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Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by Panos:
Whatever makes you happy man! If being flamed makes you feel good then go ahead, this a democratic site after all.

Oh yeah, it was MADE ON A MAC too     :D          
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Actually I don't get flamed all that much. Alot of the Linux breathen like void main, Calum, MOR, etc. actually have some common sense and can debate without flaming.

The flames generally come from Mac zealots(with the exception of psyjax). A little flaming doesn't bother me, so I'm not going to run and hide from any of you. ;P

BTW, this site was made on a Mac but it bares a resembalence to Microsofts' site. The Mac can copy web designs and web layouts(You can do the very same stuff on a PC), big deal  :rolleyes: . I bet you I could have a Microsoft lookalike site built and up in less than a half an hour using Frontpage(which is by no means the best web creator program out there).
How ironic is that?

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

Pantso:

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:


Actually I don't get flamed all that much. Alot of the Linux breathen like void main, Calum, MOR, etc. actually have some common sense and can debate without flaming.

The flames generally come from Mac zealots(with the exception of psyjax). A little flaming doesn't bother me, so I'm not going to run and hide from any of you. ;P

BTW, this site was made on a Mac but it bares a resembalence to Microsofts' site. The Mac can copy web designs and web layouts(You can do the very same stuff on a PC), big deal   :rolleyes:  . I bet you I could have a Microsoft lookalike site built and up in less than a half an hour using Frontpage(which is by no means the best web creator program out there).
How ironic is that?

[ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
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Firstly, I'm not a Mac Zealot. I just happen to enjoy the hell out of mine. You could try using one, it won't bite   ;)  

Secondly, I totally agree with your judgement on those specific board members you mentioned above as well as for the majority of the MES boards members. They must have some common sense since they don't use Windows    Furthermore, I too can debate without flaming. After all, I didn't flame you, did I?

Thirdly, who told you to run and hide from me? who am I anyway to start chasing you around the boards? I'm not some weirdo you know   :D  

Fourthly, the resemblance this site bears to M$s one is by all means intentional, so why did you bring that up. When I said that this site was made on a Mac, I commented as to the Webmaster's choice in using a Mac and nothing more.

Uhm, it's not ironic at all (referring to your last sentence) with the strict definition of the word irony. Of course you can, but why bother to mention that?

Anyway, to sum it up, I don't have anything against you personally. I just find it a bit odd for a pro-Windows user to have fun posting in the fuckmicrosoft forums. But then again it could be just me....

voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
If Unix/Linux are the only thing x86 systems are good for then why do Windows PCs hold so much more marketshare than Unix, Linux and Mac boxes combined? Maybe because Unix and Linux are too difficult for most consumers and don't have support for popular apps and games, Macs are controlled by a control all egotistical freak like Steve Jobs and they have almost no gaming support whatsoever(Yeah, alot of people want a computer to work and play...not just work ;P).

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Actually you were doing pretty good up until this. I submit to you that the *only* reasons Microsoft has the market share that they currently hold is due to *massive* marketing and strongarm tactics. Joe User goes to best buy to buy a computer, or he reads a Dell/Gateway add in the newspaper/magazine. Does Joe have a choice of what operating system he gets? For that matter, what percentage of Joe Users even *know* that there is any other operating system, or even what an operating system is? Sure some might give you a choice of operating systems. Let's see, would you like WindowsME or WindowsXP with that?

Again, Microsoft will not let any desktop/laptop leave Joe Users store without a Microsoft operating system license. Pretty easy to keep market share when this is the case. And it's pretty easy to understand why application developers would want to write apps for the OS that has that 97% market share.  But that's ok, I'm happy building my own machine even though it costs me more to do so. I end up with a better machine and the money I save by putting better free/Free software makes up the difference and then some).

You always bring this market share issue up and always have your facts incorrect on this particular issue. It is probably the biggest thing you have wrong. I actually agree with at least half of what you say lately, except for your incorrect beliefs about how M$ got to the market share they are at.

voidmain:
I can have an exact duplicate of Microsoft's site in one command:

$ wget -r http://www.microsoft.com/

That is, if I didn't have it blocked at my firewall.  

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by void main:


Actually you were doing pretty good up until this. I submit to you that the *only* reasons Microsoft has the market share that they currently hold is due to *massive* marketing and strongarm tactics. Joe User goes to best buy to buy a computer, or he reads a Dell/Gateway add in the newspaper/magazine. Does Joe have a choice of what operating system he gets? For that matter, what percentage of Joe Users even *know* that there is any other operating system, or even what an operating system is? Sure some might give you a choice of operating systems. Let's see, would you like WindowsME or WindowsXP with that?

Again, Microsoft will not let any desktop/laptop leave Joe Users store without a Microsoft operating system license. Pretty easy to keep market share when this is the case. And it's pretty easy to understand why application developers would want to write apps for the OS that has that 97% market share.  But that's ok, I'm happy building my own machine even though it costs me more to do so. I end up with a better machine and the money I save by putting better free/Free software makes up the difference and then some).

You always bring this market share issue up and always have your facts incorrect on this particular issue. It is probably the biggest thing you have wrong. I actually agree with at least half of what you say lately, except for your incorrect beliefs about how M$ got to the market share they are at.
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Well, Microsoft does have an OS monopoly going, I already know that....but the MS Operating Systems had to have been preferred in the beginning for OEM's to install them on every computer they sell. If people didn't like Windows in the beginning(and if most people didn't like Windows now) and the OEM's got nothing but complaints for pre-installing Windows I'm sure they wouldn't pre-install it on every machine.

The software had to have been something for it to gain market dominance in a course of a few years(Windows started to really take over since Win95).

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