diald, eh? righto, got it.
strangely, make exited with 'Error: 1' whatever that is, when i tried to install from source. Anybody know where a list of make's errors can be found? i couldn't see it on the make man page and i have got this error more than once.
I will check out diald today, thanks void main,
as for kppp, as far as i can see it does not exit upon connection, but sits around and waits until you physically exit it, which will close the connection (or you can set it to close itself when the connection is closed).
As for the " &" in the script, i kept getting errors when i put a space in there, which is why i put brackets round the one with a space in it, which seemed to work. is this right or am i missing something?
as for gnome, i think i found a page telling me how to do the window manager thing, so that will be tried by me today too.
thanks guys!