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All Things Microsoft => Microsoft as a Company => Topic started by: ChakanTGM on 8 April 2003, 22:34

Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: ChakanTGM on 8 April 2003, 22:34: quote:
"MOSCOW (Reuters) -- Russia has become the first country to get its hands on one of the world's most closely guarded corporate secrets -- Microsoft Corp's blueprint for its computer programmes, the software giant said on Monday. . ."

"Signing on to Microsoft's Government Security Programme will allow Russia, and any other signatory, to weave its own technology into Microsoft's Windows platform and adapt Windows to its needs and test its ability to fend off hackers.

With this move, Microsoft aims to strengthen its position in government markets, where it faces growing competitive pressure from free open-source software."

"To woo governments, Microsoft has said it will make its source code mainly available to them over the Internet and for free, provided they do not disclose it."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/01/21/russia.microsoft.reut/ (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/01/21/russia.microsoft.reut/)

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/01/21/russia.microsoft.reut/ (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/01/21/russia.microsoft.reut/)

Does anyone else find this extremely disturbing? Yeah, like the Russians are going to use the Windows source code in order to "fend off hackers".

They are more then likely going to do a little hacking of thier own. All .gov addresses running IIS beware . . .

BTW, wouldn't it be great to know where the source code is made availible on the net? That in itself is funny.

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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: SAJChurchey on 9 April 2003, 00:53: WTF!! First they give the source code to the Chinese, and now they give it to a former communist country. Talk about a breach of nat'l security. I think the government might want to get suspicious of M$ "un-American" activities.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: Pissed_Macman on 9 April 2003, 16:28: First they use the corporate corruption in America to cheat their way to the top, then they turn their backs on us??? The least they could do is pull a few favors for a country that helped them get corrupt.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: devlkore on 9 April 2003, 22:10: It doesn't matter who they give it to, it will get leaked and that's what we all want, so stop whining and just be glad that we'll all end up downloading Windows source code.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: mobrien_12 on 9 April 2003, 22:18: It's another microsoft innovation.

Of course, OSS did it first, and better.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: Calum on 9 April 2003, 22:28: rubbish. microsoft's "shared" source means you get a printout (or more likely CDROM) of about 40% of their system code, which is totally worthless to anybody in my opinion, also the licence you get it under forbids you to a) change it in any way for any purpose and b) ever let anybody else see it. this is a similar licence to the ones that came with the original AT&T versions of unix (except you got to read 100% of the code and change the code, only for implementation at your own site which is a lot better now i think about it) which prompted RMS to get so angry that he started work on a totally Free and Open Source alternative operating system.

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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: mobrien_12 on 10 April 2003, 00:09: I was being sarcastic.

You have a good point about the At&T source code. However, the thing that got RMS pissed off and started the FSF was actually a printer driver, not At&T unix. He wanted to make a small modification to the driver but the manufacturer wouldn't give him the source (at all).

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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: X123 on 10 April 2003, 00:25: Microsoft would probably persuade america to go to war with any countries who released the code to the public.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: devlkore on 10 April 2003, 02:41: Even if Microsoft release a slightly different version to each country so they can tell which country leaked it, they won't necessarily know who's responsible, ie which individual person. Also, if the code is worthless, then these countries will say "Bitch, give me the full working source and go make me some pie!"

It WILL get leaked and then people can start trully giving the finger to Microsoft.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: KernelPanic on 10 April 2003, 03:03: 'Russia' hiss hiss!
Commie B*stards.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: rtgwbmsr on 10 April 2003, 03:17: quote:
Originally posted by Tux:
'Russia' hiss hiss!
Commie B*stards.

12 years ago maybe...they are not communist anymore...
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: jtpenrod on 10 April 2003, 11:20: quote:
Signing on to Microsoft's Government Security Programme will allow Russia, and any other signatory, to weave its own technology into Microsoft's Windows platform and adapt Windows to its needs and test its ability to fend off hackers.

With this move, Microsoft aims to strengthen its position in government markets, where it faces growing competitive pressure from free open-source software.
How about that! Those lucky dogs! But what about the rest of us? How come I don't get the opportunity to weave my own technology into Winderz and adapt it to my needs? :confused:
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With this move, Microsoft aims to strengthen its position in government markets, where it faces growing competitive pressure from free open-source software.
In that case, Bill, why not go the whole distance and put Winderz under the GPL? (http://tongue.gif)
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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: Lord C on 10 April 2003, 19:41: h0h0h0. /me waits for leakage tbh
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: KernelPanic on 10 April 2003, 23:32: quote:
Originally posted by The Muffin Man:

12 years ago maybe...they are not communist anymore...

It was joke. Go figure.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: TheQuirk on 11 April 2003, 02:00: quote:
Originally posted by ChakanTGM:

Does anyone else find this extremely disturbing? Yeah, like the Russians are going to use the Windows source code in order to "fend off hackers".

They are more then likely going to do a little hacking of thier own. All .gov addresses running IIS beware . . .

BTW, wouldn't it be great to know where the source code is made availible on the net? That in itself is funny.

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I hope a bus hits you today.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: jasonlane on 11 April 2003, 05:57: Hmmm,

I'm suprised that given the climate of current American Imperialist paranoia that they let the "reds" have it. (http://tongue.gif)
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: jtpenrod on 11 April 2003, 14:08: quote:
I'm suprised that given the climate of current American Imperialist paranoia that they let the "reds" have it.
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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: Calum on 11 April 2003, 15:33: quote:
Originally posted by Tux:
'Russia' hiss hiss!
Commie B*stards.

quote:
Originally posted by The Muffin Man:

12 years ago maybe...they are not communist anymore...

there's a lot of times though when the two abstract concepts of "reality" and "what the USA thinks" are completely different and totally irreconcilable.

this is one of those times.

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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: raptor on 20 April 2003, 05:31: i know microsoft is looney, but i am sure they know how to handle their own source code!
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: new2linux55 on 25 April 2003, 00:43: Hopeully Russia will strip the code apart and make there own version of windows. :D

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Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: Fett101 on 25 April 2003, 02:36: In Soviet Russia, source code compiles you.
Title: Microsoft gives Russia secret code
Post by: theangelofdeath69 on 28 April 2003, 13:03: Can I become a signatory?