperative however that all regulatory bodies be independent of their relative markets. This is because it promotes fairness, and does not encourage a monopoly which is always detrimental to the consumer, and hence the industry.
Gooseberry Cock, (hiding behind red ranger software) you state that your html is only tested in IE because you do not care about other browsers. This illuminates your mindset. I will not comment upon you further.
One thing, my html is w3c compliant as far as i know, and it does not have that line in it. You may go to my site (the link's in my signature) and view the source if you like. I confess i have not tested it in Amaya yet, so i may be wrong on this score. However it works fine in multiple versions of five of the most common browsers (including IE, i found out totally by accident...)
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No no you've gotten it all wrong; anyone can tell you it's Al Gore who invented the internet, not this imposter.
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i thought it was george bush myself...
Ear ache my eye!!!!!!!
I've got a rubbish taste in music
Windows XP, Suddenly everything clicks.
Goosenbury Clock, MacOS is based on Windows
Microsoft XBOX, The third place
Windows 2000, powerfulll
linux, slow
Microsoft .net, never thought of before
Microsoft Office, Easy and simple
Internet Explorer, Security our focus
Microsoft IIS, Powerfull!
Apache, Slow
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Originally posted by * Red Ranger Software *:
There you go with that W3C crap again. I don't see why I should have to put <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> at the top of every page just because a bunch of wankers says so. If my site works in IE, I'm happy.
I aggree here (what happend to your nick and all your cool friends at clockcrew.cc (http://smile.gif) )
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Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Tell me, why is W3C in any more of a position to dictate standards than Microsoft is? Furthermore, since IE is used by 95% of computer users, why don't other browsers just conform to the standards set by IE, and we would have none of this horse shit?
Thats a ridiculous argument! I suppose you think since most of the Englsh speaking peoples are Americans, we should switch the standards to American words (i.e. colors instead of colours, subway instead of the underground). Also, M$ speaks chinease as a first language we should also all do so. (err, is it Chinease or english, or maybe Spanish?) well whatever it is, the prinicpal is the same. Also, M$ would always have first knowledge of the standards, and that would be bad, because they would come out with the newest releases. I mean lets say IEs developing team spends 6 monts working on a new feature, and then releases the feature and the new ver of the browser to the public. It would take Mozilla 6 months to catch up, and everyone would be sure to use IE. And knowing M$, they would probably start to keep the standards secret so that no one else could pick them up and use them. (I know that seems ludicris, but its M$, they will do anything to dominate the indusrty!)
-Justice
p.s. edit: better analogy
[ June 16, 2002: Message edited by: iustitia ]
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Oh yeah, I hate Lookout XPress because the news service sucks. Its almost like they dont want to promate freedom of speach and learning. Everytime you click on a post, the post comes up in full text w/o you asking, causing a huge slowdown. And thinking of putting together seperated binaries? Use Lookout and forget about it!
-Justice
p.s. what about the name Lockout, since it requires that stupid key in order to use the program!
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I hate Outlook. I tried to configure it to prompt for my password before accessing my account and it locked me out of my account instead. I had to delete my account and create a new one to get it back. The only way i could get my mail was for Outlook to remember my password. Another thing is that Outlook and Virus Express never fully integrated so i had to allow two mail programs to access the net to get the mail for one. Not to mention that it would crash for the littlest thing. It was such a PITA that i moved to Mozilla. Haven't had any problems so far and i love it.
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I hate and stopped using outlook. Why ?
Because for a while last year, the news was constantly talking about dangerous virii for the program Outlook (as those probably MS-using news basterds call it) and that millions of [M$] pc's were infected and that the one who did it was wanted by the police. Like I saw someone on this forums say in his signature, he's bloody right:
You won't start hating M$ until you've got something else !!
And, outlook is buggy as hell. If you make a new account, fill it in and start it up, than (that's what happened to me) you will get one person from somebody else's adressbook already added to your list ... it's hilarious !
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Then it must be in the shared contacts.
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Your Windows Messenger buddies are automaticly listed in Outlook Express too...
Thank God, I'm using Mozilla Mail and Trillian now.
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Thank god im using Mozilla Mail 1.0.0 And Mozilla 1.0.0 And Trillian .93 and Zone Alarm Pro, And i think i will switch from Explorer to somthing else...
Then maybe somone should make an alt Windows Kernel too. That would be zer gut i think.
"So i fly, most people hate me, to fly, away from this pain" - KoRn
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outlook's outlook is looking dire
i work at an ISP tech support, and can tell you the woes of my day are outlook express problems.
Not really problems that i experience myself. I use outlook set up for imap to only get headers, so no sploits like auto executing attachments get me if more surface. My customers though, have a difficult time with things that are not even thier fault;
1. Servers get changed from smtp.isp.net and pop.isp.net to mail.isp.net which will not work. This is usually caused by an install of norton AV. I dont know whether to blame outlook or norton for this one, but i know for a fact that these settings do not need fucked with.
2. Sometimes outlook will NOT get mail no matter what you do, unless you restart the computer. Ive seen this on several versions of windows.
3. Outlook by default is set up with some really stupid defaults, ie. auto previewing messages, and blocking what it thinks are bad attachments, which often ends up being a .doc or .xls that you really need. Leave that to the AV scanner.
4. Outlook often has a problem on dialup with disconnecting you from the internet, because it thinks you are on a different connection, and then dials up again on the same damn one. There is also 3 diffrent places in the options to select which conection you want which all can have a different choice.
5. Outlook often times out when getting large attachments, even if you set the slider to 5 minutes.
like I said, I can use it fine, but computer dumb people can't and thats what it was supposedly designed for. We really dont get many calls for problems here, as the service runs smoothly, but when they do call in its someone about to cancel thier service because they cant get thier email again. Outlook fucked up and they dont understand that outlook is not our email system, just a client for getting mail. OH well, its the first program that was plopped in front of them, so thats all they know how to do.
p.s. i realize service pack 2 attempts to set better email settings, but not everyone has XP or wants sp2
please be nice when you retaliate, I am neither microsoft or linux, just a user
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Brandon - [A+/?]: We really dont get many calls for problems here, as the service runs smoothly, but when they do call in its someone about to cancel thier service because they cant get thier email again. Outlook fucked up and they dont understand that outlook is not our email system, just a client for getting mail. OH well, its the first program that was plopped in front of them, so thats all they know how to do.
AOL thought of something right afer all: bad software can kill an ISP.
Many user don't know the difference between their own computer and the Internet, and start to blame their ISP for everything.
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YES i get that alot
quote: "when i turn on my computer i get a blue screen and nothing happens, are you guys having a problem there?"
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I hate outlook, either.
Can we say most e-mail viruses aim to infect Outlook? (at least, an original target)
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Eric1968d: I hate outlook, either.
Can we say most e-mail viruses aim to infect Outlook? (at least, an original target)
Of course most virusses are for Outlook (Express).
Have you ever heard of a virus for Thunderbird, Groupwise, Eudora, Opera Mail or Evolution?
Thought so (http://smile.gif)
[ October 19, 2004: Message edited by: Refalm / BOB ]
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why I hate outlook ... hm ... cose it exists :D
it sucks just like the rest of MS products
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Why I hate Outlook Express:
1) The security is terrible. I like to call it MS Worm Spreader 2000.
2) It does NOT delete from your computer!! I removed all its registy files and it STILL comes back to haunt me!
3) It's Microsoft. Duh.
If you need an email client, go with Mozilla Thunderbird. But don't even bother with an email client if you have Hotmail, they charge you to let you use an email client.
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I've downloaded Thunderbird but it doesn't support Hotmail. (only POP and IMAP)
Can you help me to choose something else?
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I've downloaded Thunderbird but it doesn't support Hotmail. (only POP and IMAP)
Can you help me to choose something else?
I use Gmail. You want to be invited?
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I use Gmail. You want to be invited?
YEEEEEES! :D
I WANT!!!!
Or you're just joking? :confused:
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YEEEEEES! :D
I WANT!!!!
Or you're just joking? :confused:
Heh, no of course I'm not. PM me with your e-mail address you would live to receive your Gmail invite on.
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I've downloaded Thunderbird but it doesn't support Hotmail. (only POP and IMAP)
Can you help me to choose something else?
You have to pay Microsoft 20 dollars to use Hotmail with an email client (that include Outlook).
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You have to pay Microsoft 20 dollars to use Hotmail with an email client (that include Outlook).
I've given Giorgi, Gmail, which has free POP3 support (for now).