Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => Applications => Topic started by: icely2000 on 22 September 2002, 23:02
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Okay, I know this is an Anti-Microsoft site, I love this site but I also love Microsoft. I do not think that I will ever give up Microsoft Project, but I do want to test the waters with linux via LindowsOS.com.
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IE keep placing website in my Favorite Menu, even after I remove them. The next time I start up IE, or maybe even when I start up Windows they come back. is there anyone to remove these things for good?
Thanks,
William M Gary
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M$ sux.
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You might want to try www.windowsbbs.com (http://www.windowsbbs.com) for help with Windows.
I wouldn't want to test the waters with Lindows either...I think we are as against Windows as we are against Lindows. If you want to try linux but want the look, feel and some M$ apps, try www.lycoris.com (http://www.lycoris.com) it's way better than Lindows, and it's free. Download it from www.linuxiso.com (http://www.linuxiso.com) . You don't even have to trash Windows, you can dual boot.
Try it...be open when you do. You might enjoy computing for once...
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==== just infomation I think yall should know ====
Okay, I know this is an Anti-Microsoft site, I love this site but I also love Microsoft.
love? >sigh< why do they all come here? ... okay, i'll give him a chance... quote:
I do not think that I will ever give up Microsoft Project,
right. and am i wearing a t-shirt that says "I Care"? quote:
but I do want to test the waters with linux via LindowsOS.com.
oh gods. well you'll be wasting your time there then. the only way you can test linux out is by getting an actual linux distribution. if you want to flush your money down the toilet for shitty software then you might as well just keep buying windows. at least they are honest about their half assed software and sky high prices (after a fashion). Lindows has been bullshitting people that they're the gods' gift to linux for far too long.
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interesting, since you actually put about half of your post after this "end" mark.
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IE keep placing website in my Favorite Menu, even after I remove them. The next time I start up IE, or maybe even when I start up Windows they come back. is there anyone to remove these things for good?
to stop them coming up in IE, get mozilla (http://mozilla.org/), and to stop it happening when you start up windows, get Linux (http://linuxiso.org/).
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Thanks,
William M Gary
No problem. quote:
Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
You might want to try www.windowsbbs.com (http://www.windowsbbs.com) for help with Windows.
i agree, fuck off. Nothing personal but why are you coming here telling me i need to know you love Microsoft? i don't give a flying fuck what you do in your own time and i sure as fuck don't care whether you're going to fuck up your machine with lindows. Nevertheless it's a free country and as i said, nothin personal...
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I wouldn't want to test the waters with Lindows either...I think we are as against Windows as we are against Lindows. If you want to try linux but want the look, feel and some M$ apps, try www.lycoris.com (http://www.lycoris.com) it's way better than Lindows, and it's free. Download it from www.linuxiso.com (http://www.linuxiso.com) . You don't even have to trash Windows, you can dual boot.
Try it...be open when you do. You might enjoy computing for once...
Yeah, this is the advice i can never be bothered to give people anymore. Take this advice or push off. that's my advice.
oh and welcome to the board.
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Calum's wearing his "evil cursing pirate that doesn't like Windows users" hat. (http://smile.gif) (http://tongue.gif)
[ September 22, 2002: Message edited by: TheQuirk ]
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I will like to think everyone for there comments to my post. some I did not like some i liked.
Can someone point me to a tutorial or something on how to dual boot Windows (safely) so that I test out www.lycoris.com. (http://www.lycoris.com.) That would help out alot!
Thanks,
William M Gary
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never mind. I find a Tutorial. If you was planning on helping me Thanks anyways.
William M Gary
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We "was" planning on helping you. We told you to get rid of Windows. That's the best help anyone could possibly get.
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DAMN! I need some help. I want to keep Windows install, and install the other OS how do I do that?. that tutorial only shows you how to remove windows compeply
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"I need some help" does not cut it.
i don't give a damn whether you like what i have to say, void main is right. you will get all the help you want here if you behave in civil fashion.
It just so happens that it's easy as pish to set up a dual boot system, if it had the mandrake CDs, a blind crippled illitirate mouse with a brain defect could do it with one claw tied behind its back!
I could post some links but since you demanded help rather than asking for it i will assume you would rather find stuff out for yourself, well good luck!
and congratulations on deciding to try linux by the way, it will be frustrating however stick at it and it will all be worthwhile, i promise.
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DEMANDING!?
I have been asking not Demanding. Now if you are really apart of this Anti-Microsoft commutiney then you would do anything you could to help me out in trying to go with Linux.
in response to that other person. I will not remove Windows untill I feel safe using Linux.
[ September 22, 2002: Message edited by: William ]
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whatever. Just like you're not foaming at the mouth right now?
"if i was a real blah blah blah" how about you stop telling me who i am and what to be, hmm?
you said "i need help", now while i am inclined to agree with you, i am sorry but that is plain rude. "can anybody tell me ... please" is asking, and it is polite. Simple.
Also, i think most people would not uninstall windows until they were used to linux. in several cases you might want to keep windows on there permenantly for one or two things. sadly this is sometimes necessary, brought on by the current Microsoft dependent computer world.
Anyway, any time you want to stop frothing and ask a question, we'll be more than happy to help i am sure.
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Well, do you run on one hard drive or 2+ hard drives? If you run on one, you might have problems repartitioning without the fat32(Windows) partition screwing up; but I haven't had to deal with that. If you want to try linux, but don't feel comfortable screwing with your boot record yet, get linux on a cd. I think Suse offers an burnable iso that you boot from (hope you're not on a 56k connection). I know you want to use Lycoris, but I can't find any run-on-cd iso for their distribution. If you do feel comfortable with linux, then you can go get Mandrake 8.1 or 8.2 power pack, and you'll be set for a very long time. I think it's the best one for people moving off of windows. Oh, and are the bookmarks ones that came with IE, if they are, then Windows could be forcing that shit onto you. You might be SOL with that.
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SpeeDFreaK Thank you for your helping me, without having to kiss your ass and say please. Most of the time on the internet people say can someone help me, or I need help not no please help me.
Also Callum or whatever you spell your fuckin name (nickname,screen name, user name) you mind Windows a little bit better by moving off of it. Also callum I suggest that you never EVER try to get a job as a sales person. And also NEVER try to help a newbie again, becuase you obvissly have a HUGE ego.
once again thanks SpeeDFreaK for your help.
Thanks,
William M Gary
p.s. just incase you wanted to know or someone else might need help here is the url for there .iso:w www.lycoris.com/download. (http://www.lycoris.com/download.)
I'm also puting off Linux untill I get like another computer to test it on or something. If I get another computer this old thing will be what I test it on, and yeah I'm on an old dailup connection
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You can love M$ and want to try Linux all at the same time, that's how I got started.
Check out this thread: http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000057 (http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000057)
There is a lot of info in there. Hope that helps!
If you want to play with Linux in a safer environment, download the virtual PC demo at http://preview.connectix.com/trial/ (http://preview.connectix.com/trial/)
It's like having a computer to play with, without screwing up your computer. It's a good deal slower than the actual OS, but if you just want to try it out, it's a good thing. If you want/need help with VPC, feel free to Private Message me.
Hope all of that helped... (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by William:
SpeeDFreaK Thank you for your helping me, without having to kiss your ass and say please. Most of the time on the internet people say can someone help me, or I need help not no please help me.
Also Callum or whatever you spell your fuckin name (nickname,screen name, user name) you mind Windows a little bit better by moving off of it. Also callum I suggest that you never EVER try to get a job as a sales person. And also NEVER try to help a newbie again, becuase you obvissly have a HUGE ego.
once again thanks SpeeDFreaK for your help.
Thanks,
William M Gary
p.s. just incase you wanted to know or someone else might need help here is the url for there .iso:w www.lycoris.com/download. (http://www.lycoris.com/download.)
I'm also puting off Linux untill I get like another computer to test it on or something. If I get another computer this old thing will be what I test it on, and yeah I'm on an old dailup connection
get fucked.
your comments are out of order and your ego is obviously well need of a good overhaul if you seriously believe what you are saying.
You think i should never help someone again just because i didn't want to help your arrogant ass?
i don't give a fuck what you think of my ego quite frankly, and i don't give a fuck if you kiss my ass or not, just don't come over all "holier than thou" about it, because windoids really get wearing very quickly.
Until you made all those nasty comments about me i had nothing against you personally, as i said. Your arrogant attitude really doesn't bode very well for you though.
As i said before, if you are going to be a cunt then you can fuck off, if not then welcome to the board. And i think that's quite charitable since after you going on about how big my ego is.
PS. I think it should be quite obvious how to spell "Calum", you pathetic moron, what's your fucking point?
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Originally posted by William:
Also Callum or whatever you spell your fuckin name (nickname,screen name, user name) you mind Windows a little bit better by moving off of it. Also callum I suggest that you never EVER try to get a job as a sales person. And also NEVER try to help a newbie again, becuase you obvissly have a HUGE ego.
Hey, don't you talk to your superiors that way!!!! GRRRRRRR!!!!!
Nah, chill the fuck out, you came to an anti-MS site spewing Pro-M$ BS. What did you expect?
Not to mention the fact that Calum can flame the shit out of anyone who even tries to get near him (http://tongue.gif)
Have fun using Linux!
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i sure can! ;)
go here (http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000001&p=8) and look at the posts by Dai and a humanoid, to see how a civil person conducts themselves amongst intelligent individuals.
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Dear William,
As you are a member of the Microsoft using population, I respectfully request that you use a spellchecker. This device, handles the troublesome task of spelling words in a proper manner. Doing this simple matter allows you the freedom to blither on, yet, at the same time will prevent awkward misspellings that will take away from your credibility.
On another matter, this little issue of trying out Linux. I do not recommend it. Frankly, your attempts to communicate with our respected members can only make me draw one conclusion, you young lad, are a dipshit. Furthermore, in your ineptness at selecting a proper linux distro, which happened to be, a product by the name "Lindows", only strengthens my claim. If you perhaps, take a second, and glance down at my "SIG", you will notice a few basic rules. I hope I don't need to spell it out for you.
Please, go on your way, no need to return,and "Tah!".
Lord Poster,
RudeCat7
Member of the Public
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Originally posted by William:
DAMN! I need some help. I want to keep Windows install, and install the other OS how do I do that?. that tutorial only shows you how to remove windows compeply
Use somthing like fips or partion magic, slim down your Windows partion. And then in the free partion space install Linux. Its very simple, get it and then we will help you install. Okays.
We do want to help everyone get aay from M$. So we will help you and in a year you might be able too be M$ Free.
What do you use your Computer for?
And try Mr Project, it comes with Red-Hat Linux 7.3 its much better.
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Hey you guys, relax and chill out a bit :D . William, you might have noticed that this is a M$ hate site as implied by its title and I don't think it could get more clear and straightforward than that ;) . Hence, everyone in here has a pathological hate for Microsoft, eventhough some of us have to use Windows. For example, Calum dual boots and uses Windows to connect to the Internet because his Winmodem, and mine as well, does not work under Linux.
However, this doesn't necessarily mean that we are willing to answer any Windows related question. On the contrary, we can provide you with the alternatives should you want to try them out. And there are alternatives out there believe me. So, there's really no need to become agressive. As for the Windows related questions you can try the windowsbbs forums and get an answer there ;)
Calum, I know you are one of the oldest members in these forums, counting almost 2.6 thousand replies. You're also a very good an responsible moderator, but sometimes I think that you cross the line (I'm sorry, no insult intended) meaning that you shouldn't fall to the level of people like William etc. You're very intelligent and very fluent in English, unlike other English blokes ;) , to start swearing and using bad language. Just ignore them.
Again, no insult intended Calum. As I said I respect you and all and I really find your posts, when not accompanied by hatred statements, very very interesting (http://smile.gif) .
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Originally posted by Pantso:
Hey you guys, relax and chill out a bit :D . William, you might have noticed that this is a M$ hate site as implied by its title and I don't think it could get more clear and straightforward than that ;) . Hence, everyone in here has a pathological hate for Microsoft, eventhough some of us have to use Windows. For example, Calum dual boots and uses Windows to connect to the Internet because his Winmodem, and mine as well, does not work under Linux.
However, this doesn't necessarily mean that we are willing to answer any Windows related question. On the contrary, we can provide you with the alternatives should you want to try them out. And there are alternatives out there believe me. So, there's really no need to become agressive. As for the Windows related questions you can try the windowsbbs forums and get an answer there ;)
well said indeed.
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Calum, I know you are one of the oldest members in these forums, counting almost 2.6 thousand replies. You're also a very good an responsible moderator, but sometimes I think that you cross the line
well how long i have been here and how many posts i have doesn't make me any better than anybody else, i'd like to point out, i'm no bully! re: crossing the line, i think all's fair on a site with 'fuck' in its name. quote:
(I'm sorry, no insult intended) meaning that you shouldn't fall to the level of people like William etc. You're very intelligent and very fluent in English, unlike other English blokes
I'm scottish. ;) quote:
;) , to start swearing and using bad language. Just ignore them.
i know, but they get wearing and sometimes i just can't help myself. Again, i wouldn't normally use 'bad' language, but when the site has 'fuck' in the title, well...
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Again, no insult intended Calum. As I said I respect you and all and I really find your posts, when not accompanied by hatred statements, very very interesting (http://smile.gif) .
Well of course i take no offence, your comments are well founded, and i would also like to point out that i do not hate anybody, ergo those 'hate' statements are actually 'irritation/windup' statements. If people choose to be offended, then that's their lookout. i have nothing personal against willllllliam (or however you spell him), but if he chooses to continue being a dick, then i will continue to ridicule and insult his statements. Nothing personal, again what do you expect on a site with 'fuck' in the name?
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Very true Calum and forgive me about the English part. I forgot you were Scottish ;) . I like Scottish people and I remember meeting some when I was in England studying. There's really no comparison between Englishmen and Scottish people. Night and day really... You english fellows out there, don't get insulted but Scottish people are really much much nicer than most Englishmen.. Sorry (http://smile.gif)
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:D of course it depends on the individual et cetera, but apart from all that i agree with you 100% ;)
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Originally posted by Pantso:
Very true Calum and forgive me about the English part. I forgot you were Scottish ;) . I like Scottish people and I remember meeting some when I was in England studying. There's really no comparison between Englishmen and Scottish people. Night and day really... You english fellows out there, don't get insulted but Scottish people are really much much nicer than most Englishmen.. Sorry (http://smile.gif)
Watch it punk or you'll get a present from up north! (http://smile.gif)
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Hey, I believe I'm entitled to my opinion (http://smile.gif) . Anyway it all depends on the person but generally speaking that's what I think ;)
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Originally posted by Tux:
Watch it punk or you'll get a present from up north! (http://smile.gif)
interestingly, the area that the english refer to as 'up north' is actually 'down south' to EVERYBODY in scotland. It's as if the english like to deny even the existence of scotland by defining the north as being outside of scotland...
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If you are using Windows convert to the new JBrowse... this can be DLed at www.joshbart.com/jbrowse (http://www.joshbart.com/jbrowse) . This is compatible with ALL forms of HTML and XML and Java/Javascript. It is definetely the best browser I have ever used. As for the BSD/UNIX/Linux people, then there are compatibility problems... but JBrowse will hopefully be out for Linux and Mac January. I am not a part of the JBrowse team (and I never would be, I am a dedicated FreeBSD user), but a friend of mine personally knows this "Josh Bart" (he's Canadian or something) and I constantly hear of devolopment for JBrowse
Get JBrowse (http://www.joshbart.com/jbrowse)
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Originally posted by BSD/UNIX Fanatic:
If you are using Windows convert to the new JBrowse...
Reaaaaalyyyyy..
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William, if that is your real name.
Good on you for trying linux and all but really this is a site of people who HATE microsoft with a passion. coming on here and saying "yadda yadda yadda, I LOVE MICROSOFT" is never going to get you anywhere on this site.
LindowsOS may seem like a great idea in theory but in reality it isnt. they provide compatibility with windows apps, which may seem totally awesome, but there a programs like VMware which provide much better compatibility and you can run it on a real OS like Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake, and if you need to you can run it on windows.
Also although your on a site with the word fuck in its name can you please try and be a bit more polite and less demanding or whatever. Ask for help instead of expecting it. More often than not someone will help you and more often than not that someone is void main, onya void main.
In conclusion stay right the fuck away from LindowsOS, please...
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Hi all!
As you can probably tell by my email address we share some things in common. I am realatively new to computers, but know when you have an OS which keeps crashing etc, there is something wrong.
In keeping with the topic I have an interesting problem with IE. I have replaced it with Netscape and although I have uninstalled it I am getting error messages that IE has cased an error etc., etc,. etc. Now I realize that this site isn't here for the sole purpose of answering random questions etc., but any help in solving this would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Ok, Netscrape is spyware essentially..
Kill it.
if you wnat something like that get Opera.
as far as IE goes, download and install IE6.. then see if it goes away.
also.. have a nose about the site, and see if you can find any details about security updates or patches for it.
that should, theoretically, solve the problem... However, we are talking about Windows here..
The only surefire way of fixing that problem is to format. (http://smile.gif)
Don't try that one first though. (http://smile.gif)
The Auditor
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Originally posted by The Auditor:
as far as IE goes, download and install IE6.. then see if it goes away.
not the best advice. download mozilla and see if it 'goes away'. My favourite browser is Galeon, but i think there may be some slight problems with it on windows... quote:
However, we are talking about Windows here..
The only surefire way of fixing that problem is to format. (http://smile.gif)
Don't try that one first though. (http://smile.gif)
No do try that first, i urge you.
Honestly. Get mozilla, opera and phoenix, and don't bother with any netscape or internet exploder 'upgrades'.
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LOL.. im afraid i have to agree..
However.. the only way to get rid of those IE errors is to reinstall the bugger.
but hten use Opera.. or something of that nature..
To my knowledge there isn't a version of Galleon that works in Winblows..
If there was i would be using it..
Personally i think my favourites are Opera and Konqueror (linux)
The Auditor
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Originally posted by Calum:
interestingly, the area that the english refer to as 'up north' is actually 'down south' to EVERYBODY in scotland. It's as if the english like to deny even the existence of scotland by defining the north as being outside of scotland...
It was a lighthearted joke, I didn't but too much thought into it.
And I like scottish people too, also anything further south than Manchester is IMHO way too far south. (http://smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Tux:
It was a lighthearted joke, I didn't but too much thought into it.
And I like scottish people too, also anything further south than Manchester is IMHO way too far south. (http://smile.gif)
i agree! took a while for you to bite, hmm? ;)
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I'm from Harrow..
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I'm too far south now.. LOL
im in the "great Southern Land"
(it's not that great, believe me)
The Auditor
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im just confused.. Im Enlgish and Scottish, does that mean i can't spel like william?
For the sake of arguement, and the fun derived from it, who seriously cares if William likes windows?
but on a serious note.. if you wanna try windows.. use Mandrake 9 on a "im a dumbarse" install, the install type that a monkey with aixelsyd could install.
Once you get to know linux, and you have formatted your Windows partition, and found a DVD codec for Linux etc etc, then you can reinstall.. and set it all up yourself in the "I am a Linux User" mode.
Thankyou.
The Auditor
**Footnote**
Calum... can i have Williams IP? please??
*grins evilly and starts opening terminals and writing more programs.*
LOL
I hate windows.
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True MES advice:
Hey NightShift, and welcome to the MES forums. IE does have some inherent flaws, some, but not all can be fixed by keeping you MS software up to date, all the patches and latest verions and stuff. However, those same updates that fix bugs tend to bring more, and they may even have licence agreements that ask you to let Microsoft have even more control of your computer. Opera and Mozilla are 2 very powerful and fast web browsers that have fewer flaws than IE and do perform better. There are also no restrictive licence agreements. I highly suggest that you try one. However, IE is highly integrated in windows, and may still cause problems. There is a total solution. And that is scrapping windows. There are suitable alternatives. Linux is one, and its free. You lose nothing by trying it. Maybe that was not what you were planning to do, but most people who have tried linux out have had a very good experience. After trying it out, I have stopped using windows. There is nothing stopping you. No more crashes, spying, or restrictive agreements.
V
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Well said..
a very nice summary of the posts to date. (http://smile.gif)
Also.. not only one thing.. somet hing for linux may take a bit of getting used to.. or perhaps you will need to find some software to make certain things work, but things are very nice over here on Linux..
if your not a heavy gamer you shouldn't have a problem.
Linux is worth a try.. even if you do go back.. Though i doubt you will.
The Auditor
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Hey, thanks for the responses!
Just a few quick replies:
The Auditor:
I switched to Netscape after reading the article by The Riddler (Really Hidden Files!) How is Netscape spyware? Does it behave the same as IE in the background? I'll d/l and then uninstall IE6, perhaps this will solve the error messages (it just makes me feel so....soiled, that's all). Edit: After re-reading your post I think you meant for me to install IE but just don't use it. Being somewhat paranoid about almost anything MS puts out; do I need to worry what IE will be doing in the background while I am onlie with another browswer? Thoughts on this?
Re the format: Yeah, that's low on the list right now.
calum:
I'll try Mozilla after I've gotten rid of IE. Interestingly enough, there is a folder named Mozilla in Windows\Application Data. That is where my browser cache from Netscape ends up.
Re the format: Try it first? Ya think? (http://smile.gif)
Doctor
Thanks for the informative post. After going over the info in the others I'm begining to think that IE has to remain a part of Windows even if I'm not using it. Re scrapping Windows: I've been concidering that almost since day one. I bought my system used and it has Windows ME as the OS (feel sorry for me), I have concidered Linux; but still need to educate myself more about installing, configuring etc. This site and the forum seem like a good place to start. Lotsa info here!
Any input on Macintosh?
Thanks again for the input.
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Triple Post!
Sorry! :eek:
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshift ]
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re: your mozilla data, yes newer versions of netscape are based on mozilla. They are made by AOL, and the extra development and marketing is funded by including some spyware code, as far as i hear. i think this is similar to the realplayer thing where people's browsing habits get sent back. You might be able to sort this out via your firewall but i'm not sure. anyway, mozilla doesn't have any of that crap.
as for getting rid of IE, it is a waste of time trying to install a newer version and then uninstall it. Microsoft does not make an uninstaller for IE, and they do not officially admit that it can be uninstalled. here is a third party application which i used to use on my WinME set up to remove IE (http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html), and it works very well. The system is a bit unstable after you have uninstalled IE *HOWEVER* i have never been able to say for certain that it is ANY more unstable than it was beforehand anyway.
honestly the solution is to get linux now. the only way you'll get knowledge is from direct experience. You can get Mandrake Linux 9.0 Standard Edition for US$30 (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0/presentation/index.php3) with 30 days of support and a 35 page quick installation guide included, and i promise it is so easy to install that a cuddly toy could do it. Why waste time with windows?
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: [calum@localhost]$ ]
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Triple Post!
Not only embarrassing, but proof of Newbiehood!
(see, everything is useful in some way)
:rolleyes:
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshift ]
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshift ]
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Originally posted by [calum@localhost]$:
......the extra development and marketing is funded by including some spyware code, as far as i hear. i think this is similar to the realplayer thing where people's browsing habits get sent back. You might be able to sort this out via your firewall but i'm not sure. anyway, mozilla doesn't have any of that crap.
I'm using LavaSoft Ad-Aware to check for spyware on my system. It says I'm clean, but who really knows...
as for getting rid of IE, it is a waste of time trying to install a newer version and then uninstall it. Microsoft does not make an uninstaller for IE, and they do not officially admit that it can be uninstalled. here is a third party application which i used to use on my WinME set up to remove IE (http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html), and it works very well. The system is a bit unstable after you have uninstalled IE *HOWEVER* i have never been able to say for certain that it is ANY more unstable than it was beforehand anyway.
Think I'll just leave IE where it is, don't think I could stand it if this OS was anymore unstable
honestly the solution is to get linux now. the only way you'll get knowledge is from direct experience. You can get Mandrake Linux 9.0 Standard Edition for US$30 (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0/presentation/index.php3) with 30 days of support and a 35 page quick installation guide included, and i promise it is so easy to install that a cuddly toy could do it. Why waste time with windows?
Great! I still have my old Teddy Bear. (knew i was keeping him for something) (http://smile.gif)
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: [calum@localhost]$ ]
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshift because he didn't get it right the first four times!]
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: Nightshift ]
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Just get a new explorer.. like Opera.
as far as IE goes, you have a fair few options.
you can reinstall and leave it alone.. hide it even (http://smile.gif)
You could uninstall it, microsoft does actually include files for deleting Internet Explorer, you just need to be able to find it. And being microsoft, they arent gonna tell ya. (http://smile.gif)
(add remove programs helps ;) (May vary depending on OS, but i know my 2k install had that option, though i did edit it.))
anyhow.
Hope all this helped you out some.
The Auditor
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Originally posted by [calum@localhost]$:
re: your mozilla data, yes newer versions of netscape are based on mozilla. They are made by AOL, and the extra development and marketing is funded by including some spyware code, as far as i hear. i think this is similar to the realplayer thing where people's browsing habits get sent back. You might be able to sort this out via your firewall but i'm not sure. anyway, mozilla doesn't have any of that crap.
as for getting rid of IE, it is a waste of time trying to install a newer version and then uninstall it. Microsoft does not make an uninstaller for IE, and they do not officially admit that it can be uninstalled. here is a third party application which i used to use on my WinME set up to remove IE (http://www.litepc.com/ieradicator.html), and it works very well. The system is a bit unstable after you have uninstalled IE *HOWEVER* i have never been able to say for certain that it is ANY more unstable than it was beforehand anyway.
honestly the solution is to get linux now. the only way you'll get knowledge is from direct experience. You can get Mandrake Linux 9.0 Standard Edition for US$30 (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/9.0/presentation/index.php3) with 30 days of support and a 35 page quick installation guide included, and i promise it is so easy to install that a cuddly toy could do it. Why waste time with windows?
[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: [calum@localhost]$ ]
As for browsers, I'm of the mind that Mozilla makes Netscape obsolete. Netscape is based on Mozilla, but has a couple of things a couple of things added, and mostly for marketing. Also Netscape is not going to be based on the latest version of mozilla. Most Linuxes quite a bit more difficult to install than Windows, but not Mandrake. Installing Linux Mandrake 9.0 should take less time then installing windows, and theres really nothing complicated at all about it. Linux tends to take a short while to learn the ins and outs of, but once one gets the hang of it, it really is better.
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Anyone can install Mandrake 9.
Windows takes longer, works less, and isn't really MICROsoft..
I'm more inclined to call it Macrosoft.
heh.
Basically, IE is trash.. use Opera, mozilla..
Damn it, if all else fails.. Lynx! LOL
The Auditor
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Links is good also, supports tables and frames properly but on an 80x25 console it can look kinda fucked.
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Nightshift... I noticed a question about Mac. So, here comes a Mac user to fill you in.
Mac OS X is UNIX, and can do all the cool stuff Linux can. You can install XFree86, run KDE, GNOME, the Gimp, et cetera. Mac OS X comes with all the dev tools in the retail boxed set. It includes a terminal with full, unrestricted access to the underlying UNIX.
Mac OS X also has a beautiful UI, more advanced than anything MS, or even any of the Linux desktops offer (even though they're improving day by day). Mac OS X has major app support from Adobe, Corel, Mic>COUGH<ro>HACK<soft, Alias/Wavefront, et al.
You get the good points of Linux, Mac OS/NeXTStep, and Apple hardware. And if you get a new one now, you can still run Mac OS 9, which really does still kick a lot of ass. Oh, yeah, you can run Linux, too!