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Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 14 June 2002, 02:25
I've decided to give it a try so i downloaded the 3 iso images for Red Hat linux. burned them to a cd put  disc 1 in the cd drive re-booted and nothing happens..i switched my boot sequence to boot the cd rom first..i have a Dell 4100 PIII 933 with 256 mb ram. if i look at the contents of the first cd,in windows, it looks like a dos program. in dos it says vahal~1 exe ..if i type that in under dos it says program to big to fit into memory..whats happening did i burn it wrong or what??? I followed the instructions on the red hat page for burning iso images.for cd creator. i also downloade mandrake and the same thing happens..nothing...Help me if you can i'm feeling down..thanks  zubknarf
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: choasforages on 14 June 2002, 03:02
ok it looks like you burned the cd's right its just your computer that is not co-operating, if your using redhat 7.3 this should work great. ok take the dos boot disk and boot the computer up with it and stick the first redhat cd in it. then go to the dosutils folder, and type in
autoboot.bat
that should work
have fun
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: slave on 14 June 2002, 03:25
Windows XP practically installs itself, and you can either run the setup program from Windows or you can boot from the CD.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 14 June 2002, 03:55
I've been using windows for at least 5 years and thought i'd try something else just for kicks. If there is a better operating system out there i would like to try it, I've heard alot of good things about Linux so i though i'd give it a whirl...Variety is the spice of life...Think!! zubknarf...anyways i tried to download the boot disk and it says it's to big to put on a floppy disk !!! what's with that???
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: choasforages on 14 June 2002, 04:08
making the boot disk involves using rawwrite, i don't know how to use it but there should be a .txt file or just plain read me.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: voidmain on 14 June 2002, 05:37
Did you read the installation document?  Which distro are you downloading the boot disk for?
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: Master of Reality on 14 June 2002, 06:22
There are good REABMEs on the CD. Look for the program 'rawwrite.exe' on the disk and it will have instructions on creating a linux boot disk.

I dont know how well WinXP installs, but i know that i have been trying for about a month to get win98 or winNT to install on a computer.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: LorKorub on 14 June 2002, 16:14
More Bullshit:

"Windows XP practically installs itself, and you can either run the setup program from Windows or you can boot from the CD"

Well, considering the fact that most CD-ROM medias are boot-compatible from most modern BIOS (thanks to Micro$hit and their influence over the neo-neaderthol market that is comprised of shitheads such as yourself) it shouldn't be too hard to boot a Linux distro, either from the burned ISO (if you did it correctly) of if you actually shelled out the $40 or so to buy the distro from a third party.  If you did the latter, at least you are paying good money from some people that deserve it, unlike the shitheads from the Seattle area that are dying quicker than their cruddy music scene.

XPissant...fuck off and die.

And just for a fun paraphrase (I love Kindergarten):

"SuSE practically runs intself.  Just throw in the CD into one of your drives, hit Ctrl+Alt+Delete (like you have become acoustomed to), and it practically installs itself."
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 14 June 2002, 16:15
i,m trying to install Red Hat 7.3 . I'm starting to think i didn't burn the disc right. If i boot the computer into dos with the me start up disc and look at the cd it says 1 file o dir's the file name is valhal~1 exe. cannot open that cause it's to large to fit into memory. I using cd creator platinum . the instructions seem to say you first make a cd image then burn it from the image is that right or is it already an image?? the files i downloaded are named valhalla-i386-disc1.iso dics2.iso and disc3.iso.. After i make an image of them they are cd creator image files..If i look at the cd in windows it looks like a dos file and reads the same name as the file i downloaded valhalla-386-disc1.iso....maybe i should just go out and buy the cd pack at office max or something!! thanks zubknarf
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: choasforages on 14 June 2002, 16:21
yeah hes right, most computers are cdrom-boot compatible, if you burn the cd as a cd image and not burn the iso a file on the disk i used to do that all the time, if i doesn't boot then something is wrong with your hardware/bois config
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: voidmain on 14 June 2002, 23:18
You have to look at your burning software documentation for the appropriate way to write ISO images for  your software.  You did nothing more than copy the ISO image files to the CD.  The ISO images contain the iso9660 filesystem so they have to be burned directly to CD not on top of an existing iso9660 filesystem.  Almost all burning software has this capability.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: slave on 15 June 2002, 08:18
LorKorub, we have to get that sand out of your vagina; it's making you cranky!

PS click here (http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/) for free (as in beer) tux porn (which you love dearly)

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[ June 15, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: LorKorub on 15 June 2002, 21:41
XPissant,

Dude, just fucking go away.  You contribute absolutely nothing here except being the board's whipping boy.  XP is fucking garbage, so you can take your linx and shove it up you Redmond-gang-banged ass.

Back to what this board is for: To the guy who asked about buring ISO images to CDs, there is a good help file here (http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/neroburning.html) at linuxiso.org that explains the whole process.  I just burned Debian last night with Nero and it works fine
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: jtpenrod on 15 June 2002, 12:36
I don't download Linux ISOs since I have dial-up and it would simply take a dog's age (several, in fact). You can get Linux CDs fromLinux Central (http://linuxcentral.com). None are over $9.95 + S&H, and some are as low as $2.95. Another good source is Edmunds Enterprises (http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com); their CDs are even less. I think the most expensive ones they offer are $2.00 + S&H, and most go for $0.99. Both have fast deliveries, so you'll have your CDs in two to three days. Edmunds also offers Linux soft on CD. That's where I got KDE 3.0 for Slack. It's not a lot to pay, and you get high quality CDs.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: Calum on 15 June 2002, 18:14
and for those people in Europe, try http://www.yourlinux.co.uk/ (http://www.yourlinux.co.uk/) which sells in pounds and euros for much the same money.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 20 June 2002, 04:37
ok i gave up on the iso image files and just ordered the 6 cd set. got it all installed ok then it goes to start red hat and prompts me to enter login name???i never entered one in set up so i don't know what it is..then it ask's for pass word.. the only time i entered a password was a root password..tried that and it failed any sugestions would be appreciated ..thanks zubknarf
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: Master of Reality on 20 June 2002, 05:10
quote:
Originally posted by zubknarf:
ok i gave up on the iso image files and just ordered the 6 cd set. got it all installed ok then it goes to start red hat and prompts me to enter login name???i never entered one in set up so i don't know what it is..then it ask's for pass word.. the only time i entered a password was a root password..tried that and it failed any sugestions would be appreciated ..thanks zubknarf

'login name' would mean your name not your password. So put root as your 'login name' unless you created a user when installing (which you should have). After you get in under root, you should create a user to login as, because it isnt very 'smart' to login as root all the time.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 20 June 2002, 06:22
Thanks alot i got in..now i have to figure out how to make a login name..I'm really looking foward to playing around with linux..hope i don't get to frustrated with it. I'm not real computer smart. But i'll give it a try..by the way what's on the other 3 disc's ??software??? 1 say's documentation>>Thanks again zubknarf
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: phar1944 on 20 June 2002, 06:58
The cd with the documentation is the one you should start with.  Read as much as you can.  Go to your favorite bookstore and find a book on Linux (I like "Learn Linux in 24 hours") and read that.  Much of your confusion will clear up very quickly and you will find Linux a pleasure to use.  However, it will take a bit of time and effort to get it down completely. The learning time is a good part of the fun.

Good luck        (http://smile.gif)
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: zubknarf on 20 June 2002, 17:00
if i didn't set up a login name during setup..wich i don't think i did how do i know what it is?? i logged on as root but it says i should use my login name..i tried everything i could think of normally i would use zubknarf as a login name but that didn't work. is the login case sensitive?? thanks for all your help . zubknarf
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: mormop on 21 June 2002, 01:55
I'm starting to like XP user, it's only when you come across such blinkered ignorance that you realise how excellent it is to be out of that MS crap.

Anyway, here's how my install went when I tried XP.

Machine by the way is A-Bit KT-7A, 1200 Athlon, 768MB SDRAM, Yam-SCSI CD-RW, 60 + 20GB Maxtors Ge-Force 2 MX400, SB128 etc.
Basically,  I'm saying it's not a massively out of date box.

Insert disk, boot, get to point where screen goes dark blue / black with progress bar and that's it! Yes XP did something no other version of Windows has managed for me i.e. crashing before it's even made it onto the hard disk.

I wasted another two evenings trying before impaling the disk on a No.2 Philips. The resulting feeling of euphoria justified the cost of XP all by itself so it didn't perish in vain.

I'm saving the licence for a day when I pick up a dose of dissentry of cholera for that extra satisfying wipe.

I'm back with Win98SE which sees the light of day once a month or two and Mandrake 8.2 which gets daily use. My personal office machine is the same config as XP, when I have come across it, proved itself to be a bit on the crap side.
Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: Master of Reality on 21 June 2002, 02:01
quote:
Originally posted by zubknarf:
if i didn't set up a login name during setup..wich i don't think i did how do i know what it is?? i logged on as root but it says i should use my login name..i tried everything i could think of normally i would use zubknarf as a login name but that didn't work. is the login case sensitive?? thanks for all your help . zubknarf

when logged in as root type 'useradd', it is the program to add users. try 'man useradd' for the manual page for it.
bassically all you do is:
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or the more secure way
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Title: Can't install Linux
Post by: Master of Reality on 21 June 2002, 02:03
quote:
Originally posted by mormop:
I'm starting to like XP user, it's only when you come across such blinkered ignorance that you realise how excellent it is to be out of that MS crap.

Anyway, here's how my install went when I tried XP.

Machine by the way is A-Bit KT-7A, 1200 Athlon, 768MB SDRAM, Yam-SCSI CD-RW, 60 + 20GB Maxtors Ge-Force 2 MX400, SB128 etc.
Basically,  I'm saying it's not a massively out of date box.

Insert disk, boot, get to point where screen goes dark blue / black with progress bar and that's it! Yes XP did something no other version of Windows has managed for me i.e. crashing before it's even made it onto the hard disk.

I wasted another two evenings trying before impaling the disk on a No.2 Philips. The resulting feeling of euphoria justified the cost of XP all by itself so it didn't perish in vain.

I'm saving the licence for a day when I pick up a dose of dissentry of cholera for that extra satisfying wipe.

I'm back with Win98SE which sees the light of day once a month or two and Mandrake 8.2 which gets daily use. My personal office machine is the same config as XP, when I have come across it, proved itself to be a bit on the crap side.


what does this have to do with this thread? I have had windows98 crash oodles of times. Even before it  began to use scandisk to check the HD.