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Miscellaneous => The Lounge => Topic started by: Calum on 28 October 2002, 22:37

Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Calum on 28 October 2002, 22:37
I was just at the forums at yourlinux.co.uk and you know what, they are a company who supposedly sells cheap linux CDs via mail order, and they appear to be pocketting the money and not bothering to send the CDs! I just wanted to spread the word not to use them. A good alternative to yourlinux.co.uk is LinuxEmporium.co.uk (http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/cheap.html) who are reliable, inexpensive and fast, from my experience.

Also, over on that forum have a LOT of people asking questions, and nobody (more or less) answering the questions. I thought maybe it would be good if i could get the posters to come to the new www.newtolinux.org.uk (http://www.newtolinux.org.uk) forums instead, since they seem really good, or to these forums in some cases. SO...

I thought i would make people here aware anyway. Maybe some of you could ocassionally stick a head in at yourlinux.co.uk and answer people's questions by telling them to come here (or go to newtolinux.org.uk) instead.

I think it is okay to do this because
1) yourlinux.co.uk are ripping people off, which makes me angry and
2) yourlinux.co.uk do not appear to even read their own forums, so they will not care if you try to poach their posters.
3) the posters deserve some help and encouragement i think!

Just my thoughts...
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Bazoukas on 28 October 2002, 23:30
Calum i am actually thinking of Starting a Service like that. An honest service though. Making ISO CDs and selling them over the www, for 5 dollars or something.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: voidmain on 28 October 2002, 23:47
Here's a new one I just ran across:

http://www.linuxiso.net/ (http://www.linuxiso.net/)

Do you know if there are any issues with this site? I see they have all the latest stuff there. RedHat 8 install CDs (3) for $9.

The only reason I went to this site was because there appears to be a DNS issue with http://www.linuxiso.org/ (http://www.linuxiso.org/) at the moment so I tried a couple other domain names. Then of course there is http://www.linuxiso.com/ (http://www.linuxiso.com/) which appears to be a German site. I don't know anything about either site.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 29 October 2002, 00:26
I do have that setup and ready.

When my website goes live (soon, very soon) I will burn anything contained on the site, and that includes Linux CDs.

I dunno about shipping internationally though. It is quite expensive.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 29 October 2002, 01:54
I don't get how they can ship worldwide for $3.50.

And if it's too good to be true, it usually is.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 29 October 2002, 04:02
OK, here is my shopping page:

http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm (http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm)

Are my prices reasonable?   (http://smile.gif)  
EDIT: I know, there are only 2 things there. I need to know if there is a market first...

[ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]

Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Calum on 29 October 2002, 14:07
that's good, but you're going to need to do five or six different distros and some packages too.
like doing an openoffice CD with versions of openoffice on it compiled for several different systems, and of course the source code, that sort of thing, or having a 'linux from scratch' CD, where you provide all the bits needed for a linux from scratch setup.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Master of Reality on 29 October 2002, 17:35
quote:
Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
OK, here is my shopping page:

http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm (http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm)

Are my prices reasonable?    (http://smile.gif)  
EDIT: I know, there are only 2 things there. I need to know if there is a market first...

[ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]


do you actually get many hits to your website?
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Chooco on 29 October 2002, 19:30
if you want tech help go to http://linuxquestions.org (http://linuxquestions.org)

it's a great community  (http://smile.gif)
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Calum on 29 October 2002, 21:44
i know that, but what i'm asking is that you go to yourlinux.co.uk every now and then and say that to the people who are asking questions there and getting no answers!  (http://smile.gif)
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: preacher on 29 October 2002, 22:28
quote:
Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
OK, here is my shopping page:

http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm (http://www.akgames.net:8000/Shop.htm)

Are my prices reasonable?    (http://smile.gif)  
EDIT: I know, there are only 2 things there. I need to know if there is a market first...

[ October 28, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]




Your prices are decent, but whats with the port 8000 thing? You running your server off of one of those ISP's that doesnt allow webservers?
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Chooco on 30 October 2002, 21:39
having a high port like that is so that Apache does not have to be run as root, it's a security thing.

for port 80 to be opened, Apache must be run by root.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: voidmain on 30 October 2002, 21:56
Only the initial Apache process must be executed with root privelages. The children that Apache spawns are usually executed under user "apache" or "nobody". Those children are the processes that outside connections actually access.

So if apache were to be exploited the exploit will be executed under the "apache" userID which *should* be configured with minimal privelages. Usually nothing should be writable by that ID except for quarantined working directories.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Kintaro on 30 October 2002, 14:26
quote:
Originally posted by bazoukas:
Calum i am actually thinking of Starting a Service like that. An honest service though. Making ISO CDs and selling them over the www, for 5 dollars or something.


Im going to when I get ADSL. As soon as i Get ADSL.
But not pocket the money of cource, probably donate it to a poor dying child like John Tate.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Kintaro on 30 October 2002, 14:32
Isnt that illegal, you live in england calum, take it out with Consumer Protection Agency or whetever you have over there.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 30 October 2002, 16:38
quote:
Originally posted by The Master of Reality / B0B:

do you actually get many hits to your website?



"Many"

Usually around 100-400 a month

And if you look at the site again, I pulled RH, because if I sell the burned ISOs, I can't call it Red Hat.  :mad:

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]

Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 30 October 2002, 16:47
quote:
Originally posted by ThePreacher:
Your prices are decent, but whats with the port 8000 thing? You running your server off of one of those ISP's that doesnt allow webservers?


My ISP did allow webservers. All of the newer service contracts don't, but I signed an older one, and intend on doing so. They used to change my IP to stop me, but I threatened to take them to court. They promptly stopped  (http://tongue.gif)  

The 8000 thing is a combination of (possibly), OS, server software, my cable modems, my servers or the configuration of all of these. Port 80 just won't work. I can ping it and see it, but I can't use it.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: voidmain on 30 October 2002, 23:39
m0r has the same problem. It's obvious that your providers are blocking inbound port 80.
Title: YourLinux.co.uk Blows Llamas.
Post by: Master of Reality on 31 October 2002, 00:37
quote:
Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:


"Many"

Usually around 100-400 a month

And if you look at the site again, I pulled RH, because if I sell the burned ISOs, I can't call it Red Hat.   :mad:  

[ October 30, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]


not bad, The Bob Hub (http://www.bobhub.tk) is getting around 30 each week... and for some very strange and unknown reason The Abyss (http://www.the-abyss.tk) is getting around 7-10 a week.