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How Apple+Mac is better than Windows+Intel
Pantso:
quote:Actually you were doing pretty good up until this.
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Doing pretty good meaning?
quote:I submit to you that the *only* reasons Microsoft has the market share that they currently hold is due to *massive* marketing and strongarm tactics. Joe User goes to best buy to buy a computer, or he reads a Dell/Gateway add in the newspaper/magazine. Does Joe have a choice of what operating system he gets? For that matter, what percentage of Joe Users even *know* that there is any other operating system, or even what an operating system is? Sure some might give you a choice of operating systems. Let's see, would you like WindowsME or WindowsXP with that?
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Simplistic but true nonetheless....
quote:I actually agree with at least half of what you say lately, except for your incorrect beliefs about how M$ got to the market share they are at.
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Now that's an unpleasant surprise....
quote:I can have an exact duplicate of Microsoft's site in one command:
$ wget -r http://www.microsoft.com/
That is, if I didn't have it blocked at my firewall.
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If that makes you happy....
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
Well, Microsoft does have an OS monopoly going, I already know that....but the MS Operating Systems had to have been preferred in the beginning for OEM's to install them on every computer they sell. If people didn't like Windows in the beginning(and if most people didn't like Windows now) and the OEM's got nothing but complaints for pre-installing Windows I'm sure they wouldn't pre-install it on every machine.
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In the beginning (of PCs) there wasn't much of a choice. If you wanted an IBM or compatible you pretty much had to deal with Microsoft. They were pretty much the only game in town. Even IBM PC-DOS was written by Microsoft if I remember right. And when OS/2 came out it was just as good or better than Windows but Microsoft was a marketing machine and really took over the clone vendors with strongarm deals. The clones were a lot cheaper than IBM machines. IBM was not happy about clones thus leaving Microsoft as the only OS vendor to go on the clones.
quote:The software had to have been something for it to gain market dominance in a course of a few years(Windows started to really take over since Win95).
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And I suppose you don't remember the *huge* marketing campain they had for the launch of Win95? They even bought popular songs (wasn't it Beetles songs?) to promote the release. Mass marketing. How many OS/2 Warp ads did you see? How many desktop ads have you ever seen for Linux? Not one, as in *no* marketing. The only marketing I have seen for Linux is from IBM for mainframe systems.
The point is, it would be easier for Dell, in addition to selling PCs with Windows, to also sell naked PCs. Microsoft won't let them. Or do you not believe me when I make the statement that Microsoft won't let them?
hm_murdock:
::burps at Zombie::
I never flamed you... well I guess I kinda did after you said I was "full of shit"... oops! Didn't mean to sound bitter... oh, yeah I did.
Now, you keep asking why we insist that Macs are better and then throw benchmarks at us...
Better and faster are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I went from a 1.1GHz PIII to a 500MHz iMac G3 when I switched. Speed doesn't mean shit for 98% of the things that people do.
How many people REALLY need a 3GHz processor? Few. How many people really need more than a 300MHz processor? Few.
Our Power Macs and Powerbooks and iBooks and iMacs and all are BETTER. That's all there is too it. We have a better OS (it's always been better than Windows, even before OS X), better hardware designs, better industrial design, better software packages, better user experience, everything is superior to a Windows PC.
Compared with a Linux PC, we're pretty well even on stability.
Now, here's a question. Why do people like you insist on rankin' on people because of what damned hardware platform we choose? Why does it really matter to you? How does the fact that I have an Apple computer hurt you?
I don't go around telling people that since they have a PC that they're misguided, or stupid. I simply inform them of the shortcomings of Windows, then I help guide them away toward whatever they choose, be it installing Linux, buying a Mac, or even going farther and trying something really different (had one friend scour eBay and get a PPC upgraded Amiga).
Windows sucks for nearly everything, but ESPECIALLY for media production. Get over it. Even a crappy x86 CPU becomes a respectable piece of equipment running Linux.
BTW, my computer can kick your honor student's ass.
cocoamix:
Why do these threads always degenerate into processor pissing contests?
The main issue with me (and many others is not the hardware, but the OS[/i].
A VERY simple for instance, something that we all do occasionally, taking a screencap.
In this case, we'll look at a screencap of the lower left portion of your screen.
Windoze (all versions, AFAIK), hit "Print Screen" THEN go to an image editing app. Using the standard MSPaint, for instance, PASTE the clipboard, hitting the YES button when it tells you the clipboard contents are larger than the selected area. Use MSPaint to crop out the bits you don't want. Oh wait, you CAN'T crop using MSPaint. You're SOL.
Anyway, you're stuck with a full screen cap, using ONLY M$ supplied tools.
Finally, SAVE the screencap as a bitmap that is 3 Megs in size.
In OS X, hit command+shift+4. Using the crosshairs that pop up, drag around the area you want. Done. A PDF of your screen cap appears on your desktop.
It's total bass-ackwwrads Windoze bullshit that eats up all the time that your x86 processor supposedly save you.
THAT, people, is what is more important to me than running a Photoshop filter I hardly ever use 5 seconds faster, or a few extra FPS on a game I never play.
Oh, that, and NEVER having to deal with a Virus. :D
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by cocoamix:
Why do these threads always degenerate into processor pissing contests?
The main issue with me (and many others is not the hardware, but the OS[/i].
A VERY simple for instance, something that we all do occasionally, taking a screencap.
In this case, we'll look at a screencap of the lower left portion of your screen.
Windoze (all versions, AFAIK), hit "Print Screen" THEN go to an image editing app. Using the standard MSPaint, for instance, PASTE the clipboard, hitting the YES button when it tells you the clipboard contents are larger than the selected area. Use MSPaint to crop out the bits you don't want. Oh wait, you CAN'T crop using MSPaint. You're SOL.
Anyway, you're stuck with a full screen cap, using ONLY M$ supplied tools.
Finally, SAVE the screencap as a bitmap that is 3 Megs in size.
In OS X, hit command+shift+4. Using the crosshairs that pop up, drag around the area you want. Done. A PDF of your screen cap appears on your desktop.
It's total bass-ackwwrads Windoze bullshit that eats up all the time that your x86 processor supposedly save you.
THAT, people, is what is more important to me than running a Photoshop filter I hardly ever use 5 seconds faster, or a few extra FPS on a game I never play.
Oh, that, and NEVER having to deal with a Virus. :D
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Ehh? I don't know who in thier right mind would use MSPaint over Photoshop, PaintShop Pro, etc. In MSPaint you don't have to save files as Bitmaps. It is perfectly capable of saving as gif, jpg, tif, png, jpe, jfif, jpeg, tiff as well as dib and bmp.
Your right about MSPaint not having a good cropping tool, but oh well, thats life. It isn't like people don't choose to use Photoshop on thier Macs over whatever crap paint program that Apple gives you(if any). Windows users have Photoshop too, so it is the same case scenerio in both boats. :rolleyes:
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