Stop Microsoft
All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: M51DPS on 5 September 2003, 06:42
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article (http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/6692622.htm)
All of the sudden, I'm glad I'm not in Philadelphia. Just imagine school being called off for BSOD days . . .
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All of the sudden, I'm glad I'm not in Philadelphia. Just imagine school being called off for BSOD days . . .
Is that a good or a bad thing? :D
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Insane...computerize everything whether it needs computerization or not. Forget teachers, technology is the key to education.
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I'm all for using technology to facilitate learning, but this sounds like technology for technology's sake.
Like Scotty said: The more you overthink the plubming, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Insane...computerize everything whether it needs computerization or not. Forget teachers, technology is the key to education.
%$^#
I'm all for using technology to facilitate learning, but this sounds like technology for technology's sake.
Like Scotty said: The more you overthink the plubming, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
My HS has at least 2 PC's in every classroom, 1 for the teacher, and 1 student machine. today I had to go around and manually shut them all down in order to patch them, because of SoBig. the only boxen that were on by the time I was done were our Netware server and the non-networked Video edit machine (3 of which are Mac's (2 dual G4 towers, 1 G3 tower(too bad the teacher is pure evil)))
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I used macs till grade 11 then our school got PC's
I graduated from a windows infected school, I feel so durty
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Well looking back at the current education with current M$ networks. Already current networks are SO vulnrable to attack that its not even funny.
If everthing IS computerised by this company. Then what will happen when the grades keep changing by different levels of breakins? How much will the learning prossess be inturupted by constant crashes? what about the latest virii and/or worms which will caust the tax payer millions in damage and damage to the childrens future? even average maintenence, which will be continuos and always ongoing?
How can anyone trust a company that knows it CANNOT create a secure, quality product!
And the throw in DRM forced upgrades and constant lockins with a sprincle of politics on top!
Its a multi million dollar death trap bound to turn out ANOTHER idiot president! :(
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Joe Wilcox, an analyst for Jupiter Research, pointed out that such projects give Microsoft a chance to promote its systems, build brand loyalty among young students, and use the school as a laboratory for future development of educational products.
Ah.
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As I've said before, corporations DO NOT BELONG IN SCHOOLS.
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You could always read the rest of the article
"Philadelphia won't be required to buy Microsoft products; technology will be selected through an open bidding process. The software giant won't be involved in teaching classes or managing the school once it opens.
The company also isn't planning any major donations of equipment or cash, officials said. The school district will pick up the entire $46 million cost of the school.
Instead of free hardware and software, Microsoft's main contribution to the project will be expertise, said the company's executive director of learning technologies, Wanda Miles."
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Microsoft's main contribution to the project will be expertise
What will their expert advice reccomend pray tell?
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Originally posted by Faust:
What will their expert advice reccomend pray tell?
I think it's pretty certain they won't recommend Linux.
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Originally posted by [root@localhost /]$:
My HS has at least 2 PC's in every classroom...
Atleast 5 computers in each class in my school, all of wich run Windows 2000 or XPussy. Along with 4 computer labs. I'm glad I save often, seeing as I almost lost an entire assignment when explorer.exe crashed and the Task Manager wouldn't allow me to open explorer.exe again.
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Trust the windows "OS" to save your exam stuff....
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
I think it's pretty certain they won't recommend Linux.
Their expert advice would be 'how to steel lunch money from defensless kids AND get away with it.' :D
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Linux is great for schools. If you have Windows on schools, kids are going to install all kinds of stupid shit on them. Oh sure, Windows has built in install protection, but how about just downloading a ZIP file and extracting it? There was no installation, and you can play Quake II (talking from experience).
When you do Linux on schools, no-one will be able to even run anything that isn't installed. You won't be able to extract anything. If you just need Mozilla, VideoLAN and OpenOffice.org on it, than that's all you get. No fancy stuff or distractions.
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Originally posted by Refalm:
Linux is great for schools. If you have Windows on schools, kids are going to install all kinds of stupid shit on them. Oh sure, Windows has built in install protection, but how about just downloading a ZIP file and extracting it? There was no installation, and you can play Quake II (talking from experience).
When you do Linux on schools, no-one will be able to even run anything that isn't installed. You won't be able to extract anything. If you just need Mozilla, VideoLAN and OpenOffice.org on it, than that's all you get. No fancy stuff or distractions.
Not to mention the absolute stability of Linux!
No more: Miss, miss I got wanna those blue screen thing'ies!
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That's absolutely disgusting. Philadelphia's public schools are as unstable, out-of-wack and under-funded as ever (trust me on this one), and THIS is what they're pouring money into. It's not even the MS aspect that gets to me the most, really. More / better teachers, smaller classes, upgraded infrastructure? No, of course not, what was I thinking, sheesh... I could not agree with M. O'brien more on this one.
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Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Insane...computerize everything whether it needs computerization or not. Forget teachers, technology is the key to education.
%$^#
:mad:
I haven't posted here in a long time, but one of the last ones i made mentioned our school "upgrading" to XP. It's insane. Explorer barely runs and crashes often when it does, and on top of that our "network administrator" has tried to disable the command prompt for some reason, so most people can't use that instead of explorer. Yeah, it's that bad. (He hasn't succeeded, but that's a different story...). And then permissions and security settings keep messing up so we can barely manage our work on some of them as it is (Explorer wouldn't let me make a new folder, but MS Paint would. He found that very interesting). There's a ton more but it would be a waste of time and space to post it.
Oh, but one last thing: Refalm hit the nail on the head on this one. the students at my school are constantly downloading crap, finding ways around the security settings (hehe.. for example, now, once you find command.com [find, hell, it's not even hidden], you can do anything. I'm not sure what to do with that right now), playing games (that has become some sort of blasphemy), and so on. Linux would make it a breeze to fix all that, and yet they keep struggling with windows, and getting mad when we figure out ways around their blockades. :rolleyes:
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If they ever do *properly* manage to disable the command prompt just run your commands from a .bat file. It runs through all the commands and then *after* they've gone through it pops up the "command prompt has been disabled please see your admin" message. :rolleyes:
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Ah, yes, that's the message it was giving us for a little while there. Heheh, didn't think of using batch files. Thanks, that could come in handy. :D
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Microsoft and Intel are pumping my highschool full of tablet PC's.
No thanks. I don't their $3000 note taking machines.
"But teacher, a virus ate my homework"
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heahah... using M$ in HS... A great excuse to say how your homework got pwn3d. Many a times used in my HS and.. got away with it..
I can't believe they're going to spend so much money on M$. M$ that can't even provide proper network security, stable OS. WORKING APPLICATIONS !@#@$#% COMPATIBLE SOFTWARE... k i'm getting worked up...