Stop Microsoft
Miscellaneous => Applications => Topic started by: rbsjrx on 7 July 2004, 00:39
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I want to find URLs of sites which can show me how to disable, hide from, or spoof Windows system administrators monitoring of everything I do. The IT Nazi at a current client won't even let anyone install any other browser than MSIE. Although he has download access to the Mozilla 1.x site blocked, he didn't have Firefox blocked. I DL'ed it, installed it, and got a nastygram within 5 minutes. I know he can monitor the network traffic. Presumably, he has tools to scan the registry of computers on his system looking for changes as well. For all I know, he could have keystroke recorders as well.
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PM me about it (http://smile.gif) I don't want spammers using the website that I use for that.
I've got the same problem at my school, so I know what you're going through. It's horrible :(
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User-Agent in the HTTP header perhaps?
ever think of that?
shouldn't this go in app's?
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Originally posted by Bob Stout:
I want to find URLs of sites which can show me how to disable, hide from, or spoof Windows system administrators monitoring of everything I do. The IT Nazi at a current client won't even let anyone install any other browser than MSIE. Although he has download access to the Mozilla 1.x site blocked, he didn't have Firefox blocked. I DL'ed it, installed it, and got a nastygram within 5 minutes. I know he can monitor the network traffic. Presumably, he has tools to scan the registry of computers on his system looking for changes as well. For all I know, he could have keystroke recorders as well.
Your solution is a Linux Live CD.
http://www.knoppix.org/ (http://www.knoppix.org/)
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Originally posted by insomnia:
Your solution is a Linux Live CD.
http://www.knoppix.org/ (http://www.knoppix.org/)
Maybe he wants to GET SOME WORK DONE as well...
find some cgi-proxy site and browse through there, my school district has an overly tight websense server.
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You were able to install Firefox...is your account admin-level?
Start > Run > services.msc
Kill the bastard that's logging you. :D
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Originally posted by Sauron is ALWAY on-topic:
Maybe he wants to GET SOME WORK DONE as well...
Indeed, that's why Knoppix will work for him.
(i doubt you will ever understand that)
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That's pretty high-brow humor right there.
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Originally posted by Sauron is ALWAY on-topic:
User-Agent in the HTTP header perhaps?
ever think of that?
shouldn't this go in app's?
It has nothing to do with HTTP, this is a Windows networking issue.
Apparently, the Microsuck Powers That Be thought this should go in app's since that's where it was moved, however it <b>is</b> an OS issue since the OS is where the sysadmin is allowed to snoop. App's don't control remote access to a user's registry, which is what I want to learn how to prevent.
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Originally posted by insomnia:
Your solution is a Linux Live CD.
http://www.knoppix.org/ (http://www.knoppix.org/)
This is completely unhelpful. In the real world, many of us have to use Windows on a Windows network. It's called a job. My server runs Debian and I'm quite happy with it, but my clients use Windows so I have to establish a coexistence in order to interoperate with them.
Worse, my current work involves some major security issues and the IT department is run by a typically dim Microsoft Nazi shill. I need to learn how to fly below his radar when he has alerts set up to determine if any machine on his network is being used in an unapproved way.
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Why do they give you administrator rights on your machine then?
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i've gotten firefox to install without admin rights before.
and they do offer it in a convenient no-install download anyway.
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http://www.cupofnoodles.com/anon (http://www.cupofnoodles.com/anon)
http://www.illhostit.com/nph-proxy.cgi (http://www.illhostit.com/nph-proxy.cgi)
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This is completely unhelpful. In the real world, many of us have to use Windows on a Windows network. It's called a job. My server runs Debian and I'm quite happy with it, but my clients use Windows so I have to establish a coexistence in order to interoperate with them.
Why is it that in "business", nobody understands what coexistance and compatibility really is?
I run Mac OS X, Linux, and Windows XP all in the same house. Moving files is SEAMLESS. I don't care what your clients are running, you can access files and folders on Windows clients from Linux, and vice-versa. It just takes some *time and thought*... and then it works better.
Oh... and you need to get his box infected with an ActiveX virus, then slap down a whitepaper that tells how insecure IE is because of it, and that other browsers don't have these problems.
Then tell his bosses what happened.
That's the key. Circumvent your boss and tell their bosses.
Nobody likes whistleblowers... except for management.
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Maybe the windoid sysadmin is unaware that both CERT and the Department of Homeland Security say to stop using MSIE.
Ask him about it.
I like the previously posted idea about changing the user agent.
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>>Ask him about it.
good luck getting him to change it. most of these bastards will never do it. they setup these confort zones for themselves so they have to do the least amount of work and the rest of us can go fuck ourselves and die for all they care.
i fucking hate these MS loving fuckers who wont even look another way. I say screw their asses with a chain saw.
sorry, i know this doesnt help your cause, but i had a runin with one of them yesterday and i am still pissed about it. so i know what you are going through. and i wish you luck.
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Look, I hate M$ ass much as the next guy. (Although, if the world were run on Mac's and LInuz boxes I'd probably be installing drywall right now...)
But as a real-life sysadmin, I really get perturbed at this concept businesses and schools and other institutions that own computer hardware and provide it to users for educational / work related purposes are Nazi's if they insist that you keep you hacker mitts out of their systems.
Admittedly, most don't, but when I oversee the design a computer workstation image, I make sure that every nook and cranny of that image is tested. If there are problems, they get fixed. My users don't experience blue screens and phantom lock ups. Before we invested in the technology that sends a notice when new applications are installed, my help desk calls for software problems were 99% related to some jackass that wanted to install WordPerfect 6.1 or burned X-Agent gaming onto a CD and tried to install it. The users that had lockups were ALWAYS related to some downloaded or imported application.
HELLO, PEOPLE! The computer you are using doesn't belong to you, it belongs to your employer/school and is provided as a tool, not a playground or vir0tual break room. The reason they don't want you installing shit on their machines is that there is a CO$T associated with every bit of network traffic, every byte of disk space, and every cycle of processing power. Not the least cost of which is the salary YOU are getting paid to download Virtual Warrior or the Sexy Playmates screensaver.
If you want a computer at school or work you can do whatever you want with, buy a laptop. If your network isn't accessible to laptops, get a cellular modem. You don't just have an unlimited right to do whatever you want with every computer you touch just because you know how to.
Please, if you loaned a friend a car and he brought it back to you having put a low-rider package on it with hydraulic shocks and neon running lights, would you be pleased? If your neighbor came over to use your computer and fdisk-ed you hard drive installed Windows 95 'cause he didn't know how to use Linux, how happy would you be?
Unfortunately, installing one lousy application can really screw things up on a system. That's the function of a poorly design OS; you never know what application won't work correctly once you've installed the Yahoo! toolbar or allowed that PayWare application to install BonzaiBuddy.
My images ALWAYS include TWO browsers (IE and another, usually Firefox or Mozilla), two Media Players (WMP and Real, maybe WINAMP), and EVERY application you might conceivably need to do your job.
If you need an application to get the job done, to finish a paper, or complete the days work, your system should be designed to allow for the testing and integration of that product. Rather that trying to figure out a way to fly 'under the radar', DO YOUR FUCKING JOB. If you need additional software, go through the proper channels to get it.
And remember, even if YOU can be trusted, if YOU are sure that the application YOU want will be OK, or you don't need them to support you at all, what about that moron in the cube next to yours? If you were supposed to be able to install whatever you want, you'd be in the IT Department wouldn't you?
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If I had the time, I'd lay into this with a sledgehammer, but I have neither the time nor requisite energy to respond to all the inherent flaws you just provided. Now I don't mean to start a flamewar in here, besides you're the one that seems to think that the Internet is something less-than-free (considering the amount of malware available for Windows versus the amount available for, say, Solaris), but maybe I missed something - there's a breakdown in corporate communication somewhere when the sysadmin is solely responsible to his boss, and his boss - failing to listen to the concerns voiced by the employees - makes sweeping decisions that ultimately please nobody. Please stop reading BOfH, it's gone straight to your head; not everyone that works in IT is a genius (as you may have experienced), and not everyone that works elsewhere is as complete an idiot as you believe them to be. When a company fails to be an employee-based democracy, and becomes a dictatorship, that is the first step to its downfall, and you might be better off seeking a job at Sun or Ubisoft.