Author Topic: You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. (Read 1048 times)

Calum · « **on:** 7 May 2003, 18:45 »

look here:

LinuxQuestions.org thread - Y use Linux instead of windows ??

xyle_one · « **Reply #1 on:** 7 May 2003, 19:34 »

thats a long thread. i didnt read the whole thing, just that last post. it was very convincing, and i havent looked at it that way. linux can be installed on anything, windows can't. now which one supports more hardware?

nice.

HibbeeBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** 7 May 2003, 22:02 »

You certainly put him/her in their place.

At first I had problems getting my Dell hardware working with SuSe 8.0. But I stuck to it, researched the problems, asked around and low and behold, the problem is not Linux, it's because Dell ripped me off with hardware (winmodem and soundcard) that only works with Window$. It was very interesting to find out about modems in particular and why they only work with Window$. The consumer is being ripped off right and left or left and right, I forget which. So, when you see the Pentium and Designed for Window$ sticker, that's a warning right there folks. I will not be making that mistake again.

[ May 07, 2003: Message edited by: HibbeeBoy ]

xyle_one · « **Reply #3 on:** 7 May 2003, 22:11 »

seems like something that could be used for open open.

Pantso · « **Reply #4 on:** 8 May 2003, 00:33 »

That is certainly one long thread. Sorry, but I couldn't read all of it. I read Calum's post though which was excellent and right to the point.

I can't add anything more really.

HPC GUY · « **Reply #5 on:** 8 May 2003, 01:18 »

Good Fuckin Job calcum!!! *quotes simpsons* "that outta hold those little sob's"

mobrien_12 · « **Reply #6 on:** 8 May 2003, 07:13 »

Plus, Linux STILL supports ISA cards. MS stopped doing that with XP.

I think that gives linux a HUGE edge in peripheral support.

preacher · « **Reply #7 on:** 8 May 2003, 20:09 »

Here is my funny little story about linux hardware support. My friend Sam and I both bought brand new sound blaster sound cards about 6 months ago and assumed we would have no problem getting them to work with Mandrake 9.0. Anyway after a lot of problems, neither of us had sound. Well I got pissed and took the card back, and bought the cheapest, oldest sound card they had at the store ($5). It was so old that it had drivers for MS-Dos 5 and Windows 3.1 included. Anyway I installed it and it works flawlessly. It seems sometimes the older the hardware is, the more likely it will work well with linux.

Calum · « **Reply #8 on:** 8 May 2003, 21:29 »

quote:
Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Plus, Linux STILL supports ISA cards. MS stopped doing that with XP.

I think that gives linux a HUGE edge in peripheral support.

i didn't know that! and i think it's pretty pathetic they stopped supporting ISA cards, most people still have ISA slots, even if they have no actual ISA cards, but if they run XP, they have no choice if they ever use those ISA slots. and woe betide those people who do have an ISA card installed. And it's not like they have a problem implementing ISA support in windows, the work has already been done, they just need to include it. there's no logical reason to stop supporting this standard.

Calum · « **Reply #9 on:** 8 May 2003, 21:46 »

the thread there at linuxquestions is actually the sort of thing i would expect to see on this site, it's quite interesting to dip into, and it has actually been on the go for a couple of years. i only started following the thread that would not die about maybe a year ago, when it was maybe 20 pages long, always good to see what even people on a linux site will say to defend windows! :eek:

flap · « **Reply #10 on:** 8 May 2003, 22:25 »

quote:
Originally posted by Calum: hopelessly outnumbered:

i didn't know that! and i think it's pretty pathetic they stopped supporting ISA cards, most people still have ISA slots, even if they have no actual ISA cards, but if they run XP, they have no choice if they ever use those ISA slots. and woe betide those people who do have an ISA card installed. And it's not like they have a problem implementing ISA support in windows, the work has already been done, they just need to include it. there's no logical reason to stop supporting this standard.

I think any machine old enough to have ISA slots probably won't run XP.

psyjax · « **Reply #11 on:** 9 May 2003, 00:06 »

heheheheheh

put another coin in the rant-o-matic

hehehehehe

mobrien_12 · « **Reply #12 on:** 9 May 2003, 05:40 »

quote:
Originally posted by flap:

I think any machine old enough to have ISA slots probably won't run XP.

Pentium III systems should run XP according to MS specs.

Fett101 · « **Reply #13 on:** 9 May 2003, 10:27 »

Sisters PC has ISA slots and XP. Badda bing, badda boom.

Faust · « **Reply #14 on:** 9 May 2003, 12:37 »

quote:
My friend Sam and I both bought brand new sound blaster sound cards about 6 months ago and assumed we would have no problem getting them to work with Mandrake 9.0.

Those wouldnt be creative soundcards would they? I had some trouble in Red Hat 8 with those. Kept detecting my onboard sound as "primary" and not setting up the Soundblaster Live properly. Disabling onboard sound at the BIOS and then redetecting sound cards works, and if that doesnt have you tried rmmod [currentsoundcarddriver], modprobe emu10k1? Sometimes they wont shove in the emu10k1 drivers even if they detect they card. :rolleyes:

edit : Which also raises the point that Linux has native support for the Free creative emu10k1 module wheras Windows requires the use of a driver CD. Speaking of which how much Windows hardware requires a driver CD/floppy? Far more than Linux i'm willing to guess. (especially for network cards.

)

[ May 09, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]

« previous next » Print Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 6 Go Down Author Topic: You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. (Read 1048 times) Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « on: 7 May 2003, 18:45 » look here: LinuxQuestions.org thread - Y use Linux instead of windows ?? Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism xyle_one VIP Posts: 2,213 Kudos: 135 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #1 on: 7 May 2003, 19:34 » thats a long thread. i didnt read the whole thing, just that last post. it was very convincing, and i havent looked at it that way. linux can be installed on anything, windows can't. now which one supports more hardware? nice. Logged HibbeeBoy Member Posts: 246 Kudos: 0 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #2 on: 7 May 2003, 22:02 » You certainly put him/her in their place. At first I had problems getting my Dell hardware working with SuSe 8.0. But I stuck to it, researched the problems, asked around and low and behold, the problem is not Linux, it's because Dell ripped me off with hardware (winmodem and soundcard) that only works with Window$. It was very interesting to find out about modems in particular and why they only work with Window$. The consumer is being ripped off right and left or left and right, I forget which. So, when you see the Pentium and Designed for Window$ sticker, that's a warning right there folks. I will not be making that mistake again. [ May 07, 2003: Message edited by: HibbeeBoy ] Logged Democracy, it's like three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. xyle_one VIP Posts: 2,213 Kudos: 135 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #3 on: 7 May 2003, 22:11 » seems like something that could be used for open open. Logged Pantso Member Posts: 1,249 Kudos: 55 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #4 on: 8 May 2003, 00:33 » That is certainly one long thread. Sorry, but I couldn't read all of it. I read Calum's post though which was excellent and right to the point. I can't add anything more really. Logged Support-FreeSoftware.org HPC GUY Member Posts: 275 Kudos: 101 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #5 on: 8 May 2003, 01:18 » Good Fuckin Job calcum!!! quotes simpsons "that outta hold those little sob's" Logged "if i destroyed you, i would only be perpetuating your legacy" - Me mobrien_12 VIP Posts: 2,138 Kudos: 711 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #6 on: 8 May 2003, 07:13 » Plus, Linux STILL supports ISA cards. MS stopped doing that with XP. I think that gives linux a HUGE edge in peripheral support. Logged In brightest day, in darkest night, no evil shall escape my sight.... preacher VIP Posts: 858 Kudos: 107 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #7 on: 8 May 2003, 20:09 » Here is my funny little story about linux hardware support. My friend Sam and I both bought brand new sound blaster sound cards about 6 months ago and assumed we would have no problem getting them to work with Mandrake 9.0. Anyway after a lot of problems, neither of us had sound. Well I got pissed and took the card back, and bought the cheapest, oldest sound card they had at the store ($5). It was so old that it had drivers for MS-Dos 5 and Windows 3.1 included. Anyway I installed it and it works flawlessly. It seems sometimes the older the hardware is, the more likely it will work well with linux. Logged Kansas City Hustle http://kansascity.cjb.net Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #8 on: 8 May 2003, 21:29 » quote: Originally posted by M. O'Brien: Plus, Linux STILL supports ISA cards. MS stopped doing that with XP. I think that gives linux a HUGE edge in peripheral support. i didn't know that! and i think it's pretty pathetic they stopped supporting ISA cards, most people still have ISA slots, even if they have no actual ISA cards, but if they run XP, they have no choice if they ever use those ISA slots. and woe betide those people who do have an ISA card installed. And it's not like they have a problem implementing ISA support in windows, the work has already been done, they just need to include it. there's no logical reason to stop supporting this standard. Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism Calum Global Moderator Posts: 7,812 Kudos: 1000 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #9 on: 8 May 2003, 21:46 » the thread there at linuxquestions is actually the sort of thing i would expect to see on this site, it's quite interesting to dip into, and it has actually been on the go for a couple of years. i only started following the thread that would not die about maybe a year ago, when it was maybe 20 pages long, always good to see what even people on a linux site will say to defend windows! :eek: Logged visit these websites and make yourself happy forever: It's my music! \| My music on MySpace \| Integrational Polytheism flap Member Posts: 1,268 Kudos: 137 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #10 on: 8 May 2003, 22:25 » quote: Originally posted by Calum: hopelessly outnumbered: i didn't know that! and i think it's pretty pathetic they stopped supporting ISA cards, most people still have ISA slots, even if they have no actual ISA cards, but if they run XP, they have no choice if they ever use those ISA slots. and woe betide those people who do have an ISA card installed. And it's not like they have a problem implementing ISA support in windows, the work has already been done, they just need to include it. there's no logical reason to stop supporting this standard. I think any machine old enough to have ISA slots probably won't run XP. Logged "While envisaging the destruction of imperialism, it is necessary to identify its head, which is none other than the United States of America." - Ernesto Che Guevara http://counterpunch.org http://globalresearch.ca psyjax VIP Posts: 1,871 Kudos: 55 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #11 on: 9 May 2003, 00:06 » heheheheheh put another coin in the rant-o-matic hehehehehe Logged Psyjax! I RULEZZZZ!!! HAR HAR HAR mobrien_12 VIP Posts: 2,138 Kudos: 711 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #12 on: 9 May 2003, 05:40 » quote: Originally posted by flap: I think any machine old enough to have ISA slots probably won't run XP. Pentium III systems should run XP according to MS specs. Logged In brightest day, in darkest night, no evil shall escape my sight.... Fett101 VIP Posts: 1,581 Kudos: 85 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #13 on: 9 May 2003, 10:27 » Sisters PC has ISA slots and XP. Badda bing, badda boom. Logged Visit the FGMMA! Faust Member Posts: 1,223 Kudos: 0 You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. « Reply #14 on: 9 May 2003, 12:37 » quote: My friend Sam and I both bought brand new sound blaster sound cards about 6 months ago and assumed we would have no problem getting them to work with Mandrake 9.0. Those wouldnt be creative soundcards would they? I had some trouble in Red Hat 8 with those. Kept detecting my onboard sound as "primary" and not setting up the Soundblaster Live properly. Disabling onboard sound at the BIOS and then redetecting sound cards works, and if that doesnt have you tried rmmod [currentsoundcarddriver], modprobe emu10k1? Sometimes they wont shove in the emu10k1 drivers even if they detect they card. :rolleyes: edit : Which also raises the point that Linux has native support for the Free creative emu10k1 module wheras Windows requires the use of a driver CD. Speaking of which how much Windows hardware requires a driver CD/floppy? Far more than Linux i'm willing to guess. (especially for network cards. ) [ May 09, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ] Logged Yesterday it worked Today it is not working Windows is like that -- http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/error-haiku.html Print Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 6 Go Up « previous next » Stop Microsoft » Forum » Operating Systems » Linux and UNIX » You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks.
Share or donate

Author Topic: You have to admit that, from a hardware support point of view, Linux still sucks. (Read 1048 times)

Share or donate