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Operating Systems => Linux and UNIX => Topic started by: hnugz on 20 September 2005, 20:41

Title: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: hnugz on 20 September 2005, 20:41: I just installed the new knoppix 4 dvd. I was assuming my Radeon 9800 pro was not setup for 3d gaming, so I did some searching and found http://www.alexandern.com/3D_ATI_RADEON_on_Linux.html. I followed the instructions, downloaded the rpm, did the alien command to convert it, and ran the dpkg -i from the console. It seemed to work ok. Then I ran the fglrxconfig command and went through that setup. That also seemed to work fine. So how do I know if this is setup properly or not to run my games?

I found another page http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/15375.html and ran the glxinfo | grep render which gave me:
direct rendering: No
GLX_ATI_render_texture
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

So I guess this means it isn't working properly. I tried 3Ddiag but the command isn't found. Is there something else I should be doing? Thanks.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: MarathoN on 20 September 2005, 22:08: I had hell getting ATI drivers installed back when I had my Radeon 9200LE, that's the reason I binned it. ;)
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: worker201 on 20 September 2005, 22:53: My Radeon 9500 Pro works just fine in Fedora Core 4, with no proprietary drivers installed.

Of course I don't do any 3d gaming, so I couldn't tell you if any of the useless bells and whistles of this graphics card are working or not.:D
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: WMD on 20 September 2005, 23:19: Run "glxgears" and note the framerate.

Try going into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the dri and glx modules are getting loaded.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Pathos on 21 September 2005, 00:39: I got 242 on my fx5200, would that prove that hw acceleration is all on?
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: piratePenguin on 21 September 2005, 01:29: Quote from: Pathos
I got 242 on my fx5200, would that prove that hw acceleration is all on?
No chance. With hardware acceleration, you should be getting a few thousand.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: skyman8081 on 21 September 2005, 01:33: I don't think you fully realise the suckiness of a fx 5200.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Pathos on 21 September 2005, 03:31: Quote from: skyman8081
I don't think you fully realise the suckiness of a fx 5200.

lol. a 9800 is over four times as powerful.

Fx5200:
1325 frames in 5.0 seconds = 265.000 FPS
1549 frames in 5.0 seconds = 309.800 FPS
1400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 280.000 FPS
1540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 308.000 FPS
1400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 280.000 FPS
1540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 308.000 FPS
1400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 280.000 FPS
1540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 308.000 FPS
1400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 280.000 FPS
1540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 308.000 FPS

s3 trio 2mg (no 3d acceleration):
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS
840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.000 FPS
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS
840 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.000 FPS
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 140.000 FPS

lmao.

I get 20 when the window is maximised so I think I have some drivers to install. I get 30 on CS.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: WMD on 21 September 2005, 07:44: Quote from: skyman8081
I don't think you fully realise the suckiness of a fx 5200.

I've seen 900fps on an MX 440...how does that compare to FX5200?

My example:
Quote
bash-2.05b$ glxinfo | grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5700/AGP/SSE2
bash-2.05b$ glxgears
13628 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2725.600 FPS
16164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3232.800 FPS
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Commander on 21 September 2005, 20:01: ahh the pain of owning a ati. all i had to do to install my nvidia card was to check 2 extra checkboxes and say yes to a ok/cancel dialog box.
and look what it can do :D
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cii@linux:~> glxinfo | grep render direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6600 GT/AGP/SSE2 GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, cii@linux:~> glxgears 50588 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10117.600 FPS 54761 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10952.200 FPS 56227 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11245.400 FPS 56236 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11247.200 FPS 56254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11250.800 FPS 56155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11231.000 FPS 56250 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11250.000 FPS 56272 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11254.400 FPS cii@linux:~>
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: mobrien_12 on 21 September 2005, 23:47: Quote from: hnugz
glxinfo | grep render which gave me:
direct rendering: No
GLX_ATI_render_texture
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

So I guess this means it isn't working properly.

You guess correcty. No need to run GLXgears. "Direct rendering:no" means no hardware acceleration. "Mesa GLX Indirect" means OpenGL is being software rendered.

Wish I could help, but I've stayed away from ATI cards because of the bad rep they have for drivers.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: worker201 on 22 September 2005, 00:38: ATI has driver issues, nVidia has driver issues. What's left?
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: hnugz on 22 September 2005, 05:36: Quote from: mobrien_12
You guess correcty. No need to run GLXgears. "Direct rendering:no" means no hardware acceleration. "Mesa GLX Indirect" means OpenGL is being software rendered.

Wish I could help, but I've stayed away from ATI cards because of the bad rep they have for drivers.

::sigh::, I'm getting around 90fps or so with glxgears. guess i'll have to do some more fiddling.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: mobrien_12 on 22 September 2005, 07:41: Quote from: worker201
ATI has driver issues, nVidia has driver issues. What's left?

I havn't had problems with nVidia's proprietary drivers. Many years ago, they used to crash my box repeatedly, but that all turned around in one release when they became very stable and still had excellent performance.

But as for what's left... there are several cards and chipsets out there that have opengl acceleration via MESA built into stock XF86/X.org distributions with standard linux kernels.... no additional downloads.

http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/

Chipsets include many produced by ATI (including Radeons up to 9200), Matrox, almost all of Intel's chipsets, and 3dFX boards (Voodoo 3, 4, 5).

As for the performance, it would be good to get some feedback from others here. I've only tried to run my Voodoo 5 board with games under MESA-based DRI drivers. It worked, and had acceleration, but the performance was dissapointing compared to windows... That may not be the best comparison though, because the V5 in Linux could use only one of the two VSA1000 chips (essentially it ran as a V4). Also, MESA drivers for 3dFX cards worked by translating OpenGL into Glide, which probably also caused a performance hit. Stock 3dFX drivers for windows did the same thing, but the WickedGL 3rd party OpenGL ICD was available, and yielded a serious performance boost in Windows.

If you will permit me to opine momentarily, I really miss 3dFX. :(
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: mobrien_12 on 22 September 2005, 07:45: Quote from: hnugz
::sigh::, I'm getting around 90fps or so with glxgears. guess i'll have to do some more fiddling.

Make sure you have the ATI-proprietary kernel module loaded before you start the X Windowing System. Also double check your X configuration file... make sure the package made the appropriate changes.
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Lead Head on 27 October 2005, 02:47: i just installed the drivers on FC4 and before i installed the drivers i got 300FPS in glxgears now i get 143FPS
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Refalm on 27 October 2005, 15:48: Quote from: Lead Head
i just installed the drivers on FC4 and before i installed the drivers i got 300FPS in glxgears now i get 143FPS

Did you test how well UT 2004 worked before and after?
Title: Re: Are my graphics card drivers working?
Post by: Lead Head on 27 October 2005, 20:39: i finially got that lib issued solves but the problem is, before i installed the drivers the UT2004 Demo splash screen appeard for a few seconds and then it dissapeared, same after installing the drivers